No, those governors were stopped by Bush, though they did respond quickly with help, which the LA governor accepted and appreciated, despite the deaths and destruction which Bush caused.
This story isn't complicated. You're just so addicted to lying to protect Bush that you can't stop, even when talking to someone like me who knows the facts, and won't accept your Bushwhoring. Give it up, Bushtroll.
What also has to happen is Congress to reverse the Bush Era laws which gutted whistleblower protections. Instead, they should create a Whistleblower Protection Program that reports to Congress. A good protocol would be for a researcher like Soghoian to report privately to such a WPP, which would report to a Congressional Security Oversight (Sub)committee, which would make the security hole owner do something. Whether they're the TSA, in which case Congress can force the TSA to act immediately, or even private owners, in which case the process is less direct, and depends on many factors. The WPP would work with the Cybersecurity Czar, and with the FBI. Probably work with the FBI's Witness Protection Program, on several levels: models for operations, and even protection from the same mobs, especially Russian and Chinese.
Markey is a Democrat, who has recently tried to put privacy protection legislation into place. I was surprised at his irresponsible announcement Friday. Usually politicians who quickly reverse in public, without a specific politician or media spokesmodel publicly pressuring them to, stay on the right track, because their "kitchen cabinet", or some large/powerful constituency, straightened them out. And if their reversal scores points, they become "champions" of the cause. With Markey probably headed for membership in a Democratic House majority in January, he would be a powerful ally - especially as he'll have committee power. And his reversal will score points in the natural geek/security constituency for his privacy policies.
If played right, Soghoian's work could turn out to help push us past a watershed where we scrap simcurity. Or maybe we're just seeing Act II of Security Theater, with Act III coming in January, "More of the Same".
Nagin calls himself a Democrat to win elections in hugely Democratic New Orleans, but is a Republican - as you'd see, if you'd click my link documenting his personal donations to Republicans. Or if, like me, you had lived in New Orleans - and voted for him, like I did once.
You replied to my facts about the National Guard being prevented from coming from NM to LA, leaving LA without the help they requested, by talking about the 82nd Airborne. That's either an implication that the National Guard is federal, or just extremely bad logic.
Since you now come out in favor of invoking martial law, despite our getting by just fine without it for over 200 years, and have now revealed that you're a veteran, and are now parroting the Republican spin that "the Federal government cannot protect you", it's clear that you've got the worst combination of baseless implication and extremely bad logic.
You're a fascist. Keep out of my state with your jackboots and your excuses that your boy Bush sent you "to help". I live in NYC, where I'm from, having livedin New Orleans knowing a flood was inevitable, and in California through earthquakes. I don't need any advice on how to prepare for disasters. Certainly not from someone like you, whose writing makes my head hurt, whose logic makes my head spin, whose Bush worshipping opportunism to turn the country into fascism makes my head call you out. Take your love of the master of disaster to the Republican fantasyworld you all live in.
I don't get it. Are you saying that ext3 keeps all files in only contiguous extents, and can't split them to fill the gaps? That the necessary slack space from such contiguous-only allocation must be wasted?
Problems this, problems that. Bush prevented the NM Guard from going to LA by sitting on the required paperwork for a week. The "states needing help", at least in Louisiana which I'm talking about, did everything they were supposed to do. EMAC was blocked by Bush's failure to send the legal OK.
The National Guard is not allowed to just go in from one state to another, even if the receiving state OK's it. The president must also ensure that the sending state isn't invading the receiving state with the complicity of the governor of the receiving state.
Those are the facts. The lies, no matter where you get them, are part of Bush's grabbing martial law powers, and his murder of Louisianans while trying to get some of them once Katrina offered the opportunity.
Just like Bush exploited the 9/11/2001 planebombings supported by Afghanistan to instead invade Iraq, because that's the power grab Bush wanted. He used the Afghanistan War budget to start bombing Iraq even before Congress agreed to let him invade Iraq (if necessary, yet another bait & switch exploitation opportunity). And he's cut off money and support to NYC in every way, including health coverage for WTC rescue/recovery workers now dying of lung disease and the poverty it caused. Just like he exploited Katrina to try to grab National Guard powers, which he's now got the Congress to give him.
I used to live in Louisiana, and I've been back several times since the storm. I know what happened. I'm not interested in bullshit that pretends that it was Blanco's fault, when it was Bush strangling her and killing Louisianans in the process.
Here's a "hint": who was Brady? The Republican official who was shot along with Republican Reagan. Which party controlled the Congress which passed the Brady Bill for Clinton to sign? Republican.
How many people get shot for you gun fetishists to have your dangerous toys? Too many. Talk about blind - you wrote the book.
The 2nd Amendment is a crock. But I won't waste my time explaining it to you. You're too far gone to care about reality.
As you apparently should know, there's a difference between exposing a hole and publishing a tool to exploit it. The tool puts real pressure on the owner of the hole to fix it, while the exposure often is treated as "merely theoretical", easier to ignore. Private notification of the tool's imminent release would do more to pressure the TSA to act. Jumping to public release is more likely to backfire, with the TSA blaming the messenger, as we see here.
As I've agreed in every post, Soghoian has surely exposed the TSA's dangerous incompetence, and the simcurity "security theater" to which he referred when posting his story to Slashdot. He might even have privately notified the TSA of his tool release, as I've also mentioned in every post. The point is that such private notification is an important part of the process of getting the hole owner to fix the hole, despite their preferred inertia.
FWIW, there's no need for a person to be a "terrorist" for them to be a danger - unqualified people making "honest mistakes" can't be in critical paths of essential operations, either. But I've never discussed Soghoian's desired results, except to explicitly assume he wants the holes fixed.
This dispute between myself and you (among other posters) could be resolved more easily if we knew whether Soghoian had privately notified the TSA. But in its absence, other points aren't so ambiguous. Such as the value of the private notification in pressuring hole owners to fix their holes. A valuable lesson, regardless of whether Soghoian's case teaches us other, perhaps even more valuable.
That's true. The Congress is controlled by a Republican majority in each chamber. Which controls all the committees. Which excludes Democrats from practically any influence on any legislation. Which rejected 80% of Democrat-sponsored bills and amendments this year. Which withholds pork projects from Democrats unless they vote for "Unitary Executive" legislation like this one.
Of course Democrats could do more to act as an opposition party, if only having an effect in the media (to win the people over for the next election). But the fact is that this is a Republican government, and produced this typically Republican piece of tyrannical legislation.
Bush will find a way to get the soldiers to "enforce law and order" against Americans, even ones with guns. Just like he did in Iraq, where most soldiers believe they're there to "take revenge for 9/11", or to find/stop WMDs, or some other lie Bush used. The way Bush and Rumsfeld got soldiers and "contractors" to torture Iraqis, as in Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo (and elsewhere).
I agree with you about all your patriotism. But I don't make the mistaken assumption that Bush will appear to be illegitimate. He's been a criminal for years, but has managed to paint himself as a saint, and his opponents as traitors, keeping the cooperation of most Americans, especially the government and the military. I don't see why that would suddenly change, when all he's done is change the degree of his tyranny to a little higher each time.
For example, where was the outrage, or even a whisper of dissent, when Bush got this martial law signed two weeks ago? The same day he got Habeas Corpus thrown out? After discarding the Geneva Conventions, and the ABM Treaty, and...
The Army (and its 82nd Airborne Division) is not the National Guard. Regardless of what it seems to you, the president's OK is required for one state to send its Guard into another, even if the recipient state's governor agrees, to prevent the scenario I described.
It was very difficult to understand your long, unstructured, unpunctuated post. Especially your citations of Democrats during Katrina. And whatever is your point about "Socialism".
The fact is that New Orleans was left to drown by Bush, despite the efforts of the governor, and the (Republican) mayor's incompetence. And just as Bush showed his agenda trying to blackmail LA Governor Blanco into letting Bush federalize the National Guard, Bush is now following through with this covert law enabling martial law.
Desperate closet Republican ploy: punt at "both parties", blame the media, personally attack the messenger.
And if you don't think you're on the Republicans' side, just realize that people who don't vote are part of their plan to rule with under 25% of Americans voting for their puppets.
Republican TrollMods can't stand the truth. They wish New Orleans was totally destroyed without a trace, rather than remaining as testimony to Bush's dictatorship. Even now, as Bush marches forward on the plan revealed when he tried to pull it in the Katrina crisis.
This process isn't clear. All that is clear is the "line of succession", not whether it must remain contiguous. I expect the Senate, in rendering a verdict on convicting under impeachment, would have to decide who gets what. And the Supreme Court would have to hear the inevitable lawsuit from the excluded replacements in the line, regardless of whom the Senate chose to assign where.
Which forces every branch of the government to agree in order to impeach (except the target branch, usually the executive). House impeaches, Senate convicts, people appeal, Court decides details in light of facts including the conviction - and other evidence decided in the trial.
You're just making stuff up without any basis. Why "should" an author have "control" over their work when they give it away to the public? A right to privacy might be indefinitely long, but where is recognition of the public's right in using published work? And how does the public's copying an author's work deny the author's continued ability to publish it?
You have a basic misunderstanding of property - especially the intangible intellectual property that is not diminished when more widely distributed - rather, increased in both existence and usually in value.
It's bad enough that the Constitution enshrines an unstable compromise between rights of expression and property rights for intellectual property, even though it's necessary and its reasons are explicit. Your version of that balance has no basis except some invented "morality" and the overwhelming desire for more property, without recognizing the rights of the public and people to express ourselves freely. It's like reading a D+ paper on an Ayn Rand novel.
So you personally don't have a gun fetish, so you can't understand how that scenario works. Typical Republican self-absorption. The kind that blames this Bush power grab on "liberals".
You call it debate when it's trolling, and you probably call Fox "News" and Limbo "analysis". No wonder you like the Republican charade of government that's destroying the country.
There's no reason not to impeach Cheney. Impeach him first. Most of the most serious Articles of Impeachment would be conspiracies that Cheney originated or headed.
We're not just facing a runaway president. We're facing a Republican criminal gang, with several bosses.
But even if we impeach just Bush, that just means a trial, which would paralyze Cheney, too, in defending himself before his own impeachment got underway. Bush most likely wouldn't be convicted without a Senate Democrat majority of 66%, which they won't have. And he won't resign - above all, Bush is too dumb to quit.
And finally, Cheney is already the president. Putting him in the actual office will screw his game. Keep him busy with other work, including politics and public appearances. And fill his VP office with someone else, with their own agenda, with all Cheney's old office's powers. And with Hastert gone, and a Democratic House, a Democrat would become VP. Now that makes impeachment look like a real solution.
Fact is, impeachment is our obligation. Letting their team stay intact to do its work is by far the worst option. Impeachment offers many ways out, many good options. Let's use them all.
Now's the time for you to claim you're a "Libertarian", not a Republican, like the rest of the rats fleeing the sinking ship, talking out your ass about your fantasy militia war in a totalitarian America.
And I'm sure many soldiers would have refused to go to Iraq if Bush hadn't found a way to lie us in there on WMD threats and lies about how Iraq was part of the 9/11/2001 planebombings.
You shouldn't be so cranky. With Bush turning us into a tyranny, you'll probably get your chance to shoot people and get away with it soon enough. The reason you "Libertarians" will stick into your version of the 2nd Amendment instead of its false premise about militias - as you already have.
Tell that to the people of New Orleans, many of whom were not the "crazy armed gangs" the network news framed for us as "the looters", who were shot by the Blackwater private army reimported back from Iraq.
Or to the NYC and LAPD cops (among many others) who shoot Americans for whatever reasons. When many PTSD Iraq veterans get the usual post-military jobs in stateside police and private security, I expect a lot more of this kind of violence. Even before Bush sends American troops to "protect us from the insurgents" inside America.
But that's all pretty reasonable. I don't know how to explain to you that an American civil war, especially one so bloody as you describe (bloodier than Rwanda?) can't possibly make America and the world any better. Unless you hate America, and want to see every one of us dead, and no trouble to anyone anymore, including ourselves. An insane viewpoint that doesn't suggest any way to help turn it to the light.
Consider how the next president, likely Democratic, will use this law to squash the "2nd Amendment" gun fetishists when gun control laws provoke them, escalating the conflict to forced universal disarmament.
I ignore the rest of your nonsense about liberals, to starve your bizarre desire to get slapped for spouting insanity in public.
That's the decision of a functional W3C HTML group.
When I was on the HTML-WG thru 1998, before the W3C replaced us, we used to document implementations as the standard. The simple process I described returns to that model, but combines it with the open-source model the past decade has proven is best for everyone's development, under the existing W3C governance.
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No, those governors were stopped by Bush, though they did respond quickly with help, which the LA governor accepted and appreciated, despite the deaths and destruction which Bush caused.
This story isn't complicated. You're just so addicted to lying to protect Bush that you can't stop, even when talking to someone like me who knows the facts, and won't accept your Bushwhoring. Give it up, Bushtroll.
What also has to happen is Congress to reverse the Bush Era laws which gutted whistleblower protections. Instead, they should create a Whistleblower Protection Program that reports to Congress. A good protocol would be for a researcher like Soghoian to report privately to such a WPP, which would report to a Congressional Security Oversight (Sub)committee, which would make the security hole owner do something. Whether they're the TSA, in which case Congress can force the TSA to act immediately, or even private owners, in which case the process is less direct, and depends on many factors. The WPP would work with the Cybersecurity Czar, and with the FBI. Probably work with the FBI's Witness Protection Program, on several levels: models for operations, and even protection from the same mobs, especially Russian and Chinese.
Markey is a Democrat, who has recently tried to put privacy protection legislation into place. I was surprised at his irresponsible announcement Friday. Usually politicians who quickly reverse in public, without a specific politician or media spokesmodel publicly pressuring them to, stay on the right track, because their "kitchen cabinet", or some large/powerful constituency, straightened them out. And if their reversal scores points, they become "champions" of the cause. With Markey probably headed for membership in a Democratic House majority in January, he would be a powerful ally - especially as he'll have committee power. And his reversal will score points in the natural geek/security constituency for his privacy policies.
If played right, Soghoian's work could turn out to help push us past a watershed where we scrap simcurity. Or maybe we're just seeing Act II of Security Theater, with Act III coming in January, "More of the Same".
The Constitution is what we made instead of a king when we gave the UK the boot. It applies as both an exemplar and a warning as the UK continues to catch up with us. Hopefully passing us, so we can catch up with it for a change.
Nagin calls himself a Democrat to win elections in hugely Democratic New Orleans, but is a Republican - as you'd see, if you'd click my link documenting his personal donations to Republicans. Or if, like me, you had lived in New Orleans - and voted for him, like I did once.
You replied to my facts about the National Guard being prevented from coming from NM to LA, leaving LA without the help they requested, by talking about the 82nd Airborne. That's either an implication that the National Guard is federal, or just extremely bad logic.
Since you now come out in favor of invoking martial law, despite our getting by just fine without it for over 200 years, and have now revealed that you're a veteran, and are now parroting the Republican spin that "the Federal government cannot protect you", it's clear that you've got the worst combination of baseless implication and extremely bad logic.
You're a fascist. Keep out of my state with your jackboots and your excuses that your boy Bush sent you "to help". I live in NYC, where I'm from, having livedin New Orleans knowing a flood was inevitable, and in California through earthquakes. I don't need any advice on how to prepare for disasters. Certainly not from someone like you, whose writing makes my head hurt, whose logic makes my head spin, whose Bush worshipping opportunism to turn the country into fascism makes my head call you out. Take your love of the master of disaster to the Republican fantasyworld you all live in.
I don't get it. Are you saying that ext3 keeps all files in only contiguous extents, and can't split them to fill the gaps? That the necessary slack space from such contiguous-only allocation must be wasted?
That's bullshit. You're just peddling the lies you heard on Fox News.
Problems this, problems that. Bush prevented the NM Guard from going to LA by sitting on the required paperwork for a week. The "states needing help", at least in Louisiana which I'm talking about, did everything they were supposed to do. EMAC was blocked by Bush's failure to send the legal OK.
The National Guard is not allowed to just go in from one state to another, even if the receiving state OK's it. The president must also ensure that the sending state isn't invading the receiving state with the complicity of the governor of the receiving state.
Those are the facts. The lies, no matter where you get them, are part of Bush's grabbing martial law powers, and his murder of Louisianans while trying to get some of them once Katrina offered the opportunity.
Just like Bush exploited the 9/11/2001 planebombings supported by Afghanistan to instead invade Iraq, because that's the power grab Bush wanted. He used the Afghanistan War budget to start bombing Iraq even before Congress agreed to let him invade Iraq (if necessary, yet another bait & switch exploitation opportunity). And he's cut off money and support to NYC in every way, including health coverage for WTC rescue/recovery workers now dying of lung disease and the poverty it caused. Just like he exploited Katrina to try to grab National Guard powers, which he's now got the Congress to give him.
I used to live in Louisiana, and I've been back several times since the storm. I know what happened. I'm not interested in bullshit that pretends that it was Blanco's fault, when it was Bush strangling her and killing Louisianans in the process.
Here's a "hint": who was Brady ? The Republican official who was shot along with Republican Reagan. Which party controlled the Congress which passed the Brady Bill for Clinton to sign? Republican.
How many people get shot for you gun fetishists to have your dangerous toys? Too many. Talk about blind - you wrote the book.
The 2nd Amendment is a crock. But I won't waste my time explaining it to you. You're too far gone to care about reality.
As you apparently should know, there's a difference between exposing a hole and publishing a tool to exploit it. The tool puts real pressure on the owner of the hole to fix it, while the exposure often is treated as "merely theoretical", easier to ignore. Private notification of the tool's imminent release would do more to pressure the TSA to act. Jumping to public release is more likely to backfire, with the TSA blaming the messenger, as we see here.
As I've agreed in every post, Soghoian has surely exposed the TSA's dangerous incompetence, and the simcurity "security theater" to which he referred when posting his story to Slashdot. He might even have privately notified the TSA of his tool release, as I've also mentioned in every post. The point is that such private notification is an important part of the process of getting the hole owner to fix the hole, despite their preferred inertia.
FWIW, there's no need for a person to be a "terrorist" for them to be a danger - unqualified people making "honest mistakes" can't be in critical paths of essential operations, either. But I've never discussed Soghoian's desired results, except to explicitly assume he wants the holes fixed.
This dispute between myself and you (among other posters) could be resolved more easily if we knew whether Soghoian had privately notified the TSA. But in its absence, other points aren't so ambiguous. Such as the value of the private notification in pressuring hole owners to fix their holes. A valuable lesson, regardless of whether Soghoian's case teaches us other, perhaps even more valuable.
That's true. The Congress is controlled by a Republican majority in each chamber. Which controls all the committees. Which excludes Democrats from practically any influence on any legislation. Which rejected 80% of Democrat-sponsored bills and amendments this year. Which withholds pork projects from Democrats unless they vote for "Unitary Executive" legislation like this one.
Of course Democrats could do more to act as an opposition party, if only having an effect in the media (to win the people over for the next election). But the fact is that this is a Republican government, and produced this typically Republican piece of tyrannical legislation.
Which, in turn, apparently requires Bush's power to declare martial law.
I've been volunteering my time, skills and tech to Congressional races to beef up their telecom operations, to good effect.
On Election Day, I'll probably be out driving people to their polling place.
I think of it as voting many times, legally and with good reason.
Bush will find a way to get the soldiers to "enforce law and order" against Americans, even ones with guns. Just like he did in Iraq, where most soldiers believe they're there to "take revenge for 9/11", or to find/stop WMDs, or some other lie Bush used. The way Bush and Rumsfeld got soldiers and "contractors" to torture Iraqis, as in Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo (and elsewhere).
I agree with you about all your patriotism. But I don't make the mistaken assumption that Bush will appear to be illegitimate. He's been a criminal for years, but has managed to paint himself as a saint, and his opponents as traitors, keeping the cooperation of most Americans, especially the government and the military. I don't see why that would suddenly change, when all he's done is change the degree of his tyranny to a little higher each time.
For example, where was the outrage, or even a whisper of dissent, when Bush got this martial law signed two weeks ago? The same day he got Habeas Corpus thrown out? After discarding the Geneva Conventions, and the ABM Treaty, and...
The Army (and its 82nd Airborne Division) is not the National Guard. Regardless of what it seems to you, the president's OK is required for one state to send its Guard into another, even if the recipient state's governor agrees, to prevent the scenario I described.
Ray Nagin is a Republican.
It was very difficult to understand your long, unstructured, unpunctuated post. Especially your citations of Democrats during Katrina. And whatever is your point about "Socialism".
The fact is that New Orleans was left to drown by Bush, despite the efforts of the governor, and the (Republican) mayor's incompetence. And just as Bush showed his agenda trying to blackmail LA Governor Blanco into letting Bush federalize the National Guard, Bush is now following through with this covert law enabling martial law.
Not just soundbites. Active suppression of history is another tool the Bush army uses to rule the minds of most citizens.
Desperate closet Republican ploy: punt at "both parties", blame the media, personally attack the messenger.
And if you don't think you're on the Republicans' side, just realize that people who don't vote are part of their plan to rule with under 25% of Americans voting for their puppets.
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Republican TrollMods can't stand the truth. They wish New Orleans was totally destroyed without a trace, rather than remaining as testimony to Bush's dictatorship. Even now, as Bush marches forward on the plan revealed when he tried to pull it in the Katrina crisis.
This process isn't clear. All that is clear is the "line of succession", not whether it must remain contiguous. I expect the Senate, in rendering a verdict on convicting under impeachment, would have to decide who gets what. And the Supreme Court would have to hear the inevitable lawsuit from the excluded replacements in the line, regardless of whom the Senate chose to assign where.
Which forces every branch of the government to agree in order to impeach (except the target branch, usually the executive). House impeaches, Senate convicts, people appeal, Court decides details in light of facts including the conviction - and other evidence decided in the trial.
You're just making stuff up without any basis. Why "should" an author have "control" over their work when they give it away to the public? A right to privacy might be indefinitely long, but where is recognition of the public's right in using published work? And how does the public's copying an author's work deny the author's continued ability to publish it?
You have a basic misunderstanding of property - especially the intangible intellectual property that is not diminished when more widely distributed - rather, increased in both existence and usually in value.
It's bad enough that the Constitution enshrines an unstable compromise between rights of expression and property rights for intellectual property, even though it's necessary and its reasons are explicit. Your version of that balance has no basis except some invented "morality" and the overwhelming desire for more property, without recognizing the rights of the public and people to express ourselves freely. It's like reading a D+ paper on an Ayn Rand novel.
So you personally don't have a gun fetish, so you can't understand how that scenario works. Typical Republican self-absorption. The kind that blames this Bush power grab on "liberals".
You call it debate when it's trolling, and you probably call Fox "News" and Limbo "analysis". No wonder you like the Republican charade of government that's destroying the country.
There's no reason not to impeach Cheney. Impeach him first. Most of the most serious Articles of Impeachment would be conspiracies that Cheney originated or headed.
We're not just facing a runaway president. We're facing a Republican criminal gang, with several bosses.
But even if we impeach just Bush, that just means a trial, which would paralyze Cheney, too, in defending himself before his own impeachment got underway. Bush most likely wouldn't be convicted without a Senate Democrat majority of 66%, which they won't have. And he won't resign - above all, Bush is too dumb to quit.
And finally, Cheney is already the president. Putting him in the actual office will screw his game. Keep him busy with other work, including politics and public appearances. And fill his VP office with someone else, with their own agenda, with all Cheney's old office's powers. And with Hastert gone, and a Democratic House, a Democrat would become VP. Now that makes impeachment look like a real solution.
Fact is, impeachment is our obligation. Letting their team stay intact to do its work is by far the worst option. Impeachment offers many ways out, many good options. Let's use them all.
Now's the time for you to claim you're a "Libertarian", not a Republican, like the rest of the rats fleeing the sinking ship, talking out your ass about your fantasy militia war in a totalitarian America.
And I'm sure many soldiers would have refused to go to Iraq if Bush hadn't found a way to lie us in there on WMD threats and lies about how Iraq was part of the 9/11/2001 planebombings.
You shouldn't be so cranky. With Bush turning us into a tyranny, you'll probably get your chance to shoot people and get away with it soon enough. The reason you "Libertarians" will stick into your version of the 2nd Amendment instead of its false premise about militias - as you already have.
Tell that to the people of New Orleans, many of whom were not the "crazy armed gangs" the network news framed for us as "the looters", who were shot by the Blackwater private army reimported back from Iraq.
Or to the NYC and LAPD cops (among many others) who shoot Americans for whatever reasons. When many PTSD Iraq veterans get the usual post-military jobs in stateside police and private security, I expect a lot more of this kind of violence. Even before Bush sends American troops to "protect us from the insurgents" inside America.
But that's all pretty reasonable. I don't know how to explain to you that an American civil war, especially one so bloody as you describe (bloodier than Rwanda?) can't possibly make America and the world any better. Unless you hate America, and want to see every one of us dead, and no trouble to anyone anymore, including ourselves. An insane viewpoint that doesn't suggest any way to help turn it to the light.
Lame troll.
Consider how the next president, likely Democratic, will use this law to squash the "2nd Amendment" gun fetishists when gun control laws provoke them, escalating the conflict to forced universal disarmament.
I ignore the rest of your nonsense about liberals, to starve your bizarre desire to get slapped for spouting insanity in public.
That's the decision of a functional W3C HTML group.
When I was on the HTML-WG thru 1998, before the W3C replaced us, we used to document implementations as the standard. The simple process I described returns to that model, but combines it with the open-source model the past decade has proven is best for everyone's development, under the existing W3C governance.
OK, back to Dapper 6.04?