... because it has already gone through the grubby hands of the evil marketroids.
It's as simple as that. It's called propaganda, and every (non-Open Sourceish) company does it. Do you really think that the Pentium III's are really that cool? Do you think that Oracle 8 is that big a deal? Shit happens.
Nonetheless, MacOS X _is_ really bloody cool.
Post scriptum: Steve Jobs used to be a phreak. That should say something about his ethics...
YOU FUCKING RETARD LOSER!!! REAL hackers do NOT call themselves 'h4x0rs', much less '3l33t'!!!!! It's because of those idiots and people like YOU that Micro$loth rules the FUCKING WORLD!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!!
OOOOOOOOOOOOOH MAN. I can't believe this crap. Is it so hard to understand that God is just a trip, the result of WAY too many of the wrong chemicals in your brain? Dammit. I don't want to believe in a floating abstraction.
God doesn't exist, and you should know that damn well by now. Your refuse to think rationally, instead insisting on believing with my heart ( a pretty dumb organ - the equivalent of a car with an onboard computer of thinking with its gas tank) is only to cover up the fact that you deep inside also know that God can't possibly exist. If the Revelation is personally truthful to you, it only means that you're so stupid you can't look at yourself reasonally and understand that the fact that nothing will be able to shake your faith in it is nothing but a poorly disguised form of childish denial. Grow up.
Peace,
-- Reverend Jerry Falwell
"Hey man! Let's grab the car, go pick up some chicks and go back to my place!" - Don't Ask Don't Teletubby Tinky-Winky
MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN, I should have seen this coming.
on
Running To The Website
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Hmm, nothing like the smell of fresh flame in the morning.
Since my previous comment has generated somewhat more than the quantity of replies I had aimed for when I wrote it, I will do myself a favor and rectify it.
* stdisclaimer.h: "I speak for no one but myself." This should be included with every message posted on/., and I'm considering adding it to my sig block right away. As for connotations of "people", "those in the/. community", etc., it was a broad generalization gathered from the extensive reading of hundreds of replies to Mr. Katz's postings on the site. I'm sorry if it doesn't apply to _you_ specifically, and if you genuinely believe that it means I don't consider you 'people' if you like Katz's work, I suggest you lighten up.
* On the "live and let live" thing, I agree completely. I was just trying to take this chance to point out to the author that there might be some point to the endless flamings that usually followed his postings.
* "Pinko Femmo Lesbians": No, I'm not usually a stereotypist (sp?) kind of person. It just seemed from the writings of some of the irate posters that the (somewhat) general position was that.
* On the subject of what it means to be a "radical materialist atheist": my definition of materialist is a person who will try to see the world for what it really is, instead of blaming it on a floating abstraction. Not a cold heartless bastard who'll do anything for the money. I know plenty of materialist people, and very few of them actually have money as their ultimate goal in life - unlike many so-called spiritual leaders out there. (NO, I'm NOT referring to Katz, I know VERY LITTLE/NOTHING about his philosophy, try and don't take this the wrong way.)
* pohl - "Life, the universe, and everything is an awe-inspiring subject of thought -- and that's all that spirituality really is. There's nothing about being godless that prevents one from experiencing the mental state that some call "spirituality". The relationships between matter, energy, and information alone do it for me -- as do minds, memes, and media. Or models & mathematics. The quantum universe and the macroscopic. Endless meta-levels of abstraction. Transcending the holism/dualism dichotomy, badump-crash." You put it very well. I subscribe to something like that PoV myself.
* I _admire_ Mr. Katz. I admire anyone who can make it to the bookshelves, let alone the Top 100, by sheer work quality, instead of relying on worn-off marketing gimmicks. I admire anyone who can pull off coming up with an original piece of work in a time when everything that could be said about the subject seemed to have already been said (and either worshipped like the Word of God or disregarded as drivel). I admire a person who can write a 3-page-long story for/., get two hundred comments, many of them complaining about his verbosity, and reply to those in a 5-page-long text. This comment was IN NO WAY meant to offend him. It was all I could do in the way of constructive cricitism at the time, and considering that I had only five minutes to go through/. before lunch break was over, I think I did pretty well.
Conclusion: Yes, this was mostly my fault. I apologize - to both Mr. Katz, for any further offense he might have taken from it, and to the/. community in general, for accidentally misrepresenting you. But anyone who's not a complete novice here should know better than to read too deeply into most of what's posted here.
Peace,
-- Kaufmann, Going Out to Buy "Running to the Mountain" rnedal@olimpo.com.br #include "stdisclaimer.h" (ignore this last line)
That's why people don't like you (afaics). You're much too verbose. You're also into spiritual stuff, and many of those in the/. community are radical materialist atheists.
Thank god, someone who actually is prepared to say it. I think all the people who slate Microsoft are just a bunch of fashion victims. Most of you are just jealous of Microsoft's success.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, glad you have a sense of humour.
Oh, you weren't joking. Okay. Then you're an idiot.
"Lick a rock follow fashion, drop of a conka tree"
What?
Kick em, while they're down. Who's down again?
Can't any of you be constructive and do something good rather than critisize people all the time.........
Well, in theory I can speak only for myself, but I believe that many, if not most, of/.'ers, are hackers - 'real' hackers. Now we have a tendency to be rather constructive people - as ESR said it, we'd rather build than destroy.
Some of the countless reasons why we hate Micro$oft are: * it practices evil marketing techniques; * it's not Open Source; * their code is ridiculously losing; * their employees are known to be fornicating marketroids; * their software is impossible to properly interface; * they've managed to make the overwhelming majority of computer users work on their ripped-off system, even though it's Not Good, it crashes often and it usually becomes the expert's job to fix the frustrated lusers' computers - until it crashes again.
If this sounds harsh it's because I'm pissed and England have just lost to France.....
Well, I'm too tired to make my point completely, but nonetheless I think you can have an idea. Peace, --
Slashdot Mirror
... because it has already gone through the grubby hands of the evil marketroids.
It's as simple as that. It's called propaganda, and every (non-Open Sourceish) company does it. Do you really think that the Pentium III's are really that cool? Do you think that Oracle 8 is that big a deal? Shit happens.
Nonetheless, MacOS X _is_ really bloody cool.
Post scriptum: Steve Jobs used to be a phreak. That should say something about his ethics...
Peace,
Kaufmann
Yeah, I remember those lawyers... they were the ones who bribed the Ethics teacher to graduate from college.
Okay, you asked for it.
;)
[flame]
YOU FUCKING RETARD LOSER!!! REAL hackers do NOT call themselves 'h4x0rs', much less '3l33t'!!!!! It's because of those idiots and people like YOU that Micro$loth rules the FUCKING WORLD!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!!
[massacre weapon="old_pdp11_box_to_the_head"]
[/flame]
Satisfied?
Peace,
Rafael "No epithet" Kaufmann
You've obviously never been to the DOS Shell in Windoze 95/98.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOH MAN. I can't believe this crap. Is it so hard to understand that God is just a trip, the result of WAY too many of the wrong chemicals in your brain? Dammit. I don't want to believe in a floating abstraction.
God doesn't exist, and you should know that damn well by now. Your refuse to think rationally, instead insisting on believing with my heart ( a pretty dumb organ - the equivalent of a car with an onboard computer of thinking with its gas tank) is only to cover up the fact that you deep inside also know that God can't possibly exist. If the Revelation is personally truthful to you, it only means that you're so stupid you can't look at yourself reasonally and understand that the fact that nothing will be able to shake your faith in it is nothing but a poorly disguised form of childish denial. Grow up.
Peace,
--
Reverend Jerry Falwell
"Hey man! Let's grab the car, go pick up some chicks and go back to my place!"
- Don't Ask Don't Teletubby Tinky-Winky
Hmm, nothing like the smell of fresh flame in the morning.
/., and I'm considering adding it to my sig block right away. As for connotations of "people", "those in the /. community", etc., it was a broad generalization gathered from the extensive reading of hundreds of replies to Mr. Katz's postings on the site. I'm sorry if it doesn't apply to _you_ specifically, and if you genuinely believe that it means I don't consider you 'people' if you like Katz's work, I suggest you lighten up.
/., get two hundred comments, many of them complaining about his verbosity, and reply to those in a 5-page-long text. This comment was IN NO WAY meant to offend him. It was all I could do in the way of constructive cricitism at the time, and considering that I had only five minutes to go through /. before lunch break was over, I think I did pretty well.
/. community in general, for accidentally misrepresenting you. But anyone who's not a complete novice here should know better than to read too deeply into most of what's posted here.
Since my previous comment has generated somewhat more than the quantity of replies I had aimed for when I wrote it, I will do myself a favor and rectify it.
* stdisclaimer.h: "I speak for no one but myself." This should be included with every message posted on
* On the "live and let live" thing, I agree completely. I was just trying to take this chance to point out to the author that there might be some point to the endless flamings that usually followed his postings.
* "Pinko Femmo Lesbians": No, I'm not usually a stereotypist (sp?) kind of person. It just seemed from the writings of some of the irate posters that the (somewhat) general position was that.
* On the subject of what it means to be a "radical materialist atheist": my definition of materialist is a person who will try to see the world for what it really is, instead of blaming it on a floating abstraction. Not a cold heartless bastard who'll do anything for the money. I know plenty of materialist people, and very few of them actually have money as their ultimate goal in life - unlike many so-called spiritual leaders out there. (NO, I'm NOT referring to Katz, I know VERY LITTLE/NOTHING about his philosophy, try and don't take this the wrong way.)
* pohl - "Life, the universe, and everything is an awe-inspiring subject of thought -- and that's all that spirituality really is. There's nothing about being godless that prevents one from experiencing the mental state that some call "spirituality". The relationships between matter, energy, and information alone do it for me -- as do minds, memes, and media. Or models & mathematics. The quantum universe and the macroscopic. Endless meta-levels of abstraction. Transcending the holism/dualism dichotomy, badump-crash." You put it very well. I subscribe to something like that PoV myself.
* I _admire_ Mr. Katz. I admire anyone who can make it to the bookshelves, let alone the Top 100, by sheer work quality, instead of relying on worn-off marketing gimmicks. I admire anyone who can pull off coming up with an original piece of work in a time when everything that could be said about the subject seemed to have already been said (and either worshipped like the Word of God or disregarded as drivel). I admire a person who can write a 3-page-long story for
Conclusion: Yes, this was mostly my fault. I apologize - to both Mr. Katz, for any further offense he might have taken from it, and to the
Peace,
--
Kaufmann, Going Out to Buy "Running to the Mountain"
rnedal@olimpo.com.br
#include "stdisclaimer.h"
(ignore this last line)
That's why people don't like you (afaics). You're much too verbose. You're also into spiritual stuff, and many of those in the /. community are radical materialist atheists.
Peace,
Guru Kaufmann
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, glad you have a sense of humour.
Oh, you weren't joking. Okay. Then you're an idiot.
"Lick a rock follow fashion, drop of a conka tree"
What?
Kick em, while they're down. Who's down again?
Can't any of you be constructive and do something good rather than critisize people all the time.........
Well, in theory I can speak only for myself, but I believe that many, if not most, of /.'ers, are hackers - 'real' hackers. Now we have a tendency to be rather constructive people - as ESR said it, we'd rather build than destroy.
Some of the countless reasons why we hate Micro$oft are: * it practices evil marketing techniques; * it's not Open Source; * their code is ridiculously losing; * their employees are known to be fornicating marketroids; * their software is impossible to properly interface; * they've managed to make the overwhelming majority of computer users work on their ripped-off system, even though it's Not Good, it crashes often and it usually becomes the expert's job to fix the frustrated lusers' computers - until it crashes again.
If this sounds harsh it's because I'm pissed and England have just lost to France.....
Well, I'm too tired to make my point completely, but nonetheless I think you can have an idea. Peace, --