I removed SunOS from an old Sparc 2 here at work because quite frankly SunOS sucked.
Lots of the things Linux has to offer many people take for granted. Right out of the box you have X, Netscape, a C compiler, a Fortran compiler, an up-to-date Make, M4, etc, etc. Compiling from source on an something like an ancient Sparc can be an absolute nightmare. You will wind up compiling EVERY single little package that is required to make the program you wanted originally.
I'll take my Linux on a sparc 2 over SunOS any day.
-2, Flamebait.
Must you OpenBSD Zealots keep spouting such nonsense? I have used OpenBSD and must say that I find it quite useless for the things I do. Linux makes a nice firewall and does masquerading just fine. It makes an even better desktop.
And where are you getting this fdisk command from? DOS?
Even though you can print directly to printers that speak LPR, I prefer to send everything to a common print server. Setting up queues on each individual workstation for each network printer is a hassle, especially when you actually use filters. It's much better to have a print server with all the appropriate queue's/filters, b/c you can create simple queues on the clients.
Why are some foreign countries so anit-US? I don't understand it. Why does the US make you so bitter? How do we make your life miserable? Please be detailed in your explaination.
This is a nice argument, but it has a fatal weakness that its proponents overlook. I fully believe that you buy CD's after sampling via Napster. But the only reason you do this is that you are accustomed to getting music via CD's, and you have a CD infrastructure (eg, a CD player).
You're missing the point, i'm afraid. You say "I fully believe that you buy CD's after sampling via Napster". Note that this is just your opinion. So let's say 90% of the people do actually buy the CD. What about the other 10%? That 10% is unacceptable to the people who have spent all their time and money to produce their music. It doesn't matter if you KNOW that distributing copyrited material makes more money (sometimes it does), the music industry apparently doesn't like it, have shown their displeasure, and it's wrong. Also, you may not steal the music, but I can tell you first hand that yes, people can and do. Regardless, they don't want thier stuff available, so you can respect their legal standing, or you can force you opinion on the music industry.
I think that in the long haul Napster is going to lose it's battle with the RIAA.
While I agree with you on the 'mp3's are good for previewing' idea, I disagree that it is a valid argument for an entity like the RIAA to condone distribution of copyrited mp3's. The bottom line is that the music is copyrited, the authors/owners of it do NOT want it available on the Internet, and it's WRONG. We need a better way to preview our music. Even if some of the authors are for the Napster/mp3 deal, if there are some who don't like it, your decision to take their music is being forced on them. Who are we to force them (the artists) what to do with their music? (That reminds me of a certain company indirectly dictating what OS I people should use for software..)
I'm not debating whether the $15/cd or $15 for 1 song is right or wrong. I don't like the RIAA and how they rape then music bus. All I'm saying is that right here, right now, it's stealing unless all people involved in the music industry (artists, bands, etc) agree that their copyrited stuff should be available for download.
Maybe you use Napster to preview songs, but I'm sure for every one person who uses Napster as a means to preview, there is one who doesn't.
Wouldn't you enjoy a free service where you could download the latest popular songs in mp3 format, in order to preview the cd?
Yes, this would be very nice, and it reminds me a bit of CD Now. CD Now has lots of commercial material samples available to listen to on-line. Perhaps another site dedicated to song previews could do the same legally (as in no full length copyrited stuff and full downloads of the legal ones). And please don't tell me you need the WHOLE song, at CD quality, to decide if you should buy it. That's like saying a free sample you get at the grocery store isn't enough for you to "properly" sample the food, and you need to have the whole dish to see if you like it.:) That would just be silly.
Unfortunately most of what you say is true... Instead of badmouthing everyone and flaiming companies/people, try doing something positive for Linux, like buy some Linux software, learn C and write some code, etc..
Linux extremests are their own worst enemy, and I hope they don't ruin it for us. Companies don't have to support Linux. And the more demanding the percieved Linux base is the less likely we will be to get support. Please, all you people who think you can force others to accept Linux, be quiet.
I agree with you partly, but do not mistake the window manager for the OS. The GUI you have with windows you cannot escape, where as with Unix you have a choice of window environments. If you think KDE is for wimps and is bloated, don't install it! If you like blackbox, install it! If you don't want a GUI, don't install X. The key here is you have the option.
Wow, you are amazing! That's what ppl seem to be missing. As long as the services don't require some crap similar to a windows registry, everyone can have Linux the way they want it. If you want to edit the/etc/printcap file with vi, you can, and if you want to have a GUI interface to the/etc/printcap file, printtool is there for you. ALL GUI utils can be done like this.
People need to realize that a nice GUI overlayed ontop of Linux will not affect it's configurability. Configurability will be retained, and you will have the OPTION to configure things graphically. If you want to see this in action, take a look at Mandrake Linux's installer..
I use Linux at work. At one point I missed not having a decent E-mail client for Linux so I switched back to Windows 98. I had it figured out - I would install TeraTerm to do my telnetting, have email in Express, and I could do X logins to a machine if I needed an X desktop. Suddenly I lost alot of the things I took for granted after using Linux for so long. I lost my beautiful desktop and gained the standard Windows98 look and feel, the one you can't change. I tried Litestep, but it was no where near as good as any xStep-type window manager. I looked into Window Blinds, but it costs, and I don't think I can justify purchasing that to my boss.
I lost my telnetting capability. I used TeraTerm for a while but I missed how easy it was to move around the system to configure settings. Just to open another terminal you have to go find your shortcut. I missed Eterm!! I missed all the free software I got to try out. I missed all the flexibility Linux offered me. Little things like your interface statistics that is hidden from you. I missed setting up test services on my machine before I put them on the servers..
If you use Linux you should switch back to Windows 98 to remind yourself why you are using Linux, before you forget.
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I agree with you, however I have to ask: If NVidia is so much better at writing drivers, why did they use OPEN SOURCE code? It looks to me as if Nvidia is 'borrowing' the same stuff that Matrox and ATI have been using for some time now. I think their actions speaks well of OS drivers, and perhaps you're not giving OS the credit due. Perhaps Matrox and ATI chose to go OS b/c they agree with the OS community, and not b/c their programming staff is less competent than Nvidia's..
I prefer to spill pipin' hot coffee all over crotch. McDonald's in an option any more, so I'm thinking of hitting some of the more obscure, less politically correct fast food chains.. It's so much easier than going after individuals.
And, Mr. Moderator, I left out the SPEED part of my Direct3D vs. OpenGL back-up posting. How is that not related to 'DirectX/3d is superior to OpenGL'? And YES, I realize that DirectX is a collective name for DirectInput, DirectSound, etc...
How is *IMAGE QUALITY* not related to 'Direct3D vs OpenGL'!? How is this OFF topic?!
Let me EXPLAIN why my post is 'on-topic'. 1.) Someone said Despite what some (Microsoft) will say, OpenGL is well-suited for games, from 2D puzzle games to 3D shooters. Despite what some (/. Linux zealots) will say, OpenGL is not at all suited for games, from 2D puzzle games to 3D shooters. I think that's what you meant to say. If you really meant what you said then I think you need to go and compare the two APIs - DirectX is far superior to OpenGL for gaming purposes, and it's only the instinctive/. hatred of all things MS that prevents them from accepting this. - Having played 2 recent OpenGL and Direct3D games, I felt it was of importance to note that I thought OpenGL produced a superior 3D scene. For most gamers, quality is a major issue.
What's/. coming too? Sucky moderators are WAY less funny than all those hot grits posts...
I don't know, have you seen QIII Arena and Unreal Tournament? UT is beautiful, but there' something about QIII's graphics... My TNT2 runs QIII faster than UT (20fps?), and it looks better, IMHO.
It would take dual Celeron 1GHz's to out perform a single PIII/Athlon. Remember, Celeron 900Mhz = 650Mhz PIII Cu. (approx) Dual CPU != 2X performance. For single process apps, an PIII/Athlon 850 will destroy a Celeron o/c'ed @ 900Mhz. In a configuration where you could actually use the 2nd CPU, it may acutally tie. Based on my benchmark (3D Games) Athlon is the way to go for ppl who want performance, and a great price.
Vaporware?:) SO, where are all the 1GHz PIII's? Intel was in such a rush to annouce they would have then, and they still don't have any kind of yield. AMD had 1GHz Athlons out BEFORE the date they posted!
The spitfire may not be out, but based on AMD's track record, I wouldn't be so doubtful that it's coming. Actually, right now AMD's Athlons are as fast as PIII's at the given clock, and they are not priced much highter than Celerons! Yeah, why wait for the Spitfire, when you can get an Athlon 700Mhz chip NOW, for under $300!
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I removed SunOS from an old Sparc 2 here at work because quite frankly SunOS sucked.
Lots of the things Linux has to offer many people take for granted. Right out of the box you have X, Netscape, a C compiler, a Fortran compiler, an up-to-date Make, M4, etc, etc. Compiling from source on an something like an ancient Sparc can be an absolute nightmare. You will wind up compiling EVERY single little package that is required to make the program you wanted originally.
I'll take my Linux on a sparc 2 over SunOS any day.
Once, I tried to run killall on a Tru64 Unix system.. Well, I killed the process alright, and the one with PID 0.
Moral of the story: Read man pages, folks. Don't assume that killall kills a named process on Tru64.
I think he means that the rest of the time, Linux is just as secure.
BTW, what Linux distro are we talking about here? What type of install? There are many distro's, and my different install types.
-2, Flamebait.
Must you OpenBSD Zealots keep spouting such nonsense? I have used OpenBSD and must say that I find it quite useless for the things I do. Linux makes a nice firewall and does masquerading just fine. It makes an even better desktop.
And where are you getting this fdisk command from? DOS?
I didn't know they had wild giraffe here! I thought they brought them over from Africa!
Even though you can print directly to printers that speak LPR, I prefer to send everything to a common print server. Setting up queues on each individual workstation for each network printer is a hassle, especially when you actually use filters. It's much better to have a print server with all the appropriate queue's/filters, b/c you can create simple queues on the clients.
I bet you said the same thing back when Super Nintendo came out..
You obviously didn't live near New Orleans..
Why are some foreign countries so anit-US? I don't understand it. Why does the US make you so bitter? How do we make your life miserable? Please be detailed in your explaination.
This is a nice argument, but it has a fatal weakness that its proponents overlook. I fully believe that you buy CD's after sampling via Napster. But the only reason you do this is that you are accustomed to getting music via CD's, and you have a CD infrastructure (eg, a CD player).
You're missing the point, i'm afraid.
You say "I fully believe that you buy CD's after sampling via Napster".
Note that this is just your opinion. So let's say 90% of the people do actually buy the CD. What about the other 10%? That 10% is unacceptable to the people who have spent all their time and money to produce their music. It doesn't matter if you KNOW that distributing copyrited material makes more money (sometimes it does), the music industry apparently doesn't like it, have shown their displeasure, and it's wrong. Also, you may not steal the music, but I can tell you first hand that yes, people can and do. Regardless, they don't want thier stuff available, so you can respect their legal standing, or you can force you opinion on the music industry.
I think that in the long haul Napster is going to lose it's battle with the RIAA.
:) That would just be silly.
While I agree with you on the 'mp3's are good for previewing' idea, I disagree that it is a valid argument for an entity like the RIAA to condone distribution of copyrited mp3's. The bottom line is that the music is copyrited, the authors/owners of it do NOT want it available on the Internet, and it's WRONG. We need a better way to preview our music. Even if some of the authors are for the Napster/mp3 deal, if there are some who don't like it, your decision to take their music is being forced on them.
Who are we to force them (the artists) what to do with their music? (That reminds me of a certain company indirectly dictating what OS I people should use for software..)
I'm not debating whether the $15/cd or $15 for 1 song is right or wrong. I don't like the RIAA and how they rape then music bus. All I'm saying is that right here, right now, it's stealing unless all people involved in the music industry (artists, bands, etc) agree that their copyrited stuff should be available for download.
Maybe you use Napster to preview songs, but I'm sure for every one person who uses Napster as a means to preview, there is one who doesn't.
Wouldn't you enjoy a free service where you could download the latest popular songs in mp3 format, in order to preview the cd?
Yes, this would be very nice, and it reminds me a bit of CD Now. CD Now has lots of commercial material samples available to listen to on-line. Perhaps another site dedicated to song previews could do the same legally (as in no full length copyrited stuff and full downloads of the legal ones).
And please don't tell me you need the WHOLE song, at CD quality, to decide if you should buy it. That's like saying a free sample you get at the grocery store isn't enough for you to "properly" sample the food, and you need to have the whole dish to see if you like it.
You forgot to include:
301: Windows Troubleshooting (aka re-installing Windows)
This course is essential for all Windows admins.
Unfortunately most of what you say is true...
Instead of badmouthing everyone and flaiming companies/people, try doing something positive for Linux, like buy some Linux software, learn C and write some code, etc..
Linux extremests are their own worst enemy, and I hope they don't ruin it for us. Companies don't have to support Linux. And the more demanding the percieved Linux base is the less likely we will be to get support. Please, all you people who think you can force others to accept Linux, be quiet.
I agree with you partly, but do not mistake the window manager for the OS. The GUI you have with windows you cannot escape, where as with Unix you have a choice of window environments. If you think KDE is for wimps and is bloated, don't install it! If you like blackbox, install it! If you don't want a GUI, don't install X. The key here is you have the option.
Choice is good!
Wow, you are amazing! That's what ppl seem to be missing. As long as the services don't require some crap similar to a windows registry, everyone can have Linux the way they want it. If you want to edit the /etc/printcap file with vi, you can, and if you want to have a GUI interface to the /etc/printcap file, printtool is there for you. ALL GUI utils can be done like this.
People need to realize that a nice GUI overlayed ontop of Linux will not affect it's configurability. Configurability will be retained, and you will have the OPTION to configure things graphically. If you want to see this in action, take a look at Mandrake Linux's installer..
I use Linux at work. At one point I missed not having a decent E-mail client for Linux so I switched back to Windows 98. I had it figured out - I would install TeraTerm to do my telnetting, have email in Express, and I could do X logins to a machine if I needed an X desktop.
Suddenly I lost alot of the things I took for granted after using Linux for so long. I lost my beautiful desktop and gained the standard Windows98 look and feel, the one you can't change.
I tried Litestep, but it was no where near as good as any xStep-type window manager. I looked into Window Blinds, but it costs, and I don't think I can justify purchasing that to my boss.
I lost my telnetting capability. I used TeraTerm for a while but I missed how easy it was to move around the system to configure settings. Just to open another terminal you have to go find your shortcut. I missed Eterm!!
I missed all the free software I got to try out. I missed all the flexibility Linux offered me. Little things like your interface statistics that is hidden from you. I missed setting up test services on my machine before I put them on the servers..
If you use Linux you should switch back to Windows 98 to remind yourself why you are using Linux, before you forget.
I agree with you, however I have to ask:
If NVidia is so much better at writing drivers, why did they use OPEN SOURCE code?
It looks to me as if Nvidia is 'borrowing' the same stuff that Matrox and ATI have been using for some time now. I think their actions speaks well of OS drivers, and perhaps you're not giving OS the credit due. Perhaps Matrox and ATI chose to go OS b/c they agree with the OS community, and not b/c their programming staff is less competent than Nvidia's..
GAG IS THE BESTEST BOOT LOADER IN THE WHOLE WORLD. GO TO FRESHMEAT AND SEARCH FOR IT. IT'S REALLY GOOD. FIRST POST, FREAKS!
I prefer to spill pipin' hot coffee all over crotch. McDonald's in an option any more, so I'm thinking of hitting some of the more obscure, less politically correct fast food chains.. It's so much easier than going after individuals.
And, Mr. Moderator, I left out the SPEED part of my Direct3D vs. OpenGL back-up posting. How is that not related to 'DirectX/3d is superior to OpenGL'? And YES, I realize that DirectX is a collective name for DirectInput, DirectSound, etc...
Isn't Allegro for DOS?
If you write to Clanlib, the games are ready to run on Linux, Win32, & BeOS.
How is *IMAGE QUALITY* not related to 'Direct3D vs OpenGL'!?
/. hatred of all things MS that prevents them from accepting this.
/. coming too? Sucky moderators are WAY less funny than all those hot grits posts...
How is this OFF topic?!
Let me EXPLAIN why my post is 'on-topic'.
1.) Someone said Despite what some (Microsoft) will say, OpenGL is well-suited for games, from 2D puzzle games to 3D shooters. Despite what some (/. Linux zealots) will say, OpenGL is not at all suited for games, from 2D puzzle games to 3D shooters. I think that's what you meant to say. If you really meant what you said then I think you need to go and compare the two APIs - DirectX is far superior to OpenGL for gaming purposes, and it's only the instinctive
- Having played 2 recent OpenGL and Direct3D games, I felt it was of importance to note that I thought OpenGL produced a superior 3D scene. For most gamers, quality is a major issue.
What's
I don't know, have you seen QIII Arena and Unreal Tournament? UT is beautiful, but there' something about QIII's graphics... My TNT2 runs QIII faster than UT (20fps?), and it looks better, IMHO.
It would take dual Celeron 1GHz's to out perform a single PIII/Athlon.
Remember, Celeron 900Mhz = 650Mhz PIII Cu. (approx) Dual CPU != 2X performance. For single process apps, an PIII/Athlon 850 will destroy a Celeron o/c'ed @ 900Mhz. In a configuration where you could actually use the 2nd CPU, it may acutally tie.
Based on my benchmark (3D Games) Athlon is the way to go for ppl who want performance, and a great price.
Vaporware? :)
SO, where are all the 1GHz PIII's?
Intel was in such a rush to annouce they would have then, and they still don't have any kind of yield. AMD had 1GHz Athlons out BEFORE the date they posted!
The spitfire may not be out, but based on AMD's track record, I wouldn't be so doubtful that it's coming.
Actually, right now AMD's Athlons are as fast as PIII's at the given clock, and they are not priced much highter than Celerons! Yeah, why wait for the Spitfire, when you can get an Athlon 700Mhz chip NOW, for under $300!