It got lucky on big iron in the 90's and did/does a terrific job with java. But it's feet are full of bullet holes where it shot/shoots itself in the foot.
There is a massive exodus of developers here in Dallas to Eclipse, and it is all based on attraction. Same with the open source projects I work with. Netbeans can do what it wants, but the most likely outcome is to be ignored to death.
In the same vein, SWT rocks, and I say that being a swing enthusiast.
People vote with their feet, and that is the only vote that counts. There will always be laggards and people going in the other direction, but the traffic is going in the direction of the better mousetrap, in this instance.
I only have 3000 miles on my new Civic hybrid, but it looks like 42mpg w air conditioning on full blast, 45 with no AC. It is interesting that city and highway mileage has been almost the same for me.
I could probably get the same mileage, though, by just using an underpowered civic and driving at ridiculously slow acceleration, and turning off my engine at lights.
It's a wonderful toy, but maybe not practical if money is your only concern.
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I have been attached at the hip to all things microsoft for 5 years. Access, VB, sql server, etc etc. And accomplished a bunch of ad hoc work.
With MUCH difficulty, I have learned enough java to write servlets and database calls and server side java can now do much of what I would do in ms land with the power of java running on opensource servers with free database software on a cheap monthly host.
I will agree that down and dirty wins the business contest. But it also is really really stupid, just like all the management decisions that make down and dirty programming the rule of the day.
This battle is far from over. If you want the definition of easy, try php, not ASP. And java is actually quite easy, once you get past all the inane classpath issues.
While the corporate monkeys are all addicting themselves to mindless tech, there are a bunch of us learning how to do real work with slightly more clunky technology and actually enjoying it. It is going to be very fun to watch the slug fest in the following years. I have my own personal ideas of who might win the war, and it won't be the mindless ones.
It's not Microsoft I hate, or even Billy G. It's just the needle in my arm, and that long unweildy tube with Microsoft on the other end. Dependency always breeds it's own resentment. Provider always seems to become predator.
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Sun doesn't get where the market is heading.
It got lucky on big iron in the 90's and did/does a terrific job with java. But it's feet are full of bullet holes where it shot/shoots itself in the foot.
There is a massive exodus of developers here in Dallas to Eclipse, and it is all based on attraction. Same with the open source projects I work with. Netbeans can do what it wants, but the most likely outcome is to be ignored to death.
In the same vein, SWT rocks, and I say that being a swing enthusiast.
People vote with their feet, and that is the only vote that counts. There will always be laggards and people going in the other direction, but the traffic is going in the direction of the better mousetrap, in this instance.
I only have 3000 miles on my new Civic hybrid, but it looks like 42mpg w air conditioning on full blast, 45 with no AC. It is interesting that city and highway mileage has been almost the same for me.
I could probably get the same mileage, though, by just using an underpowered civic and driving at ridiculously slow acceleration, and turning off my engine at lights.
It's a wonderful toy, but maybe not practical if money is your only concern.
I have been attached at the hip to all things microsoft for 5 years. Access, VB, sql server, etc etc. And accomplished a bunch of ad hoc work.
With MUCH difficulty, I have learned enough java to write servlets and database calls and server side java can now do much of what I would do in ms land with the power of java running on opensource servers with free database software on a cheap monthly host.
I will agree that down and dirty wins the business contest. But it also is really really stupid, just like all the management decisions that make down and dirty programming the rule of the day.
This battle is far from over. If you want the definition of easy, try php, not ASP. And java is actually quite easy, once you get past all the inane classpath issues.
While the corporate monkeys are all addicting themselves to mindless tech, there are a bunch of us learning how to do real work with slightly more clunky technology and actually enjoying it. It is going to be very fun to watch the slug fest in the following years. I have my own personal ideas of who might win the war, and it won't be the mindless ones.
It's not Microsoft I hate, or even Billy G. It's just the needle in my arm, and that long unweildy tube with Microsoft on the other end. Dependency always breeds it's own resentment. Provider always seems to become predator.