The "lost sales" numbers companies claim often are based on 100% of people buying the more expensive real product (which most of us would agree is a completely bogus number).
And all the world bankers are laughing at all the fools. Who are all the fools? Anyone not a world banker.
"Trust and you will be trusted", said the liar to the fool.
This is the result of all the secrecy. Truth is where? The fallacy of tyrannical governments lies in the hidden truths. How does one discern the truth from fiction. Some would say to wipe the slate clean, from top to bottom, with clean water each and every rinse. Others would say to change the system, you must work from within, within a snake-pit of vipers. I, on the other hand, believe that the solution lies at a higher level than which the problem was created. This is the sentiment of A. Einstein.
No military force has ever walked away from Afghanistan as a winner.Not Alexander the Great, not the British Empire, not Russia nor will the U.S.. The only winners are those that just walk away.
According to the dictates of poetic justice we should help them kick out the current population of Arizona, provide them with enough firepower to hold off the remaining "three corners" states, and talk about how wonderful it is to have an early-80's style South African "democracy" in the middle of such a desolate cultural wasteland.
I don't really see a downside. For me. Way over here.
Why go anywhere off-planet in the first place? With people, that is?
Is it just to say that we did it? Well, that's nice and all, and you're free to start collecting donations, but I'd rather not have myself and all my descendants for 30 years be paying the bills.
Is it to start some kind of viable off-planet existence? That actually makes sense to me, but in that case maybe we should go ahead and terraform the planet we intend to live on FIRST, and then start sending people to live on it. Just about all the research needed for this would be done on the ground, where it is a heck of a lot cheaper.
Is it to explore the solar system? Well, that is certainly done a lot cheaper with probes. Unhappy that we just have two of them stuck on one part of mars? Well, then go ahead and launch 50 of them, or build ones with wings or whatever. Any approach you take will be far cheaper if you leave out the people.
Calling somebody a luddite for not wanting to spend billions of dollars on orbiting stations is kind of like calling somebody a luddite for not owning their own learjet. It has nothing to do with not finding such things interesting or without value - they just do not have value proportionate to their cost.
When a place gets crowded enough to require ID's, social collapse is not far away. It is time to go elsewhere. The best thing about space travel is that it made it possible to go elsewhere. - RAH
"If you want a preview of what living off planet would be like, build..."
The technology is there, and has been there for decades. However, it will take a team effort, TEAM PLANET EARTH. Traveling to Mars or anywhere else, other than the Moon is nothing more than "a pig in a poke", A scam, a fool's errand. If you want to go on a trip you need several things before you go. 1. A place to depart from and to return. 2. You need to bring all the supplies you can possibly need. There are no motels, no McDonalds, no BP gas stations (yeah). This isn't 1492 nor is it 1849. 3. Nobody gets it right the first time, except perhaps N. Tesla. Practice, practice, practice. Make sure everything works, is repairable, can be upgraded, has backups, has backups, has backups. 4. Now for the crazy part, people. You cannot just send scientists and engineers, you need the ditch diggers, garbage men, plumbers and electricians, nurses and doctors, etc, etc, et al. A very large human presence is needed in near Earth space before you start to populate anywhere else. 5. Think up something that you would want in space.
Step into the future, now!
Yes, people live in nuclear submarines, often for months at a time. Then the submarine comes back to port, takes on fresh supplies and fuel, undergoes any necessary repairs and maintenance, and everyone gets off the boat for a while and enjoys some shore leave. It's the regular visits back to "Earth" that keep the crew alive, healthy, and sane -- and those visits would not be possible for people living at the bottom of some other gravity well.
Wasn't Barrack Obama's right to keep his Blackberry after he became President questioned because the server was hosted in Waterloo Ontario, at Blackberry's headquarters in Canada ?
No, it's because there are records retention requirements in government. Remember Sarah Palin and her personal email account? Same thing goes, here.
Remember Nixon and his 18 minutes of audio tape? Sheesh.
Maybe the people would form a stable government, and I quite agree that they should be given the best opportunity to do so. There's no reason, though, to believe that US support is the only thing keeping most of the country in the dark ages. There are plenty of African countries that are at least as fucked up as Saudi Arabia without US sponsorship.
The people would just re-initiate their age-old tribal warring until one group comes out on top. Then we'll have Saudi Arabia v2.0.
"If we are wise, we must leave this country to its people, whose dislike for us is increasing," said Prince Turki, advising Saudi officials to escape with their families.'
Then we can move to America, someplace hot, like Arizona.
while I will grant you that the government has its issues - I will say that the UAE does take security pretty serious and is probably one of the safest Middle Eastern (maybe the safest) countries for westerners. Part of the security is no doubt due to the intense control and monitoring of its citizens and visitors. I won't make a call whether its good or bad just an observation from someone who has spent a few months there.
Is it safe for women subjected to honor killings? Draconian methods are always correct for the draconian mindset.
If you want a preview of what living off planet would be like, build yourself a water-tight metal cocoon, lock yourself inside, have it dropped to the bottom of the ocean, and live inside it for the rest of your life..
I'm surprised that they would be using ammonia coolants, rather than something more exotic and less toxic.
Less toxic? Ammonia, R-12, R-134a, etc are un-breathable. The least toxic is water, unless you drown in it. How about...
Something a little more high tech?
Well of course you wouldn't leave without them, Mr. Human-Cyborg.
That said, I agree fully. There are certain people in this world who, given a problem and some small versatile components, can fashion a solution. I don't mean simply the ones titled "engineer"; it's more of a personality trait. Duct tape, jumper cables, a good pocketknife, plastic sheeting, and a skein of rope can solve most everyday problems, and many that aren't so everyday.
For a while, I carried a small coil of Romex 3-conductor wire in my trunk. I don't know how it got there, but when a screw fell out of my car door's latch 150 miles from home, it was nice to have materials to make a makeshift replacement. Just 2 inches of one of the conductor, folded in half, and threaded into the hole. The plastic insulation held as threads, and I had a working screw.
...or better yet, carry AAA Plus, it's only $97 per year. For the ISS, I would go with SSS (Space Station Society) Plus because you get 4 free tows to a higher orbit each year.
They should develop artificial gravity. That way their absorption chillers won't need pumps.
Much simpler.
This sounds like a production manager. Failure to perform periodic preventative maintenance carries a cost. Reactive maintenance = Crisis management, sufficient for the short term, sucks for the long term.
Yup - would they even need cooling if it weren't for the people?
Sounds like the right mentality to go to Mars/ Asteroids/ or anywhere else off this planet. How many Luddite flat-landers does it take to screw in a light bulb?
The operative words being - to good use -. When bankers take peoples houses, when industries put people on the street for more profit overseas human capital sounds like slavery. China and India seem to have cornered the market on that account. When people can just be thrown away like so much trash, there appears to be a fundamental flaw in the business model. Gold is not the only precious metal. Any metal that has an intrinsic value in industry is a candidate. Money today is used for achieving power and wealth far beyond the necessities of life. The persons wielding this power wield it for their own benefit regardless of who gets hurt or whether it benefits all.
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Trust me, you're far more likely to get away with not having an ID in the hills of Kentucky than boarding a spacecraft...
You ain't from around here, are you boy?
The "lost sales" numbers companies claim often are based on 100% of people buying the more expensive real product (which most of us would agree is a completely bogus number).
And all the world bankers are laughing at all the fools.
Who are all the fools? Anyone not a world banker.
"Trust and you will be trusted", said the liar to the fool.
This is the result of all the secrecy. Truth is where? The fallacy of tyrannical governments lies in the hidden truths. How does one discern the truth from fiction. Some would say to wipe the slate clean, from top to bottom, with clean water each and every rinse. Others would say to change the system, you must work from within, within a snake-pit of vipers.
I, on the other hand, believe that the solution lies at a higher level than which the problem was created. This is the sentiment of A. Einstein.
No military force has ever walked away from Afghanistan as a winner.Not Alexander the Great, not the British Empire, not Russia nor will the U.S.. The only winners are those that just walk away.
We have yet to hear from Schrödinger's cat on this.
me..........whoosh..........ow
Why limit sex strictly to intercourse? Surely there are Slashdotters out there who masturbate frequently.
You mean the fap factor?
No question marks in this one
1) Kill Boar 2) Irradiate it 3) Sell to German government 4) PROFIT!!!!111!!!
Bacon that cooks itself, what's better than that, other than bacon with ketchup.
According to the dictates of poetic justice we should help them kick out the current population of Arizona, provide them with enough firepower to hold off the remaining "three corners" states, and talk about how wonderful it is to have an early-80's style South African "democracy" in the middle of such a desolate cultural wasteland. I don't really see a downside. For me. Way over here.
The free Islamic state of Arizona. I love it.
Why go anywhere off-planet in the first place? With people, that is?
Is it just to say that we did it? Well, that's nice and all, and you're free to start collecting donations, but I'd rather not have myself and all my descendants for 30 years be paying the bills.
Is it to start some kind of viable off-planet existence? That actually makes sense to me, but in that case maybe we should go ahead and terraform the planet we intend to live on FIRST, and then start sending people to live on it. Just about all the research needed for this would be done on the ground, where it is a heck of a lot cheaper.
Is it to explore the solar system? Well, that is certainly done a lot cheaper with probes. Unhappy that we just have two of them stuck on one part of mars? Well, then go ahead and launch 50 of them, or build ones with wings or whatever. Any approach you take will be far cheaper if you leave out the people.
Calling somebody a luddite for not wanting to spend billions of dollars on orbiting stations is kind of like calling somebody a luddite for not owning their own learjet. It has nothing to do with not finding such things interesting or without value - they just do not have value proportionate to their cost.
When a place gets crowded enough to require ID's, social collapse is not far away. It is time to go elsewhere. The best thing about space travel is that it made it possible to go elsewhere. - RAH
"If you want a preview of what living off planet would be like, build..."
The technology is there, and has been there for decades. However, it will take a team effort, TEAM PLANET EARTH. Traveling to Mars or anywhere else, other than the Moon is nothing more than "a pig in a poke", A scam, a fool's errand. If you want to go on a trip you need several things before you go.
1. A place to depart from and to return.
2. You need to bring all the supplies you can possibly need. There are no motels, no McDonalds, no BP gas stations (yeah). This isn't 1492 nor is it 1849.
3. Nobody gets it right the first time, except perhaps N. Tesla. Practice, practice, practice. Make sure everything works, is repairable, can be upgraded, has backups, has backups, has backups.
4. Now for the crazy part, people. You cannot just send scientists and engineers, you need the ditch diggers, garbage men, plumbers and electricians, nurses and doctors, etc, etc, et al. A very large human presence is needed in near Earth space before you start to populate anywhere else.
5. Think up something that you would want in space.
Step into the future, now!
Yes, people live in nuclear submarines, often for months at a time. Then the submarine comes back to port, takes on fresh supplies and fuel, undergoes any necessary repairs and maintenance, and everyone gets off the boat for a while and enjoys some shore leave. It's the regular visits back to "Earth" that keep the crew alive, healthy, and sane -- and those visits would not be possible for people living at the bottom of some other gravity well.
Oh really?
China seems to have a rather successful economy, and their policy toward RIM is just as strict.
Hong Kong is just as successful and China had nothing to do with it. Let's see what happens in 99 years.
Wasn't Barrack Obama's right to keep his Blackberry after he became President questioned because the server was hosted in Waterloo Ontario, at Blackberry's headquarters in Canada ?
No, it's because there are records retention requirements in government. Remember Sarah Palin and her personal email account? Same thing goes, here.
Remember Nixon and his 18 minutes of audio tape? Sheesh.
THe UAE is not Saudi Arabia.
Without Saudi Arabia and its American military backing, the UAE and every other Islamic country would be turned into a big piece of glass.
Maybe the people would form a stable government, and I quite agree that they should be given the best opportunity to do so. There's no reason, though, to believe that US support is the only thing keeping most of the country in the dark ages. There are plenty of African countries that are at least as fucked up as Saudi Arabia without US sponsorship.
The people would just re-initiate their age-old tribal warring until one group comes out on top.
Then we'll have Saudi Arabia v2.0.
"If we are wise, we must leave this country to its people, whose dislike for us is increasing," said Prince Turki, advising Saudi officials to escape with their families.'
Then we can move to America, someplace hot, like Arizona.
while I will grant you that the government has its issues - I will say that the UAE does take security pretty serious and is probably one of the safest Middle Eastern (maybe the safest) countries for westerners. Part of the security is no doubt due to the intense control and monitoring of its citizens and visitors. I won't make a call whether its good or bad just an observation from someone who has spent a few months there.
Is it safe for women subjected to honor killings?
Draconian methods are always correct for the draconian mindset.
Once awake, space station astronauts powered down some attitude control systems
...and were snippy for the next 27 orbits.
If you want a preview of what living off planet would be like, build yourself a water-tight metal cocoon, lock yourself inside, have it dropped to the bottom of the ocean, and live inside it for the rest of your life..
Oh really?
I'm surprised that they would be using ammonia coolants, rather than something more exotic and less toxic.
Less toxic? Ammonia, R-12, R-134a, etc are un-breathable. The least toxic is water, unless you drown in it.
How about... Something a little more high tech?
Well of course you wouldn't leave without them, Mr. Human-Cyborg.
That said, I agree fully. There are certain people in this world who, given a problem and some small versatile components, can fashion a solution. I don't mean simply the ones titled "engineer"; it's more of a personality trait. Duct tape, jumper cables, a good pocketknife, plastic sheeting, and a skein of rope can solve most everyday problems, and many that aren't so everyday.
For a while, I carried a small coil of Romex 3-conductor wire in my trunk. I don't know how it got there, but when a screw fell out of my car door's latch 150 miles from home, it was nice to have materials to make a makeshift replacement. Just 2 inches of one of the conductor, folded in half, and threaded into the hole. The plastic insulation held as threads, and I had a working screw.
...or better yet, carry AAA Plus, it's only $97 per year. For the ISS, I would go with SSS (Space Station Society) Plus because you get 4 free tows to a higher orbit each year.
You guys make it sound like some kind of ghetto housing project.
...or West Virginia?
They should develop artificial gravity. That way their absorption chillers won't need pumps.
Much simpler.
This sounds like a production manager. Failure to perform periodic preventative maintenance carries a cost.
Reactive maintenance = Crisis management, sufficient for the short term, sucks for the long term.
Yup - would they even need cooling if it weren't for the people?
Sounds like the right mentality to go to Mars/ Asteroids/ or anywhere else off this planet.
How many Luddite flat-landers does it take to screw in a light bulb?
It just needs to put it to good use.
The operative words being - to good use -. When bankers take peoples houses, when industries put people on the street for more profit overseas human capital sounds like slavery. China and India seem to have cornered the market on that account. When people can just be thrown away like so much trash, there appears to be a fundamental flaw in the business model. Gold is not the only precious metal. Any metal that has an intrinsic value in industry is a candidate. Money today is used for achieving power and wealth far beyond the necessities of life. The persons wielding this power wield it for their own benefit regardless of who gets hurt or whether it benefits all.