I think that companies (management) should be held liable for poor quality of the software they produce. How each individual company distributes that liability internally is completely up to them. So whether you want to work for a company that holds its developers financially and legally liable is completely up to you. My guess is that that such companies would quickly go out of business.
I work in the telecommunications industry managing (first line - still a pawn) a sizable team of software designers. If one of my designers creates a security hole which is subsequently successfully hacked, it could mean that 911 services go down somewhere and someone unnecessarily dies. That being said, a bug in our software typically means that someone somewhere can't download their porn.
Here's how the process (for me) works: 1) Customer sees a need for new functionality and communicates that to the company 2) Request goes to Product Line Management and they get R&D involved for some preliminary time and cost estimates 3) PLM then squeezes the timeline and passes on the date to management 4) Management squeezes the timeline again and passes it back to the customer 5) Customer then requests a reduced cost and an even earlier delivery date 6) Management agrees to terms 7) R&D is stuck developing a release in 1/3 time it takes to develop properly
Also, the code base is millions of lines of disjointed code that are very difficult to manage effectively.
In order to devliver software under these conditions, we depend on heroics from our developers... they're definitely overworked, but not underpayed. We also have to cut corners by only performing specific targeted testing. In the end, our products have their fair share of bugs, and some of those bugs could be catastrophic. However, that's what the customer negotiated and paid for, so that's what they got!
Everyone of my designers would like to produce better software (not perfect - that's impossible). They're just not afforded that privilege by management and customers. So do I think software developers should held responsible? Hell no... they should learn from their mistakes, but holding them financially and legally responsible means it will take 10 times longer to develop software.
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I think that companies (management) should be held liable for poor quality of the software they produce. How each individual company distributes that liability internally is completely up to them. So whether you want to work for a company that holds its developers financially and legally liable is completely up to you. My guess is that that such companies would quickly go out of business.
I work in the telecommunications industry managing (first line - still a pawn) a sizable team of software designers. If one of my designers creates a security hole which is subsequently successfully hacked, it could mean that 911 services go down somewhere and someone unnecessarily dies. That being said, a bug in our software typically means that someone somewhere can't download their porn.
Here's how the process (for me) works:
1) Customer sees a need for new functionality and communicates that to the company
2) Request goes to Product Line Management and they get R&D involved for some preliminary time and cost estimates
3) PLM then squeezes the timeline and passes on the date to management
4) Management squeezes the timeline again and passes it back to the customer
5) Customer then requests a reduced cost and an even earlier delivery date
6) Management agrees to terms
7) R&D is stuck developing a release in 1/3 time it takes to develop properly
Also, the code base is millions of lines of disjointed code that are very difficult to manage effectively.
In order to devliver software under these conditions, we depend on heroics from our developers... they're definitely overworked, but not underpayed. We also have to cut corners by only performing specific targeted testing. In the end, our products have their fair share of bugs, and some of those bugs could be catastrophic. However, that's what the customer negotiated and paid for, so that's what they got!
Everyone of my designers would like to produce better software (not perfect - that's impossible). They're just not afforded that privilege by management and customers. So do I think software developers should held responsible? Hell no... they should learn from their mistakes, but holding them financially and legally responsible means it will take 10 times longer to develop software.