you don't think there is a case defending parents who teach their children to respect education and require nothing in return for receiving it??
i think the pink elephant creating all the negative moderation is the knowledge that such a parent with such ability to develop such strong ethical stances would never let their child attend a school that saw this program as necessary... so it really doesn't matter.
most parents and the slashdot community also seem to think it's perfectly acceptable to bribe children to do their coursework.... i suggested otherwise and was moderated into "karma: terrible" land.
being a parent is just as big a responsibility as being a child which is just as big a responsibility as being an educator... but much like the 3 branches of america's federal government, everyone would rather defer their responsibility and sit back and see what they can get from everyone else first. it's sickening.
side note: i think jail time is in order for many people in this case, but sex offender registry is a reaching.
you know what else works short term to get children to do what you ask of them? beating them. some parents are for it, some against... if you don't let the parents make the decision, then our society is broken.
if you're a teacher and you can't motivate a child to listen to what you're saying and do what you ask of them, THEN YOU ARE A HORRIBLE TEACHER. trust me.
should these questions be left to be answered and executed in private by the parents of kids?
yes.
so here is the main response to this: "some parents can't afford it, so they don't have the chance to be able to do it, and their children deserve to have the chance of receiving cash compensation."
but what you're failing to understand is that some parents choose to instill a work ethic using means that don't require cash compensation... if these cash compensation bribe programs become ubiquitous, you are denying the parents who are well off enough to provide cash compensation, but choose not to, to reward their children using means they see fit.
show me the numbers on stable parents that don't want this program and broke parents that do.
it doesn't matter what the system places value on when the teachers are not skilled enough or too lazy to motivate the children in any other way than giving them cash.
there was a still a test to "prove" the child had read the book. you don't think cheating will run rampant in an age of bluetooth when motivational sizes of money are at stake?
we've already instilled the idea that work ethic is not about pride, so why have pride about not being a cheat? what's next, paying kids to not cheat, and proving it by asking them if they cheated? then what, paying them to not lie?
cash incentives in schools are 100% the result of lazy educators who are bad at their jobs. when children don't do what is asked of them, the system has already failed. shame on the teachers.
not all children responded to the cash incentive program... if you're making this about the unfortunate few, you've failed to understand that you did nothing to eliminate them, and perhaps at the cost of high performing students who didn't require extra motivation and now equate work ethic with cash compensation.
this isn't about using a VCR, it's about setting a tuner to a specific channel signal on a schedule... a very useful feature for anyone utilizing any 3rd party product that utilizes the signal. the boxes were already capable of doing this, and programmed to do so... disabling the feature deliberately breaks the functionality of the 3rd party products and violates the trust of the consumer and 3rd party manufacturers.
IP addresses are as simple as that... THEY ARE ADDRESSES. they are no more complex a subject than the address everyone's home utilizes. Yes, they are something that everybody using the internet could be expected to know about.
you obviously wouldn't have received any of these bonuses if they were around when/if you went to school.
if work ethic becomes based on something, and that something is based on nothing, then using the formal transitive property of logic, the work ethic is also based on nothing.
so what's your point? it's reasonable that society expects things, so that means they should be forced to pay extra for it, or shouldn't be forced to pay extra for it?
there have been many programs exactly like this one. they all claim success.
in my opinion, they have all admitted failure by requiring an outside source for motivation. i expect rampant cheating and teachers taking cuts of the bonuses in exchange for higher grades.
people in paying jobs who don't produce lose the option of continuing their paying job.
a child who is paid for letter grades in school, by the school, and does not produce is not punished in any way.
i'd much rather see a system that kept an account for all children that wasn't paid until graduation, and if you ever received a D the money in the account was cut by half. if you ever received an F the money was wiped out, and if you ever got a C, you wouldn't receive any new money for that grading cycle.
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school supplies makes a lot of sense...
are qualified teachers extinct?
i think the pink elephant creating all the negative moderation is the knowledge that such a parent with such ability to develop such strong ethical stances would never let their child attend a school that saw this program as necessary... so it really doesn't matter.
being a parent is just as big a responsibility as being a child which is just as big a responsibility as being an educator... but much like the 3 branches of america's federal government, everyone would rather defer their responsibility and sit back and see what they can get from everyone else first. it's sickening.
side note: i think jail time is in order for many people in this case, but sex offender registry is a reaching.
if you want the cartoons, get an android phone or access them over the web.
you know what else works short term to get children to do what you ask of them? beating them. some parents are for it, some against... if you don't let the parents make the decision, then our society is broken.
if you're a teacher and you can't motivate a child to listen to what you're saying and do what you ask of them, THEN YOU ARE A HORRIBLE TEACHER. trust me.
go ahead and remember that for yourself.
should these questions be left to be answered and executed in private by the parents of kids?
yes.
so here is the main response to this: "some parents can't afford it, so they don't have the chance to be able to do it, and their children deserve to have the chance of receiving cash compensation."
but what you're failing to understand is that some parents choose to instill a work ethic using means that don't require cash compensation... if these cash compensation bribe programs become ubiquitous, you are denying the parents who are well off enough to provide cash compensation, but choose not to, to reward their children using means they see fit.
show me the numbers on stable parents that don't want this program and broke parents that do.
YOU ARE TEACHERS. THEY ARE STUDENTS. DO YOUR JOB.
we've already instilled the idea that work ethic is not about pride, so why have pride about not being a cheat? what's next, paying kids to not cheat, and proving it by asking them if they cheated? then what, paying them to not lie?
cash incentives in schools are 100% the result of lazy educators who are bad at their jobs. when children don't do what is asked of them, the system has already failed. shame on the teachers.
you clowns still can't even pretend to understand that education is not optional work... if you don't want it, it's a free country. do what you like.
not all children responded to the cash incentive program... if you're making this about the unfortunate few, you've failed to understand that you did nothing to eliminate them, and perhaps at the cost of high performing students who didn't require extra motivation and now equate work ethic with cash compensation.
this isn't about using a VCR, it's about setting a tuner to a specific channel signal on a schedule... a very useful feature for anyone utilizing any 3rd party product that utilizes the signal. the boxes were already capable of doing this, and programmed to do so... disabling the feature deliberately breaks the functionality of the 3rd party products and violates the trust of the consumer and 3rd party manufacturers.
a child who is paid for letter grades in school, by the school, and does not produce is not punished in any way.
Sure they are. If you don't produce the A then you don't get money for the A.
how is not getting free money for not excelling in a free curriculum in any way a form of punishment?
IP addresses are as simple as that... THEY ARE ADDRESSES. they are no more complex a subject than the address everyone's home utilizes. Yes, they are something that everybody using the internet could be expected to know about.
That will simply end badly.
so then we can agree that any system that infuses money into the equation of education will also end badly.
if work ethic becomes based on something, and that something is based on nothing, then using the formal transitive property of logic, the work ethic is also based on nothing.
so what's your point? it's reasonable that society expects things, so that means they should be forced to pay extra for it, or shouldn't be forced to pay extra for it?
of course crack dealers don't make a lot of money. how many crack heads do you know?
in my opinion, they have all admitted failure by requiring an outside source for motivation. i expect rampant cheating and teachers taking cuts of the bonuses in exchange for higher grades.
the long term effects of paying children money for marks in school is not clear, and in many ways seemingly dangerous.
a child who is paid for letter grades in school, by the school, and does not produce is not punished in any way.
i'd much rather see a system that kept an account for all children that wasn't paid until graduation, and if you ever received a D the money in the account was cut by half. if you ever received an F the money was wiped out, and if you ever got a C, you wouldn't receive any new money for that grading cycle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic
do you have the marijuana profit numbers for suburban ohio?
betterment should never be defined in getting the same for less relative to a fiat currency.
so you think the world is fair?