The first assumption that we shouldn't use landfills is wrong in a country that doesn't have a shortage of land. On an island with finite land, I agree.
Most important scarce resource right now is oil. Before any of the landfill hype began, about the time of the infamous garbage barge in the 80's all MSW was collected by one truck, one diesel engine. Now you generally have three engines, MSW, recyclable, Organics(compostables.). Three times the fuel usage. Waste collection companies love it, now they bill for three services.
Now on to post collection. Landfills still run on diesel, dozers, compactors, ADTs, excavators, etc. MRFs use diesel and elec off the grid. Compost sites mainly use diesel some stationary sites also use elec. At the landfill the fuel usage is mostly done after waste is packed. Organics here begin to produce LFG which is often used for power generation for 30 years, 800 acre landfill could produce 10-20 MW elec. Compost end products are now marketed and shipped with more diesel. And on to the big winner of the waste stream, Recyclables alot is not most of the non ferous plastics and paper product go where? Yep China. Diesel moves recyclables to ports where more diesel Or elec loads them on cargo ships that burn Bunk oil (search how much oil
And pollutants are discharged by freighters) half way round the world. Diesel and elec unloads the ship and diesel transports it to the factories without air pollution controls like most of the developed world. New crap is made from the recyclables and loaded on trucks that use diesel to port, Bunk to the world markets, diesel from the ports to the WalMart distribution centers and finally more diesel to the stores.
So in the olden days a truck and a few pieces of Yellow Iron would manage our waste now we drop dollars to pick up pennies and use more of our main scarce resource then ever.
NIMBY for sure. The choice is yours society, industry will do whatever you want but don't be short sited because you think landfills are bad without knowing why. Last point is most landfill pollution issues can be managed but once that diesel and emmisions from factories is in the air it's unmanageable.
Those facilities will be 2 hours away from the Smokey Mountains and 3-4 from the Carolina Coast, Myrtle Beach, Charleston. Property tax rates in the.7 per 1k. They complain about 1.3 per 1k here in Charlotte. Better than the 5% back in Chitown. Oh and 300k could buy you a McMansion in the current real estate market out there. Gets hot in the summer though. Oh and Moonshine is Real, and get used to the Yankee jokes. They are still pissed about that.
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The first assumption that we shouldn't use landfills is wrong in a country that doesn't have a shortage of land. On an island with finite land, I agree. Most important scarce resource right now is oil. Before any of the landfill hype began, about the time of the infamous garbage barge in the 80's all MSW was collected by one truck, one diesel engine. Now you generally have three engines, MSW, recyclable, Organics(compostables.). Three times the fuel usage. Waste collection companies love it, now they bill for three services. Now on to post collection. Landfills still run on diesel, dozers, compactors, ADTs, excavators, etc. MRFs use diesel and elec off the grid. Compost sites mainly use diesel some stationary sites also use elec. At the landfill the fuel usage is mostly done after waste is packed. Organics here begin to produce LFG which is often used for power generation for 30 years, 800 acre landfill could produce 10-20 MW elec. Compost end products are now marketed and shipped with more diesel. And on to the big winner of the waste stream, Recyclables alot is not most of the non ferous plastics and paper product go where? Yep China. Diesel moves recyclables to ports where more diesel Or elec loads them on cargo ships that burn Bunk oil (search how much oil And pollutants are discharged by freighters) half way round the world. Diesel and elec unloads the ship and diesel transports it to the factories without air pollution controls like most of the developed world. New crap is made from the recyclables and loaded on trucks that use diesel to port, Bunk to the world markets, diesel from the ports to the WalMart distribution centers and finally more diesel to the stores. So in the olden days a truck and a few pieces of Yellow Iron would manage our waste now we drop dollars to pick up pennies and use more of our main scarce resource then ever. NIMBY for sure. The choice is yours society, industry will do whatever you want but don't be short sited because you think landfills are bad without knowing why. Last point is most landfill pollution issues can be managed but once that diesel and emmisions from factories is in the air it's unmanageable.
Those facilities will be 2 hours away from the Smokey Mountains and 3-4 from the Carolina Coast, Myrtle Beach, Charleston. Property tax rates in the .7 per 1k. They complain about 1.3 per 1k here in Charlotte. Better than the 5% back in Chitown. Oh and 300k could buy you a McMansion in the current real estate market out there. Gets hot in the summer though. Oh and Moonshine is Real, and get used to the Yankee jokes. They are still pissed about that.