No, they would just choose to skip supporting that OS because they aren't going to open source the code. Or do you live in some fantasy world that exists outside of the real world?
Great, but this whole thread was about what the phone manufacturers would have done if the Linux kernel was GPLv3. So once again, what is the relevance of the examples when they have nothing to do with an OS using a GPLv3 kernel?
There is no "you lose your rights forever" clause in the GPLv2 license.
What they were stating is that in order to regain your GPLv2 license you have to get approval from ALL copyright holders and in the case of something like the Linux kernel it would be nigh impossible to get this. Hence, while you are technically true, at the same time if you can't get approval from all license holders it is effectively the same thing.
So what if it's free. How does that make it above criticism? That's got to be one of the lamest excuses for trying to stifle criticism of something. If you're just going to whine and complain when your users complain about stuff, then why even release something for users anyway? Why not just keep it as some internal tool so the devs can circle jerk in peace? That seems to be what Mozilla wants now.
and add unit tests for the purpose of validating your code (instead of finding something wrong with it, which once upon a time was the purpose of tests).
Anyone doing unit tests properly is both validating their code and finding something wrong with it. If you're tests don't do both, you're doing it wrong.
So I'm supposed to incur a $300 fee for breaking my contract to save less than 10 dollars a month which over the life of my new contract is going to save me less than the price of breaking my contract? Brilliant logic!
Don't worry citizen! In unrelated news, the Ministry of Plenty has released a statement that they will be increasing the chocolate ration to 15g tomorrow.
Oh noes! My entire life is going to fall apart because an AC on slashdot has called me a jackass. Oh wait, I already know I'm a jackass and don't really care.
My point is that any evidence I can give can easily be faked. Nothing I can do or say is 100% irrefutable evidence. Hell I could be posting from my friend's computer that is running Slackware instead of Windows and we could be doing nothing but laughing at tukang. He's never going to know if that's true or not despite what I can say to the contrary.
You misunderstand. I don't give a flying fuck if tukang does or doesn't believe me or does or doesn't attack my computer because my point is that if the original poster wants to prove his laughable statement that he has my information to do so. Most likely he won't because he's wrong and is most likely a chickenshit the same as tukang.
But that doesn't prove anything. Could I not just as easily be at someone else's computer doing that? Once again, nothing I can do or so is going to be something irrefutable so he's either going to have to man up and just prove himself or slink off like a chickenshit. I honestly don't give a flying fuck.
Except that anything I post you will attempt to claim doesn't prove anything and you'll slink away like a chickenshit. You either are going to have to believe me or not. I don't really care.
Are you still running Windows 98 or a pre SP version of XP?
automatically running code embedded in email and documents,
Which can be made to work in Linux as well.
automatically running code off the web (activex) and so on.
You don't automatically run ActiveX code. IE will always flag you and ask if you want to run it unless you've set your security settings to the bare minimum. Which would be dumb to do.
Good, then they can stop taking from the OSS community
Because the BSDs aren't part of the OSS community? Since when?
No, they would just choose to skip supporting that OS because they aren't going to open source the code. Or do you live in some fantasy world that exists outside of the real world?
Great, but this whole thread was about what the phone manufacturers would have done if the Linux kernel was GPLv3. So once again, what is the relevance of the examples when they have nothing to do with an OS using a GPLv3 kernel?
Impossible? No, look at the FreeRunner. (Or to a lesser extent, the N900.)
Since when did the FreeRunner or N900 use an OS and kernel under the GPLv3?
There is no "you lose your rights forever" clause in the GPLv2 license.
What they were stating is that in order to regain your GPLv2 license you have to get approval from ALL copyright holders and in the case of something like the Linux kernel it would be nigh impossible to get this. Hence, while you are technically true, at the same time if you can't get approval from all license holders it is effectively the same thing.
Here you go.
Great but I believe this story is nearly 3 months old by now. Do you guys even bother to do even the simplest of dupe checks?
Or the newest Packt book: 'Programming with Python 2.5'.
So what if it's free. How does that make it above criticism? That's got to be one of the lamest excuses for trying to stifle criticism of something. If you're just going to whine and complain when your users complain about stuff, then why even release something for users anyway? Why not just keep it as some internal tool so the devs can circle jerk in peace? That seems to be what Mozilla wants now.
and add unit tests for the purpose of validating your code (instead of finding something wrong with it, which once upon a time was the purpose of tests).
Anyone doing unit tests properly is both validating their code and finding something wrong with it. If you're tests don't do both, you're doing it wrong.
No one said they scrapped it right this very second.
Yes, but the cost of the new phone, etc is in the end usually going to end up once again obliterating the savings.
So I'm supposed to incur a $300 fee for breaking my contract to save less than 10 dollars a month which over the life of my new contract is going to save me less than the price of breaking my contract? Brilliant logic!
I'm not afraid of little script kiddy boy. If someone wants to try their hand, they are more than welcome.
Don't worry citizen! In unrelated news, the Ministry of Plenty has released a statement that they will be increasing the chocolate ration to 15g tomorrow.
Oh noes! My entire life is going to fall apart because an AC on slashdot has called me a jackass. Oh wait, I already know I'm a jackass and don't really care.
My point is that any evidence I can give can easily be faked. Nothing I can do or say is 100% irrefutable evidence. Hell I could be posting from my friend's computer that is running Slackware instead of Windows and we could be doing nothing but laughing at tukang. He's never going to know if that's true or not despite what I can say to the contrary.
You misunderstand. I don't give a flying fuck if tukang does or doesn't believe me or does or doesn't attack my computer because my point is that if the original poster wants to prove his laughable statement that he has my information to do so. Most likely he won't because he's wrong and is most likely a chickenshit the same as tukang.
But that doesn't prove anything. Could I not just as easily be at someone else's computer doing that? Once again, nothing I can do or so is going to be something irrefutable so he's either going to have to man up and just prove himself or slink off like a chickenshit. I honestly don't give a flying fuck.
Except that anything I post you will attempt to claim doesn't prove anything and you'll slink away like a chickenshit. You either are going to have to believe me or not. I don't really care.
Why is that surprising? This just in: someone's home computer will be using an IP within a residential block of their ISP! STOP THE PRESSES!!!
Running everything with admin privileges
Are you still running Windows 98 or a pre SP version of XP?
automatically running code embedded in email and documents,
Which can be made to work in Linux as well.
automatically running code off the web (activex) and so on.
You don't automatically run ActiveX code. IE will always flag you and ask if you want to run it unless you've set your security settings to the bare minimum. Which would be dumb to do.
Then prove it. The IP of my Windows machine at home is 66.25.165.182. Come on, little script kiddy, show me your stuff.
and I don't visit sites that have a zillion JS calls to different sites.
Posting on Slashdot about not going to JavaScript heavy sites. *head asplodes*
You do realize those kids can already do that now with a book encyclopedia, right? This does nothing to stop that.