Yeah, six years controlling NASA doesn't give Bush responsibility for its problems. It must be the fault of the presidents in the previous decades, whose safety and operational record was so much better.
What do you think the president does, anyway? Just watch NASA launches on TV with everyone else? Maybe you're right, in Bush's case.
Cutting off China and Japan from the US money that lets them ignore N Korea isn't "starting a war" with them. Do you think "diplomacy" is just nice words around a conference table? It's threats of economic consequences for acting against an agenda.
As for N Korea, there are lots of other ways out. But of course destroying their nukes from the air is one of them, if there are no others and they won't set off another nuke (as I said). Like teh US did in Libya, like Israel did in Iraq. Just the threat of that action is another form of "diplomacy".
If you want to read all that reality as merely "starting a war" with those 3 countries, then you must have your own evil/stupidity problems to deal with. Especially how you somehow read making Japan pay for America's military defense of its country as starting a war with it.
If I punched you in the face while shoving a hundred dollars in your pocket, would your ignoring the money be "convenient"?
How about the part where Bush and his dynasty have promised us all kinds of interesting space programs as cover for the plans they actually execute, which work for the military rather than science? That's awfully convenient for you not to notice.
I replied to a post with facts in every point I made. I already established facts in my reply to the original story.
If you can't handle the truth, that's your problem. After all, you've got a rune blade, so you can do anything.
If you're not alarmed by Bush, after all the rest he's screwed up, putting nukes in space, then you're dangerously relaxed. Wake up and smell the danger Bush is putting your world into. Don't blame me when those facts scare you.
You're still ignoring that Bush has controlled that entire government for 6 years. Of course it's as corrupt as he is, or haven't you noticed his Republican House burning down the past week?
Typical of your posts. Your "opinion" is worthless because you'll cherrypick facts (especially ones made up by Bush) to suit it.
I'm not talking aboug "reading between the lines". I'm talking about writing policy as a smokescreen for the real agenda, to put nukes in space. Michael Griffin was a Star Wars scientist, and now NASA is putting Star Wars tech in space.
Your "order" is nonsense. There is a chance to stop Bush and his Republican government next month on Election Day. If that fails, of course the courts can and will do nothing to stop him, especially as Bush gradually replaces them with his private judges. By the time "ammo" is all that's left, the country is destroyed, with armed gangs ruling the ruins.
So keep your talk about "fear". Space isn't a place for fear, it's a place for bravery. Not the cowardice of sending nukes to terrorize the Earth, but the kind of science that brings humans together. Not that you can understand the difference.
It serves the purpose of spending money on Bush's favorite military contractors, and turning any peace in the world into fear and war. You can't argue that Bush won't do something just because it's an expensive, dangerous boondoggle.
Your entire rant starts off with a disclaimer against "pro Bush zombies", but then you shuffle like one. Especially where you deny that all these terrible things done by the Bush administration "aren't Bush's fault". They're his responsibility. He's the boss, he takes the heat. If perhaps we were talking about a few isolated instances, and Bush immediately took corrective action on learning of them, maybe you'd have a point. But everyone knows Bush is the master of disaster. Trying to pretend he's not responsible for these consistent butcherings of good government is exactly how pro Bush zombies spend their days.
Bush boosted NASA's funding after he appointed a Star Wars scientist to head it up. Now his new space policy is to use Star Wars tech. You think that's just a coincidence.
And you deny Rumsfeld's radical programme to put tactical nukes on missiles to back up a new preemptive strike policy is new and dangerous. Tell me more about these "pro Bush zombies".
If you're going to tell me that Iraq is "just a comma", then fuck you. You admit you're too stupid to tell how miserably Bush is losing Iraq. Don't expect me to respect you when you turn that stupidity on me, insulting me with lies and nonsense.
It's popular now to say "I don't like Bush", but still deny he's responsible for all the damage. You're busy denying your own responsibility for keeping him in power, which makes you responsible for these terrible crimes he perpetrates. Enough of your strawman, your excluded middle, your lies and denial. You're defending Bush violating nuke treaties just like he does torture treaties and any other that stand in your way. It's certainly his fault, and it's your fault for protecting him. With the gutless cowardice to pretend you're "neutral".
Do you think N Korea is some random country? The US has done its part to keep the Korean Civil War going for a half-century, including 40K US troops patrolling a DMZ. The US is the one "handling" this, partly because we helped create it. And partly because we're the "sole superpower", claiming all kinds of global privileges precisely because we claim these responsibilities. Including making the treaties with N Korea, one which contained it in the 1990s, the other Bush immediately violated to goad N Korea into going nuclear.
This isn't some new development the world is pulling on us. This is yet another example of Bush screwing up an essential global policy the US has taken responsibility for since the 20th Century. Cutting and running now is absolutely impossible.
Yeah, for the sake of simply stating the simple truth I don't have to elaborately justify everything for every naive person. You want to challenge my statements, post some facts, logic or compassion. Think for yourself, or feel the discomfort of my words.
You've got something against "cutting to the chase"?
A lot of the Reagan/Bush Star Wars plans called for powering space lasers with nukes. It might still be stupid, but it will cost a lot of money paid to military contractor corporations. And spread fear of the US across the globe, including among sensible Americans.
That sounds like precisely the Bush Doctrine. Especially the "stupid" part.
Just because many of us post that Bush is a demented warmonger and Rumsfeld sending us to hell doesn't make specific reminders about their shredding the Geneva Conventions and nuclear treaties "Redundant". Nor does the predictable Bush worshipper and technofetishist outrage reaction to threatening to take their lethal toys away make telling the truth about this dangerous fantasy a "Troll".
TrollMods look at a day when N Korea goes nuclear, right into the arms of Bush and Rumsfeld, as a day to silence anyone telling us how bad that is.
Bush has been in charge for 6 years, the leader in facing down N Korea.
If I were president now, I'd have a lot more trouble cleaning up after Bush with a fully nuclear N Korea than cleaning up after Clinton. And with Bush ignoring or cooperating with China's attacks on us, it's even harder to control N Korea. But if I were president right now, I'd probably require China to force N Korea to destroy its nukes and missiles. I'd force Japan to join them. If they didn't, I'd shred China's "Most Favored Nation" trading partner status, and require Japan to pay for the American forces protecting them. And I'd probably airbomb N Korean missiles myself, unless the real intelligence (not that crap Bush makes up to rationalize his insane schemes) indicated they had other nukes they could deploy otherwise.
But then, I wouldn't have wasted America's military forces in Iraq at all, so we'd be better prepared. Or any of the thousands of other things Bush did to weaken the US and strengthen our enemies.
You don't have to make me president. Next month, on TUE November 7, 2006, you can throw out your Republican Congressmember, and likely your Republican Senator, for Democrats who will stop Bush from hurting us. They're in a better position to clean up this terrible mess.
If Bush had anything good to replace the Shuttle, then killing it would have been good. This is the guy who tried to kill Hubble, too, without anything to replace it.
It's obvious that Bush hates all science that isn't a weapon. If we had a reasonable president instead of that jackass, we'd have a reasonable space program. We don't. We have a nuclear space militarization policy, garnished with fake "Man on Mars" propaganda. While other countries are planning space industries to capitalize on our R&D. I'd prefer the Shuttle.
Anyone who takes the rosy part of a Bush public decree at face value while ignoring the dark underbelly in the rest is kidding themself, or worse.
Nuclear "space propulsion" is just a smokescreen for nuclear space weapons. It's not very useful to detonate nukes in orbit, though lots of Star Wars science fiction systems power other weapons that way, so most of their activity is propelling other weapons.
And once a nuke space war starts, who's going to stop the US from using "propulsion" nukes for direct weapons purposes, by waving papers like treaties and this Bush announcement?
Anyone who can't see through this Bush ploy to nuclearize space is hopelessly naive. I don't have the time to school everyone down to that level. I prefer to just expose the basics and encourage people to think for themselves.
After all the gibberish you've spewed over the years, you've got nothing worth hearing to say about "Bush Hating".
You're a Bush worshipping troll.
But for the benefit of those fortunate not to have slipped in your slime before, I'll just point out what a sicko you are.
1. Bush is putting nukes in space, after proving he can't do anything right, which makes him do more. All dangerous. Now upping the ante to space nukes. Insane.
2. Bush specifically said in that policy that we should use nukes to put weapons in space. Of course that's his #1 priority. Everyone knows he hates science, that he put a Republican flack to work censoring "big bang" science because it reinforced evolution science rather than Creationism.
3. "We" are only a long way from worrying about space combat because you are in denial of the apocalyptic dreams Bush pursues at every chance.
4. The Rumsfeld "issue"? That berzerk loser is unfit to command a garbage scow, and you're calling him an "issue"? Rumsfeld has been putting nukes on US missiles for years, changing our policy to "preemptive strike" even while bathing in the blood of that strategy's Iraq failure. The solution is for the Senate to force Bush to fire Rumsfeld, which a Democratic Senate will probably do next year. The Constitution is "still in effect" while Bush has the right to torture anyone he wants to secretly kidnap, prosecute and execute them with secret evidence they never even see? He can wiretap anyone he wants? Which constitution are you talking about?
And finally, you show just how useless is your advice with your final words. Americans should arm ourselves to the teeth to oppose a nuke military space program? Right, because every armed insurrection has always been a stabilizing effect on a warmonger government with world-destroying power. Yeah, the reasonable Constitutionalists will surely carry the day when armed revolt fills the streets and countryside, with gun fetishists practicing their survival skills the past few generations.
What kind of fantasy world do you live in? I know: the one that worships Bush, and fills the air with meaningless drivel that preoccupies us while Bush throws peace and prosperity into the pit of hell.
I'm glad Bush proved he can be trusted with our space program. He perfected the Space Shuttle (by grounding it for years, now headed for termination). He put an American on Mars, just like his father promised when in political trouble a decade and a half ago. He's making sure other countries don't take American nuclear expansion as a signal to proliferate their own nukes, like in N Korea, Iran, India.
Yes, by all means trust this sober, reasonable man of science with an expensive program to put nukes in space. After he rebuilt New Orleans around the Space Shuttle fueltank factory, everyone there will gladly tell us that he can do anything he sets his mind to.
You're right, every reference to the OS apart from being "updatable" is apparently made up by eldavojohn, who submitted the story without sourcing the "Linux" allegations.
Running Linux that can be downloaded to a Wii means old Wiis will still be around to compete with new ones. Combined with their dubious (no matter how you look at it) claim that their Linux will be a "proprietary Linux", that sounds a lot like the vaporware announcement game console makers are used to peddling to credulous game "journalism" media.
Will the new generation of game consoles get converted to the slightly more cross-examined PC press tricks from their generations of easy lying to game press? Or will they turn the tiny amount of PC journalism accountability into the standard lying that defines the much larger market?
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Yeah, six years controlling NASA doesn't give Bush responsibility for its problems. It must be the fault of the presidents in the previous decades, whose safety and operational record was so much better.
What do you think the president does, anyway? Just watch NASA launches on TV with everyone else? Maybe you're right, in Bush's case.
Cutting off China and Japan from the US money that lets them ignore N Korea isn't "starting a war" with them. Do you think "diplomacy" is just nice words around a conference table? It's threats of economic consequences for acting against an agenda.
As for N Korea, there are lots of other ways out. But of course destroying their nukes from the air is one of them, if there are no others and they won't set off another nuke (as I said). Like teh US did in Libya, like Israel did in Iraq. Just the threat of that action is another form of "diplomacy".
If you want to read all that reality as merely "starting a war" with those 3 countries, then you must have your own evil/stupidity problems to deal with. Especially how you somehow read making Japan pay for America's military defense of its country as starting a war with it.
You've got war on your brain. Not my fault.
If I punched you in the face while shoving a hundred dollars in your pocket, would your ignoring the money be "convenient"?
How about the part where Bush and his dynasty have promised us all kinds of interesting space programs as cover for the plans they actually execute, which work for the military rather than science? That's awfully convenient for you not to notice.
I replied to a post with facts in every point I made. I already established facts in my reply to the original story.
If you can't handle the truth, that's your problem. After all, you've got a rune blade, so you can do anything.
If you're not alarmed by Bush, after all the rest he's screwed up, putting nukes in space, then you're dangerously relaxed. Wake up and smell the danger Bush is putting your world into. Don't blame me when those facts scare you.
You're still ignoring that Bush has controlled that entire government for 6 years. Of course it's as corrupt as he is, or haven't you noticed his Republican House burning down the past week?
Typical of your posts. Your "opinion" is worthless because you'll cherrypick facts (especially ones made up by Bush) to suit it.
I'm not talking aboug "reading between the lines". I'm talking about writing policy as a smokescreen for the real agenda, to put nukes in space. Michael Griffin was a Star Wars scientist, and now NASA is putting Star Wars tech in space.
Your "order" is nonsense. There is a chance to stop Bush and his Republican government next month on Election Day. If that fails, of course the courts can and will do nothing to stop him, especially as Bush gradually replaces them with his private judges. By the time "ammo" is all that's left, the country is destroyed, with armed gangs ruling the ruins.
So keep your talk about "fear". Space isn't a place for fear, it's a place for bravery. Not the cowardice of sending nukes to terrorize the Earth, but the kind of science that brings humans together. Not that you can understand the difference.
"putting nukes in space serves no purpose"
It serves the purpose of spending money on Bush's favorite military contractors, and turning any peace in the world into fear and war. You can't argue that Bush won't do something just because it's an expensive, dangerous boondoggle.
Your entire rant starts off with a disclaimer against "pro Bush zombies", but then you shuffle like one. Especially where you deny that all these terrible things done by the Bush administration "aren't Bush's fault". They're his responsibility. He's the boss, he takes the heat. If perhaps we were talking about a few isolated instances, and Bush immediately took corrective action on learning of them, maybe you'd have a point. But everyone knows Bush is the master of disaster. Trying to pretend he's not responsible for these consistent butcherings of good government is exactly how pro Bush zombies spend their days.
Bush boosted NASA's funding after he appointed a Star Wars scientist to head it up. Now his new space policy is to use Star Wars tech. You think that's just a coincidence.
And you deny Rumsfeld's radical programme to put tactical nukes on missiles to back up a new preemptive strike policy is new and dangerous. Tell me more about these "pro Bush zombies".
If you're going to tell me that Iraq is "just a comma", then fuck you. You admit you're too stupid to tell how miserably Bush is losing Iraq. Don't expect me to respect you when you turn that stupidity on me, insulting me with lies and nonsense.
It's popular now to say "I don't like Bush", but still deny he's responsible for all the damage. You're busy denying your own responsibility for keeping him in power, which makes you responsible for these terrible crimes he perpetrates. Enough of your strawman, your excluded middle, your lies and denial. You're defending Bush violating nuke treaties just like he does torture treaties and any other that stand in your way. It's certainly his fault, and it's your fault for protecting him. With the gutless cowardice to pretend you're "neutral".
I got up on the wrong side of North Korea detonated a nuke while Bush sends nukes into space, Anonymous denial Coward.
Staying in bed might have worked for you Bush worshippers these past 6 years, but you've made the country sickening.
Don't get over your denial. Just stay home on Election Day, safe in the delusion that "everything's OK".
Do you think N Korea is some random country? The US has done its part to keep the Korean Civil War going for a half-century, including 40K US troops patrolling a DMZ. The US is the one "handling" this, partly because we helped create it. And partly because we're the "sole superpower", claiming all kinds of global privileges precisely because we claim these responsibilities. Including making the treaties with N Korea, one which contained it in the 1990s, the other Bush immediately violated to goad N Korea into going nuclear.
This isn't some new development the world is pulling on us. This is yet another example of Bush screwing up an essential global policy the US has taken responsibility for since the 20th Century. Cutting and running now is absolutely impossible.
Yeah, for the sake of simply stating the simple truth I don't have to elaborately justify everything for every naive person. You want to challenge my statements, post some facts, logic or compassion. Think for yourself, or feel the discomfort of my words.
You've got something against "cutting to the chase"?
A lot of the Reagan/Bush Star Wars plans called for powering space lasers with nukes. It might still be stupid, but it will cost a lot of money paid to military contractor corporations. And spread fear of the US across the globe, including among sensible Americans.
That sounds like precisely the Bush Doctrine. Especially the "stupid" part.
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I react to some Bush worshipper who says nothing but
"Can you say wild overreaction? Can you say schizophrenia? Can you say lift the tin foil full face helmet so you can breathe?"
by pointing out their denial, and that's "Flamebait". TrollMod denial is nuclear powered.
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TrollMods give new meaning to "AsTrollTurfer". Now it's a quadruple entendre, a new unilingual record!
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Just because many of us post that Bush is a demented warmonger and Rumsfeld sending us to hell doesn't make specific reminders about their shredding the Geneva Conventions and nuclear treaties "Redundant". Nor does the predictable Bush worshipper and technofetishist outrage reaction to threatening to take their lethal toys away make telling the truth about this dangerous fantasy a "Troll".
TrollMods look at a day when N Korea goes nuclear, right into the arms of Bush and Rumsfeld, as a day to silence anyone telling us how bad that is.
Bush took the Clinton success limiting N Korea's nuke program and sabotaged it by goading them into going nuclear while ignoring their progress.
Bush has been in charge for 6 years, the leader in facing down N Korea.
If I were president now, I'd have a lot more trouble cleaning up after Bush with a fully nuclear N Korea than cleaning up after Clinton. And with Bush ignoring or cooperating with China's attacks on us, it's even harder to control N Korea. But if I were president right now, I'd probably require China to force N Korea to destroy its nukes and missiles. I'd force Japan to join them. If they didn't, I'd shred China's "Most Favored Nation" trading partner status, and require Japan to pay for the American forces protecting them. And I'd probably airbomb N Korean missiles myself, unless the real intelligence (not that crap Bush makes up to rationalize his insane schemes) indicated they had other nukes they could deploy otherwise.
But then, I wouldn't have wasted America's military forces in Iraq at all, so we'd be better prepared. Or any of the thousands of other things Bush did to weaken the US and strengthen our enemies.
You don't have to make me president. Next month, on TUE November 7, 2006, you can throw out your Republican Congressmember, and likely your Republican Senator, for Democrats who will stop Bush from hurting us. They're in a better position to clean up this terrible mess.
If Bush had anything good to replace the Shuttle, then killing it would have been good. This is the guy who tried to kill Hubble, too, without anything to replace it.
It's obvious that Bush hates all science that isn't a weapon. If we had a reasonable president instead of that jackass, we'd have a reasonable space program. We don't. We have a nuclear space militarization policy, garnished with fake "Man on Mars" propaganda. While other countries are planning space industries to capitalize on our R&D. I'd prefer the Shuttle.
Anyone who takes the rosy part of a Bush public decree at face value while ignoring the dark underbelly in the rest is kidding themself, or worse.
Nuclear "space propulsion" is just a smokescreen for nuclear space weapons. It's not very useful to detonate nukes in orbit, though lots of Star Wars science fiction systems power other weapons that way, so most of their activity is propelling other weapons.
And once a nuke space war starts, who's going to stop the US from using "propulsion" nukes for direct weapons purposes, by waving papers like treaties and this Bush announcement?
Anyone who can't see through this Bush ploy to nuclearize space is hopelessly naive. I don't have the time to school everyone down to that level. I prefer to just expose the basics and encourage people to think for themselves.
After all the gibberish you've spewed over the years, you've got nothing worth hearing to say about "Bush Hating".
You're a Bush worshipping troll.
But for the benefit of those fortunate not to have slipped in your slime before, I'll just point out what a sicko you are.
1. Bush is putting nukes in space, after proving he can't do anything right, which makes him do more. All dangerous. Now upping the ante to space nukes. Insane.
2. Bush specifically said in that policy that we should use nukes to put weapons in space. Of course that's his #1 priority. Everyone knows he hates science, that he put a Republican flack to work censoring "big bang" science because it reinforced evolution science rather than Creationism.
3. "We" are only a long way from worrying about space combat because you are in denial of the apocalyptic dreams Bush pursues at every chance.
4. The Rumsfeld "issue"? That berzerk loser is unfit to command a garbage scow, and you're calling him an "issue"? Rumsfeld has been putting nukes on US missiles for years, changing our policy to "preemptive strike" even while bathing in the blood of that strategy's Iraq failure. The solution is for the Senate to force Bush to fire Rumsfeld, which a Democratic Senate will probably do next year. The Constitution is "still in effect" while Bush has the right to torture anyone he wants to secretly kidnap, prosecute and execute them with secret evidence they never even see? He can wiretap anyone he wants? Which constitution are you talking about?
And finally, you show just how useless is your advice with your final words. Americans should arm ourselves to the teeth to oppose a nuke military space program? Right, because every armed insurrection has always been a stabilizing effect on a warmonger government with world-destroying power. Yeah, the reasonable Constitutionalists will surely carry the day when armed revolt fills the streets and countryside, with gun fetishists practicing their survival skills the past few generations.
What kind of fantasy world do you live in? I know: the one that worships Bush, and fills the air with meaningless drivel that preoccupies us while Bush throws peace and prosperity into the pit of hell.
Yes, a starship that will greet us as liberators, throwing flowers.
"No one could have anticipated that the nuclear spaceship would kill hundreds of thousands of people" - Bush's 2009 "Emergency Reinauguration Speech"
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Can you say "DENIAL"? I knew you couldn't.
I'm glad Bush proved he can be trusted with our space program. He perfected the Space Shuttle (by grounding it for years, now headed for termination). He put an American on Mars, just like his father promised when in political trouble a decade and a half ago. He's making sure other countries don't take American nuclear expansion as a signal to proliferate their own nukes, like in N Korea, Iran, India.
Yes, by all means trust this sober, reasonable man of science with an expensive program to put nukes in space. After he rebuilt New Orleans around the Space Shuttle fueltank factory, everyone there will gladly tell us that he can do anything he sets his mind to.
Oh, yeah, Bush throwing away the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty like he did the Geneva Conventions "can only be a good thing in the modern day world".
On a day when everyone's freaking out because Bush let the N Koreans go nuclear, you think more nukes, in space, "can only be a good thing"?
Run by Donald Rumsfeld's Pentagon? The Rumsfeld who's lobbying to throw away the "antiquated" US government structure that makes the president less than an emperor.
Can you say "Global Thermonuclear War"? Can you say anything other than "oooh, nuclear space drive", or look away from your monitor at the real world?
You're right, every reference to the OS apart from being "updatable" is apparently made up by eldavojohn, who submitted the story without sourcing the "Linux" allegations.
Running Linux that can be downloaded to a Wii means old Wiis will still be around to compete with new ones. Combined with their dubious (no matter how you look at it) claim that their Linux will be a "proprietary Linux", that sounds a lot like the vaporware announcement game console makers are used to peddling to credulous game "journalism" media.
Will the new generation of game consoles get converted to the slightly more cross-examined PC press tricks from their generations of easy lying to game press? Or will they turn the tiny amount of PC journalism accountability into the standard lying that defines the much larger market?
"Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas." - traditional proverb
"Pay peanuts, get monkeys, catch fleas." - neotraditional proverb
"Trust Microsoft, get screwed." - Baystar, SCO, IBM...