Meh, what did the user do before owncloud, which is a rather home grown software? I did not test a lot of groupwares, but i am aware, that there are many to choose from, with many users. Some are very old already and i guess they have many of the features a normal users needs. tine looks nice, horde is more mailcentric, egroupware is some other name i never tested... and you can combine single products. While owncloud is nice and each feature is not too bad, there is another more complete software for each feature, which is just not integrating into a single product, which is the advantage of owncloud.
for calendar and contacts you may still consider owncloud, but there are a lot of "groupwares", which do a fine job. owncloud tries to do everything... which gives quite a cloud replacement if you look at google, but may be a bit too much for a single project, which needs to maintain all this stuff.
i used owncloud and despite the other flaws, the missing incremental sync (which will not be added later) was the top argument. you cannot upload 100 mb each time you change a tiny bit.
It's not my code, i am only a user. But in my experience, the developers are reacting quite good on "issues" on their github (see the repos of haiwen). On the other hand, the owncloud devs tend to "i close this (still open) bug due to inactivity", when the inactivity is on their side, because they just need to fix the stuff with all information already provided.
PHP: meh insecure programming practices: Building SQL-Statements from string concatenation (no format strings for example) and so on rather slow NO INCREMENTAL SYNC!
the disk fills up with the same relative speed. okay, the OS does not get a big problem with 99% full disk. but your media collection does. you still need to upgrade your storage, when its getting full, because you will still get new big files.
Which means, if you're over 18 (16?), its bad for you to possess them. But taking them...
btw: Are there any court cases about people having or distributing underage photos of themself? That seems to be the corner case for some of the more rigorous laws.
Yeah, i suspect the NSA to infiltrate BIG projects like openssl as well. But i fear closed source the same. The only difference is, that commercial (!= closed source) software can easliy be affected by a NSL and that open source (which may be commercial as well) software can be read if something is suspected. And you can patch as soon as possible without waiting for a patch day.
I am not sure, if this is a question of nationality, whats your point of view.
What i DO support: - obey the law - if you do not like the law, form a group to change it.
But further: "Have an Opinion!". And this does not need to match the law. When i say "with sexting there is no victim", i do not say that sexting is legal, but i it may mean, that i would support laws, which do not mark every picture of a nude child as illegal, disregarding the way they were created. I do obey the current law, but if the cause would be big enough for me, i might try to make a petition, engage me in politics or something similiar.
This is what i mean, when is say there is a (subjective) moral point of view and a legal one.
I did not doubt it (in fact i did not even consider it, as i do not live in us legislation), but made a argument from the reason / moral point of view, not from the legal one.
Security is just not black and white. For opensource you have the chance to see something, with closed source you do not have it.
The only argument could be, that flaws in opensource can be found easier by the bad guys, because of the open source. But i doubt it. At least for this not so obvious ones.
I think stuff like the debian ssl bug was known by the nsa. But not because they read the source, but because they collected A LOT of ssl keys. So its like blackbox testing.
I guess, there are many prude people, and you can show some respect. But as long as its kept private (its not public, when two persons send nudes to each other), it should not interest anyone but the two persons.
But i know, that there are people working with the source code. An obvious backdoor would have been found i.e. by the cyanogenmod people, so it needs at least to be more subtle.
why is a child exploited, if it sends images it made itself? The leak is not voluntary, but the photos are. So there is nobody exploited, even when the leak may lead to awkward situations. The whole "its child abuse" argument is invalid for selfies.
and they cannot work, if you do not know, what is stress to the person and what is not. Questions like name, birth place and so on can be used to test "no stress". To test "stresses him", you need something you know its stressing. Illegal downloading is not. A questions about illegal downloading, which prevents you from getting the job will be quite stressing.
If some filesharing gets successfully banned in enough locations, it will add encryption and concealing of its protocol. iirc there are already approaches for bittorrent there.
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hmm, true. But maybe they will trigger an "unsafe elements" alert in the browser.
Meh, what did the user do before owncloud, which is a rather home grown software? I did not test a lot of groupwares, but i am aware, that there are many to choose from, with many users. Some are very old already and i guess they have many of the features a normal users needs. tine looks nice, horde is more mailcentric, egroupware is some other name i never tested ... and you can combine single products. While owncloud is nice and each feature is not too bad, there is another more complete software for each feature, which is just not integrating into a single product, which is the advantage of owncloud.
yep, its a filesync tool.
for calendar and contacts you may still consider owncloud, but there are a lot of "groupwares", which do a fine job. ... which gives quite a cloud replacement if you look at google, but may be a bit too much for a single project, which needs to maintain all this stuff.
owncloud tries to do everything
i used owncloud and despite the other flaws, the missing incremental sync (which will not be added later) was the top argument. you cannot upload 100 mb each time you change a tiny bit.
It's not my code, i am only a user.
But in my experience, the developers are reacting quite good on "issues" on their github (see the repos of haiwen).
On the other hand, the owncloud devs tend to "i close this (still open) bug due to inactivity", when the inactivity is on their side, because they just need to fix the stuff with all information already provided.
PHP: meh
insecure programming practices: Building SQL-Statements from string concatenation (no format strings for example) and so on
rather slow
NO INCREMENTAL SYNC!
only pro: Server runs on a cheap webspace.
And now go and have a look at seafile.com
So, and why wouldn't TLS help there?
so not only your FS is fragmented, but your partitions, too.
the disk fills up with the same relative speed.
okay, the OS does not get a big problem with 99% full disk. but your media collection does. you still need to upgrade your storage, when its getting full, because you will still get new big files.
Which means, if you're over 18 (16?), its bad for you to possess them. But taking them ...
btw: Are there any court cases about people having or distributing underage photos of themself? That seems to be the corner case for some of the more rigorous laws.
Yeah, i suspect the NSA to infiltrate BIG projects like openssl as well. But i fear closed source the same. The only difference is, that commercial (!= closed source) software can easliy be affected by a NSL and that open source (which may be commercial as well) software can be read if something is suspected. And you can patch as soon as possible without waiting for a patch day.
I am not sure, if this is a question of nationality, whats your point of view.
What i DO support:
- obey the law
- if you do not like the law, form a group to change it.
But further: "Have an Opinion!".
And this does not need to match the law. When i say "with sexting there is no victim", i do not say that sexting is legal, but i it may mean, that i would support laws, which do not mark every picture of a nude child as illegal, disregarding the way they were created.
I do obey the current law, but if the cause would be big enough for me, i might try to make a petition, engage me in politics or something similiar.
This is what i mean, when is say there is a (subjective) moral point of view and a legal one.
> Google, Apple, and yes Microsoft have plenty of smart people looking at their closed code for security flaws
same for big opensource projects.
And now show me a case of malicious insider in an open source project.
I did not doubt it (in fact i did not even consider it, as i do not live in us legislation), but made a argument from the reason / moral point of view, not from the legal one.
Security is just not black and white.
For opensource you have the chance to see something, with closed source you do not have it.
The only argument could be, that flaws in opensource can be found easier by the bad guys, because of the open source. But i doubt it. At least for this not so obvious ones.
I think stuff like the debian ssl bug was known by the nsa. But not because they read the source, but because they collected A LOT of ssl keys. So its like blackbox testing.
Indeed!
And in closed source software, you do not even have the chance to see the backdoor.
I guess, there are many prude people, and you can show some respect. But as long as its kept private (its not public, when two persons send nudes to each other), it should not interest anyone but the two persons.
irony: to login you should use a google account.
But i know, that there are people working with the source code. An obvious backdoor would have been found i.e. by the cyanogenmod people, so it needs at least to be more subtle.
why is a child exploited, if it sends images it made itself? The leak is not voluntary, but the photos are. So there is nobody exploited, even when the leak may lead to awkward situations. The whole "its child abuse" argument is invalid for selfies.
Why not? Because nudes are bad?
and they cannot work, if you do not know, what is stress to the person and what is not. Questions like name, birth place and so on can be used to test "no stress". To test "stresses him", you need something you know its stressing. Illegal downloading is not. A questions about illegal downloading, which prevents you from getting the job will be quite stressing.
and they added a hidden .impressum.html with the real name / address of the user. meh.
If some filesharing gets successfully banned in enough locations, it will add encryption and concealing of its protocol. iirc there are already approaches for bittorrent there.
Which results in very big collections of facebook data sent to you.