I was k-lined for disagreeing with you. My position is the irc is a place for friends to meet and have a little fun and if we can help someone from time to time we do. You feel a need to make OPN a career. Fine for you but I have a career. I disagreed with your general philosophy in principal and never outloud until your endless rant forced me to decide that OPN just wasn't worth it. If you have doubts the lilo rant logs are still available for anyone who cares to see'm for themselves.
As for your k-line. Your argument with me extended a k-line to an entire group of people. As you know all to well... You k-lined everyone, regardless of their relationship and/or affiliation with me.
Even today there are at least 1/2 dozen
extraordinary engineers k-lined who had no
disagreement with you. No Fear Lilo Ol' Friend. We've got our own network where we can talk without your eavesdropping and nagging/msg's when something rubs you the
wrong way. Which seems to be everything from you're ol' lady, to your ex-employers,
to people you tried to bully, cajole, while
begging for money or other favors using the IRC.
In anycase... This is boring. I've got real work to do. Enough of wasting time on a long retired topic.
As to items
1). Secure all servers. You're telling me
they're not? *GASP* Heaven Forbid.
2). License ISPs. Make ISPs accountable?
You're telling me their NOT?
3). Make Spoofed packets illegal? But, what
about the legitimate use of a spoofed
packet lets say for example by a FRAD
programatically using probability to
determine a session partner is heavily
loaded spoofs a packet on its partners
behalf to reset the ttl along a route.
*GASP* You can do this?
4). Authenticate everything? You mean we
dont make reasonable attempts?
5). Criminalize all scanning including
pings and probes. And lets defeat other
diagnostics such as tcpdump,
traceroute, and the application of
technologically sophisticated devices
used as an assist to locate, isolate,
determine and prevent problems before
they become problems. Lets burn all the
protocol analyzers. Lets do away with
other tools such as nmap which make it
very easy to thouroughly self-test the
integrity of our networks.
Hey... While we're at it. Lets forget all about this freedom and democracy noise. Voting for presidents and legislators who
help to promote and work to make liberty and justice a reality and not just a pretty
notion. Yea... thats it. Back to the good
ol' days with Nikita encouraging nuclear war, economies and forms of government that
had no clear chance of succeeding. Lets just toss our freedom and be equal to you.
Small minded little drones who sing the song along company lines... Heaven forbid
a creative thought.
While I'm not an advocate of temper tantrums or pushing an entire group
when your target is an individual,
his or her business, wallet, pocket-
book, whatever... The IRC has proven
itself primed for Denial Of Service
Attacks for more years then I care to
think about.
Combine that with Ron Levin's Anal Retentive behavior exasserbated by
his delusions exasserbated yet again
by his history and misbehaving OPN
as well as his infuriating antics on
the networks which preceeded OPN;
I have to wonder why anyone is
surprised.
Furthermore... What kinda of network
administrator cant divert an OC12 DOS
into the bit bucket before it affects
the host. I'm not saying its right.
I see it happen constantly. Any network
admin worth his/her salt knows how to
divert the attach upstream falling back
to any of 1 or more redundant backbones
to the net. Perhaps you should speak to
me about implementing a network that
addresses the very issues you react to
as opposed to anticipating, planning for,
and are prepared to manage proactively.
You bet... I can route that DOS into the
bit bucket before my dual 7513s begin to
feel the pain.
Why is OPN a target? I've read the posts
from beginning to end. I hear nothing but
hearsay, inuendo, a bit of sarcasm along
with a bit of humor. Just visit opn and
#linpeople. Its easy to see why anyone from
7 to 70 or better might wish to beat #linpeople into oblivion. I read no proof
that makes me believe with any moral certainty that 1). This is a kid or a dolt
with destructive tendencies. 2). I have no
reason to believe that these are DOS attacks at all. For all the evidence presented thus far... this could be inompetant administration complicated by a
corporate IT move.
Before "Community People" slips my mind again... Forgive me for asking... BUT,
wtf is a community people? Are you folks
in Silicon Valley back living in communitives of participants living in
network ready Community Caves?
Enough of this noise. The polls are about to close in Hawaii. The next president is
more interesting then this noise.
Cheers,
S.L.Wicked
Slashdot Mirror
I was k-lined for disagreeing with you. My position is the irc is a place for friends to meet and have a little fun and if we can help someone from time to time we do. You feel a need to make OPN a career. Fine for you but I have a career. I disagreed with your general philosophy in principal and never outloud until your endless rant forced me to decide that OPN just wasn't worth it. If you have doubts the lilo rant logs are still available for anyone who cares to see'm for themselves. As for your k-line. Your argument with me extended a k-line to an entire group of people. As you know all to well... You k-lined everyone, regardless of their relationship and/or affiliation with me. Even today there are at least 1/2 dozen extraordinary engineers k-lined who had no disagreement with you. No Fear Lilo Ol' Friend. We've got our own network where we can talk without your eavesdropping and nagging /msg's when something rubs you the
wrong way. Which seems to be everything from you're ol' lady, to your ex-employers,
to people you tried to bully, cajole, while
begging for money or other favors using the IRC.
In anycase... This is boring. I've got real work to do. Enough of wasting time on a long retired topic.
As to items 1). Secure all servers. You're telling me they're not? *GASP* Heaven Forbid. 2). License ISPs. Make ISPs accountable? You're telling me their NOT? 3). Make Spoofed packets illegal? But, what about the legitimate use of a spoofed packet lets say for example by a FRAD programatically using probability to determine a session partner is heavily loaded spoofs a packet on its partners behalf to reset the ttl along a route. *GASP* You can do this? 4). Authenticate everything? You mean we dont make reasonable attempts? 5). Criminalize all scanning including pings and probes. And lets defeat other diagnostics such as tcpdump, traceroute, and the application of technologically sophisticated devices used as an assist to locate, isolate, determine and prevent problems before they become problems. Lets burn all the protocol analyzers. Lets do away with other tools such as nmap which make it very easy to thouroughly self-test the integrity of our networks. Hey... While we're at it. Lets forget all about this freedom and democracy noise. Voting for presidents and legislators who help to promote and work to make liberty and justice a reality and not just a pretty notion. Yea... thats it. Back to the good ol' days with Nikita encouraging nuclear war, economies and forms of government that had no clear chance of succeeding. Lets just toss our freedom and be equal to you. Small minded little drones who sing the song along company lines... Heaven forbid a creative thought.
While I'm not an advocate of temper tantrums or pushing an entire group when your target is an individual, his or her business, wallet, pocket- book, whatever... The IRC has proven itself primed for Denial Of Service Attacks for more years then I care to think about. Combine that with Ron Levin's Anal Retentive behavior exasserbated by his delusions exasserbated yet again by his history and misbehaving OPN as well as his infuriating antics on the networks which preceeded OPN; I have to wonder why anyone is surprised. Furthermore... What kinda of network administrator cant divert an OC12 DOS into the bit bucket before it affects the host. I'm not saying its right. I see it happen constantly. Any network admin worth his/her salt knows how to divert the attach upstream falling back to any of 1 or more redundant backbones to the net. Perhaps you should speak to me about implementing a network that addresses the very issues you react to as opposed to anticipating, planning for, and are prepared to manage proactively. You bet... I can route that DOS into the bit bucket before my dual 7513s begin to feel the pain. Why is OPN a target? I've read the posts from beginning to end. I hear nothing but hearsay, inuendo, a bit of sarcasm along with a bit of humor. Just visit opn and #linpeople. Its easy to see why anyone from 7 to 70 or better might wish to beat #linpeople into oblivion. I read no proof that makes me believe with any moral certainty that 1). This is a kid or a dolt with destructive tendencies. 2). I have no reason to believe that these are DOS attacks at all. For all the evidence presented thus far... this could be inompetant administration complicated by a corporate IT move. Before "Community People" slips my mind again... Forgive me for asking... BUT, wtf is a community people? Are you folks in Silicon Valley back living in communitives of participants living in network ready Community Caves? Enough of this noise. The polls are about to close in Hawaii. The next president is more interesting then this noise. Cheers, S.L.Wicked