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But I think you are confusing with point with automatic rights "to" something vs directly excluded rights "from" something.
Why not release it completely unencumbered by any license? Something that would allow anyone's project to use it. I'm not even talking BSD license here, totally unencumbered: you want to slap a new license on it, do it; you want to give out copies of it on a street corder, do it; you want to print it on billboards, do it; you want to use it inside something, do it.
In the 4 years from 2001-2005 Nintendo sold around 20million units *total* of gamecube. You are insane to think that in less than a years time that they will sell out half of that number to a single country.
If you actually critically think about it, all proprietary software companies are forking over dough (via taxes). They paid for it, but are not allowed to use it in ways that actually give them a return.
I think you are missing the point of the word "license", in that instead of selling you the product; you are agreeing to only license the software. You don't ever get ownership rights, the original company retains not only copyright but the actual ownership of the copy that you are using. A license can have any sort of restriction on useage (can't be used on Mondays and months with 30 days); that's why the originator was talking about the equivalent shrink-wrap license being involved as a license that you'd have to agree to be bound by the specific rules of that individual license.
With Netapp you can resell the physical item, but you don't have ownership of the software to run the physical item so you can't transfer the software with the hardware, making it kind of useless (unless you get the contract written at purchase so you can transfer the license to someone else, which they sometimes will do begrundgingly)
Actually that's a bit wrong, unless if you are thinking the good old days were 5-7 years ago. Companies wouldn't go public unless they had a real reason to, many of them spending years prior to going public. Going public has so many difficulties that it's often the last thing a traditional company wants to do (i.e. old stogey companies, rather than dot-com). Often when they have reached a place where to grow the business to the next level and they need an injection of cash they do it, or more often when they grow to over 500 or so employees and have basically the same filing requirements and restrictions as a public company that they go and do it.
Ford went public in 1956 decades after putting out the model A,T, etc Apple release the Apple II, ~3 years before going public
Check the wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_company The norm is for new companies, which are typically small, to be privately owned. After a number of years, if a company has grown significantly and is profitable, or has promising prospects, there is often an initial public offering and the company becomes public.
Actually they don't deny it, they do deny they'll put the technology into the PS3 to prevent disks from running. But I didn't see anywhere where it said that they wouldn't have a click-through license and make it illegal to resell. Kind of like how NetApp won't let you resell the license to their software if you sell the hardware (kind of makes it pointless to have a piece of proprietary NAS hardware that you don't have any license to run NFS/CIFS/etc on)
Oracle is the WORST on any platform, I don't know what kind of crazy-land they live in, but even the headless unix versions require all sorts of graphic libraries to do the install. We couldn't go to a newer version of Redhat for a long time not because of the kernel, etc but because of the installer graphic libraries would work; people were shoe-horning it on boxes just to get around the sole problem of the installer!
Which part of what I said made you think I was talking about text size? The whole vision problems thing
Still making the same claim, the difference between 540p & 1080i (on a computer monitor) is basically refresh rate, on is at 30hz the other at 60hz. Which ultimately gives you the same number of visible lines on screen at any time, p gives a nicer cleaner edge, i a greater depth of colors, etc. The reason why I mentioned 540p is that monitors that can do 1920x1080 @ 30hz aren't quite the widest spread, so I suggest using the visual equivalent or 960x540 @ 60hz, so you can try doing it on equipment that can support it.
As to whether the market place thinks it's worth it or not where is the plethora of TV's 30" that support HDTV resolutions? (there are the little LCD displays that do, but they are more of a rebranded computer monitor than anything else, and they don't really run native HDTV res they down res it to most often XGA). Is there a 19" TV that actually supports true native HDTV resolutions, seen a bunch offer HD-ready, but they don't actually run it and in fact scale it down.
Going from memory... a windows guy told me something like 3 years ago, the filesystem that got removed from vista was supposed to be like that. A database with rolling forward and rolling backward capability. I also think reiser might have a plugin or one has been proposed for something like that.
I think you have a missunderstanding of what 480p & 1080i/p mean. It's not about how big the lettering is on your display, it's about displayed lines; which from what you said is obviously what you are thinking. How at 640x480 icons and text get huge, again that's not what it's about. Play the same video at 640x480 & 960x540 (the equivalent 480p & 540p timings) and see if it's a massive, stunning difference.
A 480p displayed video and a 540p/1080i displayed video will not have massive differences between the two on a small display. It's not just my opinion either, go ask the people at avsforum and see if it's worth the investment, like me they'll say there is a difference but like me they'll say the benefit is just not there. I've seen the threads there, I know and they've been asked over and over through the years (I've also pulled from firewire HD signal and displayed it at both 480p & 1080i on a small TV... not much difference).
Perms don't solve a thing, I've been harping on this point for quite a while now. If my dissertation I've been working on for a number of years suddenly goes, the fact that my/etc/hosts file is still there doesn't mean anything, only my files are important to me. This is the part everybody misses, and actually every OS has (windows had a much better file permissions model than linux has had for years, but for a while now most Linux filesystems have some form of extended ACL's) the only problem is that people hardly ever use them on any OS for their personal computer.
Again simple permissions do resolve this problem, as if I'm the only user of my laptop; if I'm logged in as myself (not root, administrator, etc) and all my work get's deleted having an OS doesn't do me any good.... unless all you expect from a computer is to look at it and not do any work.
I think you missunderstood me, you really won't notice a wopping eye-dropping difference between 480p on a 19" monitor compared to 1080p on a 19" monitor, nor will the earth shatter between a 19" TV with NTSC 480p compared to HDTV 1080i (I'm going to have to assume no-one's been crazy enough to put 1080p in a 19" TV). There's allways going to be a difference, but the law of diminishing returns kicks in. The cost benefit of HDTV on a 19" TV just isn't there, as unless you are 6" away from the screen you are losing detail quickly. Now compare 480p to 1080p on a 65"+ display you are going to notice a BIG difference, and that's why I say HDTV in a 30" TV isn't worth it the perceptable difference between 480p & 1080i (or 720/540p) on a TV that small makes it cost ineffective.
So what would be the the design around "rm -r / tmp/mytempdir" or prevention of "dd if=/tmp/floppy.img of=/dev/", etc adnaseum. Stupid users will ALLWAYS find a way to screw themselves, in preventing them Apple is probably the best, Windows is poor in that most of the time it let's you know something unfortunately often with a cryptic message with the "OK" button as the default, but unix derivatives are pretty much the worst in that it won't warn you, tell you or prevent you from a simple typo killing your system.
As long as your monitor supports 1920x1080i or p resolution you can run it, few inexpensive monitors run that res natively (been changing), or then do something like run it in 960x540p instead (kind of equivalent, 1080i is better for colors and depth of display the 540p would be better for fast movement; of course 1080p is better than both). But really what's the point of running HD games on a display that you really won't notice much of a difference. HD really becomes a moot point on 30" displays and below, what's it's really about is on big displays removing the blockyness, etc. The average computer display or kids 19" bedroom TV even taking a full HD input really won't get you that much of a kick up over regular NTSC.
Umm... again you are avoiding the topic, trying to make it some left/right thing; NEXT TIME AT LEAST TALK ABOUT THE TOPIC AT HAND.
Look at the front page, your beloved FCC you've been praising is forcing VOIP forms to open up their networks for mandatory snooping. You still on their bandwagon? It looks like you jumped off the Sony/DRM bandwagon after I showed you how you were completely incorrect on legislation. You should just stop here, because all you've got left is left/right kindergarten namecalling. You are older than 3 aren't you?
If it's accounting ledger's 6 months after the launch the meassure we are putting on them, than I've got to say that PS3 will be absolutely horrible as Sony made a public statement their games division this year alone was going to cost getting near a BILLION dollars (that does not include years past development expenses). If that's the measure I think all three console makers are going down for a failure.
Well, now you are going anonymous (come on now, a thread from days and days ago and someone "new" just happens to pop in, you are only fooling yourself here) and instead of addressing any points you go on a personal attack; true sign of a desparate person clinging onto an incorrect point who no longer has any reasonable recourse but to drop to kindergarten name calling.
I again like the touch that last time you were calling me a neocon, now you are trying to call me a libertarian. I do have some feigning interest (purely comedic) in what are you going to try and call me next to try and divert from how truely incorrect you've been.
Again I say the government just doesn't get it when it comes to creating reasonable technology regulation. They have been fairly inept at writing legislation that is "tight" enough, to prevent spillage outside of it's original intent.
1) Read what I posted, your quote has absolutely nothing to do with what I said. You are completely doing a strawman here.
2) Again read what I posted than read it a second time, of course you obviously don't get it when I say that building is different than imposing restrictions. I've not wavered from that statement they are two different things; and you are trying to apply crazy-world linking to it that again doesn't work.
3) Again read and again strawman, quote where I say evil. Print it, if not than you are doing an exageration. And a way insane one, this one is so blatently bad that I think you would even disagree with it if you read it a second time.
4) Wow, just wow... why don't you re-read what you posted. Talk about grasping for a bunches of fallacy laced brass rings. There is no doubt that voting with votes or dollars makes change, there is no doubt of that. But the past has shown time and time again that in technology the freemarket responds to people much beter than government regulations. Government regulations DIDN'T stop sony, PEOPLE did (actually the media more than anything else). You keep saying it, but let's see where the goverment did about... any new legislation specific to that passed??? Sony did get a good slapping by the EFF, but there is NO statement about preventing them from using the DRM you mentioned the "government" is protecting you from (which again they aren't)
5) I don't see why you are thinking those two have any relation two each other. Prove to me that they have a reasonable connection. You made the supposition from left field, now back it up that those two are interrelated. I don't really need to get out the dictionary and recite the definition of regulation do I? Because you keep on trying to add this left-field stuff into it, trying to put words into my mouth and trying to make crazed ties that have nothing to do with the topic of the government regulating technology. What's even better is that the goverment still hasn't outlawed Sony rootkits, they haven't put regulation in place preventing them at all.
You still haven't proven to me that government regulation of technology has helped more than hindered the common person. Why don't you go ahead and start listing them, I'm fairly positive my list would be longer than yours.
As to the whole crashing your hardware STRAWMAN, give it up, you'd have to be a three year old to fall for that. I don't fall for stupid fallacies and I'm tired of your high-school level of intelligence. Here why don't you look up the dozen or so (I actually stopped counting them, seriously you are that bad) of these you've broken over here and come back when you can put up and argument that is reasonable http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/index.htm l#index
Oh, and the whole neocon thing was a perfect example of the intellect level that you are playing at, so anybody and everbody can see the level of schooling you have.
1) You haven't proved it is any worse, and what you are asking for: government mandated records keeping procedures... well how exactly do you think that will turn out? Again look at past history and tell me if you believe that the government will possibly be able to do anything at all better?
2) You aren't so childish to understand the HUGE, MASSIVE difference between creating the internet and sending it on it's merry little way basically leaving it to the public. And going through and installing basillions of regulations on it after it's in widespread use don't you?
3) And??? While we are just throwing out random complete strawman crap, let me play too. If it weren't for the FCC they wouldn't be in any position to try and argue that VOIP should be under government wiretap regulations. And in 2005 put in regulations to force VOIP providers to provide wire tapping capabilities upon request.
4) This directly contradicts what you say in #5, in #5 you say that polititicians were bought overiding the will of the people, but in #4 you say the people allways have the power. Which is it?
To respond to your contradicted point... The most power anyone has over a company is $$$, it has more power than even voting. You vote with your dollars, companies respond to $$$ walking; history has shown time and time again that the government doesn't understand technology and couldn't draft a bill to "protect" it's people under any circumstances. It just doesn't work that way, I just don't know why you seem to live in lala unicorn land, dancing with bunnies and the government can write properly crafted technology bills; but go back and look.
5) Addressing your jumbled points: Again you seem to forget who put in against that stuff.... well it wasn't just crazy extremists. Well look it was Lieberman, Clinton (both of them), etc. Hillary Clinton and Tipper Gore have had a boner for regulation against violence and sex way before they were even thinking of being involved with campaigns for the presidential office. Where is the goverment regulation against palladium, list US the regulations against it, or please list the US goverment statements that they would get involved with it. In fact I'd say quite the contrary to what you are saying the government with it's horrible legislative skills is trying to regulate in palladium. Government mandated broadcast flag, it got turned down over a technicality and it's coming back. Broadcast flag only allowed certain equipment the capability to view signals... the only OS that has that capability is Windows with vista and it's secured hardware requirements (i.e. palladium). So instead of the government threatening Microsoft, they will put in legislation that shows how technically unaware that will lock Linux out of the market, because they want to try and "help".
The government started a good thing, but almost always when the government trys to "help" in technology with regulation they only fuck it up much worse.
It's not a right/left wing thing, it's a past history. The best thing that happened to the internet was that the government DIDN'T get involved. When the government gets involved we get CDA, Son of CDA, clipper chip, DMCA, google-porn fiasco, etc. Those were things that for the most part had some original good little nugget and now looking back you can see how they were implemented.
I have absolutely no belief that the government, filled with lawyers, traditional business ment, etc would be able to ever come close to drafting something technical that would be specific to deal with the issue properly. What's more, the whole start of this lately didn't come from anything in the US, it all came from foreign companies and quite often their government controlled/funded telcos; which wouldn't apply to them. We wouldn't fix the problem, and we'd basically let the FCC (which has proven to us time and time again that it works so well... not) wreck havoc all over that sector. Taking the power out of the consumers hands, giving it to the government, coupled with it's trackrecord of controlling technology and still being for giving this power to the government is insanity at it's best.
In the last few years only 1 case for perjury in the entire nation has been filed.
Before making outlandish claims, maybe you should "think" first. Without even looking anything up, Little Kim & Martha Stewart cases happened in the past few years. Will your next claim be that only celebrities have been charged with perjury over the last years.
Microsoft's patch was already done way before Linus's, being the forward thinkers they are they made sure to be in front of the "make sure to get infected" chess game. Linus had to play catchup with this patch to make sure it Linux continues to get infected.
Dude you truely have blinders on don't you... you are one biggoted bastard (look up definition of a bigot). READ WHAT I WRITE, you obviously THINK you can read, now do it. If you were to read what I post rather than look through your hate filled bigot eyes you'd see that I call both parties on the table. That both parties act that way, maybe you are too stupid to look more than a few years back, maybe you are so young that you only live in the now, maybe you are destined to repeat all the failures; while I am looking at yesterday, today, and tomorrow. You have some notion that all I say is clinton this and clinton that, READ MY POSTS, READ THEM YOU STUPID IDIOT.
It's becoming very, very obvious that you are a clinton apologist where I've only shown that I apologize for neither bush or clinton, and complain about them both. (FYI: this post is the first time I ever mentioned clinton, but you obviously can't read)
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But I think you are confusing with point with automatic rights "to" something vs directly excluded rights "from" something.
Why not release it completely unencumbered by any license? Something that would allow anyone's project to use it. I'm not even talking BSD license here, totally unencumbered: you want to slap a new license on it, do it; you want to give out copies of it on a street corder, do it; you want to print it on billboards, do it; you want to use it inside something, do it.
In the 4 years from 2001-2005 Nintendo sold around 20million units *total* of gamecube. You are insane to think that in less than a years time that they will sell out half of that number to a single country.
If you actually critically think about it, all proprietary software companies are forking over dough (via taxes). They paid for it, but are not allowed to use it in ways that actually give them a return.
I think you are missing the point of the word "license", in that instead of selling you the product; you are agreeing to only license the software. You don't ever get ownership rights, the original company retains not only copyright but the actual ownership of the copy that you are using. A license can have any sort of restriction on useage (can't be used on Mondays and months with 30 days); that's why the originator was talking about the equivalent shrink-wrap license being involved as a license that you'd have to agree to be bound by the specific rules of that individual license.
With Netapp you can resell the physical item, but you don't have ownership of the software to run the physical item so you can't transfer the software with the hardware, making it kind of useless (unless you get the contract written at purchase so you can transfer the license to someone else, which they sometimes will do begrundgingly)
Actually that's a bit wrong, unless if you are thinking the good old days were 5-7 years ago. Companies wouldn't go public unless they had a real reason to, many of them spending years prior to going public. Going public has so many difficulties that it's often the last thing a traditional company wants to do (i.e. old stogey companies, rather than dot-com). Often when they have reached a place where to grow the business to the next level and they need an injection of cash they do it, or more often when they grow to over 500 or so employees and have basically the same filing requirements and restrictions as a public company that they go and do it.
Ford went public in 1956 decades after putting out the model A,T, etc
Apple release the Apple II, ~3 years before going public
Check the wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_company
The norm is for new companies, which are typically small, to be privately owned. After a number of years, if a company has grown significantly and is profitable, or has promising prospects, there is often an initial public offering and the company becomes public.
Actually they don't deny it, they do deny they'll put the technology into the PS3 to prevent disks from running. But I didn't see anywhere where it said that they wouldn't have a click-through license and make it illegal to resell. Kind of like how NetApp won't let you resell the license to their software if you sell the hardware (kind of makes it pointless to have a piece of proprietary NAS hardware that you don't have any license to run NFS/CIFS/etc on)
Oracle is the WORST on any platform, I don't know what kind of crazy-land they live in, but even the headless unix versions require all sorts of graphic libraries to do the install. We couldn't go to a newer version of Redhat for a long time not because of the kernel, etc but because of the installer graphic libraries would work; people were shoe-horning it on boxes just to get around the sole problem of the installer!
Which part of what I said made you think I was talking about text size?
The whole vision problems thing
Still making the same claim, the difference between 540p & 1080i (on a computer monitor) is basically refresh rate, on is at 30hz the other at 60hz. Which ultimately gives you the same number of visible lines on screen at any time, p gives a nicer cleaner edge, i a greater depth of colors, etc. The reason why I mentioned 540p is that monitors that can do 1920x1080 @ 30hz aren't quite the widest spread, so I suggest using the visual equivalent or 960x540 @ 60hz, so you can try doing it on equipment that can support it.
As to whether the market place thinks it's worth it or not where is the plethora of TV's 30" that support HDTV resolutions? (there are the little LCD displays that do, but they are more of a rebranded computer monitor than anything else, and they don't really run native HDTV res they down res it to most often XGA). Is there a 19" TV that actually supports true native HDTV resolutions, seen a bunch offer HD-ready, but they don't actually run it and in fact scale it down.
Going from memory... a windows guy told me something like 3 years ago, the filesystem that got removed from vista was supposed to be like that. A database with rolling forward and rolling backward capability. I also think reiser might have a plugin or one has been proposed for something like that.
I think you have a missunderstanding of what 480p & 1080i/p mean. It's not about how big the lettering is on your display, it's about displayed lines; which from what you said is obviously what you are thinking. How at 640x480 icons and text get huge, again that's not what it's about. Play the same video at 640x480 & 960x540 (the equivalent 480p & 540p timings) and see if it's a massive, stunning difference.
A 480p displayed video and a 540p/1080i displayed video will not have massive differences between the two on a small display. It's not just my opinion either, go ask the people at avsforum and see if it's worth the investment, like me they'll say there is a difference but like me they'll say the benefit is just not there. I've seen the threads there, I know and they've been asked over and over through the years (I've also pulled from firewire HD signal and displayed it at both 480p & 1080i on a small TV... not much difference).
Perms don't solve a thing, I've been harping on this point for quite a while now. If my dissertation I've been working on for a number of years suddenly goes, the fact that my /etc/hosts file is still there doesn't mean anything, only my files are important to me. This is the part everybody misses, and actually every OS has (windows had a much better file permissions model than linux has had for years, but for a while now most Linux filesystems have some form of extended ACL's) the only problem is that people hardly ever use them on any OS for their personal computer.
Again simple permissions do resolve this problem, as if I'm the only user of my laptop; if I'm logged in as myself (not root, administrator, etc) and all my work get's deleted having an OS doesn't do me any good.... unless all you expect from a computer is to look at it and not do any work.
I think you missunderstood me, you really won't notice a wopping eye-dropping difference between 480p on a 19" monitor compared to 1080p on a 19" monitor, nor will the earth shatter between a 19" TV with NTSC 480p compared to HDTV 1080i (I'm going to have to assume no-one's been crazy enough to put 1080p in a 19" TV). There's allways going to be a difference, but the law of diminishing returns kicks in. The cost benefit of HDTV on a 19" TV just isn't there, as unless you are 6" away from the screen you are losing detail quickly. Now compare 480p to 1080p on a 65"+ display you are going to notice a BIG difference, and that's why I say HDTV in a 30" TV isn't worth it the perceptable difference between 480p & 1080i (or 720/540p) on a TV that small makes it cost ineffective.
So what would be the the design around "rm -r / tmp/mytempdir" or prevention of "dd if=/tmp/floppy.img of=/dev/", etc adnaseum. Stupid users will ALLWAYS find a way to screw themselves, in preventing them Apple is probably the best, Windows is poor in that most of the time it let's you know something unfortunately often with a cryptic message with the "OK" button as the default, but unix derivatives are pretty much the worst in that it won't warn you, tell you or prevent you from a simple typo killing your system.
As long as your monitor supports 1920x1080i or p resolution you can run it, few inexpensive monitors run that res natively (been changing), or then do something like run it in 960x540p instead (kind of equivalent, 1080i is better for colors and depth of display the 540p would be better for fast movement; of course 1080p is better than both). But really what's the point of running HD games on a display that you really won't notice much of a difference. HD really becomes a moot point on 30" displays and below, what's it's really about is on big displays removing the blockyness, etc. The average computer display or kids 19" bedroom TV even taking a full HD input really won't get you that much of a kick up over regular NTSC.
Umm... again you are avoiding the topic, trying to make it some left/right thing; NEXT TIME AT LEAST TALK ABOUT THE TOPIC AT HAND.
Look at the front page, your beloved FCC you've been praising is forcing VOIP forms to open up their networks for mandatory snooping. You still on their bandwagon? It looks like you jumped off the Sony/DRM bandwagon after I showed you how you were completely incorrect on legislation. You should just stop here, because all you've got left is left/right kindergarten namecalling. You are older than 3 aren't you?
If it's accounting ledger's 6 months after the launch the meassure we are putting on them, than I've got to say that PS3 will be absolutely horrible as Sony made a public statement their games division this year alone was going to cost getting near a BILLION dollars (that does not include years past development expenses). If that's the measure I think all three console makers are going down for a failure.
Well, now you are going anonymous (come on now, a thread from days and days ago and someone "new" just happens to pop in, you are only fooling yourself here) and instead of addressing any points you go on a personal attack; true sign of a desparate person clinging onto an incorrect point who no longer has any reasonable recourse but to drop to kindergarten name calling.
I again like the touch that last time you were calling me a neocon, now you are trying to call me a libertarian. I do have some feigning interest (purely comedic) in what are you going to try and call me next to try and divert from how truely incorrect you've been.
Again I say the government just doesn't get it when it comes to creating reasonable technology regulation. They have been fairly inept at writing legislation that is "tight" enough, to prevent spillage outside of it's original intent.
1) Read what I posted, your quote has absolutely nothing to do with what I said. You are completely doing a strawman here.
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2) Again read what I posted than read it a second time, of course you obviously don't get it when I say that building is different than imposing restrictions. I've not wavered from that statement they are two different things; and you are trying to apply crazy-world linking to it that again doesn't work.
3) Again read and again strawman, quote where I say evil. Print it, if not than you are doing an exageration. And a way insane one, this one is so blatently bad that I think you would even disagree with it if you read it a second time.
4) Wow, just wow... why don't you re-read what you posted. Talk about grasping for a bunches of fallacy laced brass rings. There is no doubt that voting with votes or dollars makes change, there is no doubt of that. But the past has shown time and time again that in technology the freemarket responds to people much beter than government regulations. Government regulations DIDN'T stop sony, PEOPLE did (actually the media more than anything else). You keep saying it, but let's see where the goverment did about... any new legislation specific to that passed??? Sony did get a good slapping by the EFF, but there is NO statement about preventing them from using the DRM you mentioned the "government" is protecting you from (which again they aren't)
5) I don't see why you are thinking those two have any relation two each other. Prove to me that they have a reasonable connection. You made the supposition from left field, now back it up that those two are interrelated. I don't really need to get out the dictionary and recite the definition of regulation do I? Because you keep on trying to add this left-field stuff into it, trying to put words into my mouth and trying to make crazed ties that have nothing to do with the topic of the government regulating technology. What's even better is that the goverment still hasn't outlawed Sony rootkits, they haven't put regulation in place preventing them at all.
You still haven't proven to me that government regulation of technology has helped more than hindered the common person. Why don't you go ahead and start listing them, I'm fairly positive my list would be longer than yours.
As to the whole crashing your hardware STRAWMAN, give it up, you'd have to be a three year old to fall for that. I don't fall for stupid fallacies and I'm tired of your high-school level of intelligence. Here why don't you look up the dozen or so (I actually stopped counting them, seriously you are that bad) of these you've broken over here and come back when you can put up and argument that is reasonable http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/index.ht
Oh, and the whole neocon thing was a perfect example of the intellect level that you are playing at, so anybody and everbody can see the level of schooling you have.
1) You haven't proved it is any worse, and what you are asking for: government mandated records keeping procedures... well how exactly do you think that will turn out? Again look at past history and tell me if you believe that the government will possibly be able to do anything at all better?
2) You aren't so childish to understand the HUGE, MASSIVE difference between creating the internet and sending it on it's merry little way basically leaving it to the public. And going through and installing basillions of regulations on it after it's in widespread use don't you?
3) And??? While we are just throwing out random complete strawman crap, let me play too. If it weren't for the FCC they wouldn't be in any position to try and argue that VOIP should be under government wiretap regulations. And in 2005 put in regulations to force VOIP providers to provide wire tapping capabilities upon request.
4) This directly contradicts what you say in #5, in #5 you say that polititicians were bought overiding the will of the people, but in #4 you say the people allways have the power. Which is it?
To respond to your contradicted point... The most power anyone has over a company is $$$, it has more power than even voting. You vote with your dollars, companies respond to $$$ walking; history has shown time and time again that the government doesn't understand technology and couldn't draft a bill to "protect" it's people under any circumstances. It just doesn't work that way, I just don't know why you seem to live in lala unicorn land, dancing with bunnies and the government can write properly crafted technology bills; but go back and look.
5) Addressing your jumbled points: Again you seem to forget who put in against that stuff.... well it wasn't just crazy extremists. Well look it was Lieberman, Clinton (both of them), etc. Hillary Clinton and Tipper Gore have had a boner for regulation against violence and sex way before they were even thinking of being involved with campaigns for the presidential office. Where is the goverment regulation against palladium, list US the regulations against it, or please list the US goverment statements that they would get involved with it. In fact I'd say quite the contrary to what you are saying the government with it's horrible legislative skills is trying to regulate in palladium. Government mandated broadcast flag, it got turned down over a technicality and it's coming back. Broadcast flag only allowed certain equipment the capability to view signals... the only OS that has that capability is Windows with vista and it's secured hardware requirements (i.e. palladium). So instead of the government threatening Microsoft, they will put in legislation that shows how technically unaware that will lock Linux out of the market, because they want to try and "help".
The government started a good thing, but almost always when the government trys to "help" in technology with regulation they only fuck it up much worse.
It's not a right/left wing thing, it's a past history. The best thing that happened to the internet was that the government DIDN'T get involved. When the government gets involved we get CDA, Son of CDA, clipper chip, DMCA, google-porn fiasco, etc. Those were things that for the most part had some original good little nugget and now looking back you can see how they were implemented.
I have absolutely no belief that the government, filled with lawyers, traditional business ment, etc would be able to ever come close to drafting something technical that would be specific to deal with the issue properly. What's more, the whole start of this lately didn't come from anything in the US, it all came from foreign companies and quite often their government controlled/funded telcos; which wouldn't apply to them. We wouldn't fix the problem, and we'd basically let the FCC (which has proven to us time and time again that it works so well... not) wreck havoc all over that sector. Taking the power out of the consumers hands, giving it to the government, coupled with it's trackrecord of controlling technology and still being for giving this power to the government is insanity at it's best.
In the last few years only 1 case for perjury in the entire nation has been filed.
Before making outlandish claims, maybe you should "think" first. Without even looking anything up, Little Kim & Martha Stewart cases happened in the past few years. Will your next claim be that only celebrities have been charged with perjury over the last years.
Microsoft's patch was already done way before Linus's, being the forward thinkers they are they made sure to be in front of the "make sure to get infected" chess game. Linus had to play catchup with this patch to make sure it Linux continues to get infected.
If the linux kernel coder don't want their code in closed-source Microsoft Windows, they shouldn't put their work in a public place.
Dude you truely have blinders on don't you... you are one biggoted bastard (look up definition of a bigot). READ WHAT I WRITE, you obviously THINK you can read, now do it. If you were to read what I post rather than look through your hate filled bigot eyes you'd see that I call both parties on the table. That both parties act that way, maybe you are too stupid to look more than a few years back, maybe you are so young that you only live in the now, maybe you are destined to repeat all the failures; while I am looking at yesterday, today, and tomorrow. You have some notion that all I say is clinton this and clinton that, READ MY POSTS, READ THEM YOU STUPID IDIOT.
It's becoming very, very obvious that you are a clinton apologist where I've only shown that I apologize for neither bush or clinton, and complain about them both. (FYI: this post is the first time I ever mentioned clinton, but you obviously can't read)