Actually, there's far more then that. What nvidia pays for is sole rights to access betas and other pre-release builds to optimize their drivers and iron out bugs. Ati devs often answer the "why is game x buggy on release on my ATI card"-question with their template "this game is the way it's meant to be played game, meaning we don't have access to it until it's released and it takes a while after we get access to iron out the bugs".
Let me specify: this is NOT about bands. This is about protectionist measures adopted by South Korean state on behest of local major corporations that have been in place for a long time. Specifically if you come as a tourist, you will have absolutely no problems using your phone with your own SIM. But if you try using a local SIM to avoid huge roaming charges, unless your IMEI matches the list, you're SOL.
There is also a question of location. Drilling for water in populated area may have shifted epicenter of the quake closer to the population center in question.
Part of their domestic "buy local" package. Most people in the West don't seem to know that South Korea is fairly fascist of a state, with major corporation essentially holding political power.
For example, this is the same reason why there is so much PC gaming and almost no console gaming in South Korea is because japanese products were banned for competition reasons (masked as historic reasons in official propaganda), so no gaming console could be sold in South Korea.
But you'll get a lot of clueless people talking about "not correct bands" and other stuff, not understanding that they actually do have a very protectionist business environment in South Korea.
I'm basing it on the ridiculous amount of bashing that hit MSE from security vendors when it came out, as well as enormous amount of posts in this very thread which say exactly the same thing.
Same reason you pay any other tax. Because government made a budget and such payments are required by law. Around here, starting next year you do not need TV to be required to pay that particular tax.
To be specific, it's against the law (afaik) for operators to offer SIM cards that work with phones with non-Korean IMEI.
It's not illegal to change your IMEI to a Korean one.
You can try using a SIM in any phone you like. But it will not work in your phone if your phone doesn't have a Korean IMEI. The reason I know this is because a good friend of mine was an exchange student there for about half a year. He's a huge apple fan and the only way for him to use his iphone4 was to flash a new IMEI, which according to sources was about 50% chance to be a permanent and last change to make to IMEI due to low quality flash used in his particular model.
His other options were to either buy a new iphone with local IMEI, which he didn't have funds for, or buy a cheapo local dumbphone to use for calling. He went with the latter route.
AVG is also known to have problems with a lot of games. Most recent I recall was its firewall blocking guild wars 2 completely for a while no matter what you did. You had to turn firewall off completely to be able to play.
It also routinely detects various game updates as viruses and summarily deletes them, sometimes requiring a full reinstallation of the original game. I guess that's their way of making their software look useful by making average clueless user see how it "defends him against viruses".
One addition: comodo's free firewall. MSE is a great anti-virus but windows' own firewall is shit. Combine it with putting windows machine behind a reasonable NAT and you're golden.
There are legitimate reasons to want to change IMEI to boot. For example, if you move to South Korea with your current phone that isn't "made in Korea", you will not be able to use it with a local SIM card. It's the law there.
So you either change IMEI to indicate that it's a locally made phone, or you buy another.
You get punished by not being able to store information. Which is a rather harsh punishment in this day and age, most people would not be able to work in their chosen career for example.
You will need blank media if you want to record anything. In many countries, you pay levy on TV regardless of anything else, other then your physical presence in the country. Same for owning a car in an area where you really won't be able to manage without a car.
Just like I have a right to decline to pay levies on blank media or watching TV? Sorry, doesn't work that way. If a levy is legally mandated, you pay or you leave the country completely.
Agree on all points. Google gains large amounts of personal data on its users from news.google.com. That is its core business. It obviously doesn't want to lose it, but it also doesn't want to pay for it either.
In the end, this will be an interesting precedent regardless of outcome. Both parties will have very good arguments to bring to the table.
You seem to imply that these two issues are completely separate, which is obviously not the case to the point where OP actually links to the situation in France.
Microsoft has a near-monopoly on OS, not web browsers. We do know how that argument ended, in spite of all the revisionist whitewashing after change of administration and US deal.
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I've already seen "gaming evolved" splash screens in several games. It's pretty much the same thing.
Actually, there's far more then that. What nvidia pays for is sole rights to access betas and other pre-release builds to optimize their drivers and iron out bugs. Ati devs often answer the "why is game x buggy on release on my ATI card"-question with their template "this game is the way it's meant to be played game, meaning we don't have access to it until it's released and it takes a while after we get access to iron out the bugs".
And of course, I forget how the actual phrase went. "All your base are belong to us".
Sigh.
I wonder what you'll have to say into the phone in japanese to get "all your base belong to us" out of it.
Let me specify: this is NOT about bands. This is about protectionist measures adopted by South Korean state on behest of local major corporations that have been in place for a long time. Specifically if you come as a tourist, you will have absolutely no problems using your phone with your own SIM. But if you try using a local SIM to avoid huge roaming charges, unless your IMEI matches the list, you're SOL.
There is also a question of location. Drilling for water in populated area may have shifted epicenter of the quake closer to the population center in question.
Part of their domestic "buy local" package. Most people in the West don't seem to know that South Korea is fairly fascist of a state, with major corporation essentially holding political power.
For example, this is the same reason why there is so much PC gaming and almost no console gaming in South Korea is because japanese products were banned for competition reasons (masked as historic reasons in official propaganda), so no gaming console could be sold in South Korea.
But you'll get a lot of clueless people talking about "not correct bands" and other stuff, not understanding that they actually do have a very protectionist business environment in South Korea.
Fuck that, did you know that water is poisonous? It recently killed a young girl that just happened to drink too much.
Terrible carcinogenic poison, that water.
(For clueless: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_poisoning)
I'm basing it on the ridiculous amount of bashing that hit MSE from security vendors when it came out, as well as enormous amount of posts in this very thread which say exactly the same thing.
This is not about bands. Person in question used a finnish iphone. You can certainly use it - with your own SIM. But not with a South Korean one.
Same reason you pay any other tax. Because government made a budget and such payments are required by law. Around here, starting next year you do not need TV to be required to pay that particular tax.
To be specific, it's against the law (afaik) for operators to offer SIM cards that work with phones with non-Korean IMEI.
It's not illegal to change your IMEI to a Korean one.
You can try using a SIM in any phone you like. But it will not work in your phone if your phone doesn't have a Korean IMEI. The reason I know this is because a good friend of mine was an exchange student there for about half a year. He's a huge apple fan and the only way for him to use his iphone4 was to flash a new IMEI, which according to sources was about 50% chance to be a permanent and last change to make to IMEI due to low quality flash used in his particular model.
His other options were to either buy a new iphone with local IMEI, which he didn't have funds for, or buy a cheapo local dumbphone to use for calling. He went with the latter route.
AVG is also known to have problems with a lot of games. Most recent I recall was its firewall blocking guild wars 2 completely for a while no matter what you did. You had to turn firewall off completely to be able to play.
It also routinely detects various game updates as viruses and summarily deletes them, sometimes requiring a full reinstallation of the original game. I guess that's their way of making their software look useful by making average clueless user see how it "defends him against viruses".
You do realize that many of such reports are financed by security vendors who sell a product that competes with MSE directly?
Reality is, MSE is "good enough" for vast majority of people, and on many accounts better then paid software.
One addition: comodo's free firewall. MSE is a great anti-virus but windows' own firewall is shit.
Combine it with putting windows machine behind a reasonable NAT and you're golden.
There are legitimate reasons to want to change IMEI to boot. For example, if you move to South Korea with your current phone that isn't "made in Korea", you will not be able to use it with a local SIM card. It's the law there.
So you either change IMEI to indicate that it's a locally made phone, or you buy another.
You get punished by not being able to store information. Which is a rather harsh punishment in this day and age, most people would not be able to work in their chosen career for example.
You will need blank media if you want to record anything. In many countries, you pay levy on TV regardless of anything else, other then your physical presence in the country. Same for owning a car in an area where you really won't be able to manage without a car.
Welcome to reality.
Just like I have a right to decline to pay levies on blank media or watching TV? Sorry, doesn't work that way. If a levy is legally mandated, you pay or you leave the country completely.
That's what the French argument is about.
By the same measure, content owners have no right to get money from me every time I buy blank media.
Except that they do. Because world isn't quite as black and white as you seem to think it is.
Agree on all points. Google gains large amounts of personal data on its users from news.google.com. That is its core business. It obviously doesn't want to lose it, but it also doesn't want to pay for it either.
In the end, this will be an interesting precedent regardless of outcome. Both parties will have very good arguments to bring to the table.
Whoosh.
Slashdot isn't a monopoly and users aren't earning money from third parties by using slashdot.
Gotta say, that was one of the worst analogies I've seen. It's pretty much the exact opposite of what's happening here.
You seem to imply that these two issues are completely separate, which is obviously not the case to the point where OP actually links to the situation in France.
Microsoft has a near-monopoly on OS, not web browsers. We do know how that argument ended, in spite of all the revisionist whitewashing after change of administration and US deal.