How is a dual Athalon going to "trounce" a G5 when the 970's trounce a dual Xeon, which will trounce a dual Athalon? I wont argue that you can build a cheaper dual Athalon than buy a dual 970 from Apple, or that you might get more price/performance by going AMD, but trouncing the new Macs?...bullshit.
You are NOT being discriminated against just because the world isn't designed around your needs. Discrimination is a sign outside your store saying "No Niggers", not being a lefty and not being able to find any left handed scissors when you go to a grocery store.
Argue that it doesn't take to much effort to make a webpage handicapped accesible, argue that it will more closely adhere to standards if you do so, argue that it'll be good PR if your company makes an effort to help the blind, fine. But cry "discrimination" because the world isn't built around blind people? Piss off.
Microsoft makes a hardware platform. They raise the price of Windows to all the present manufacturers, while selling the hardware at or below cost, driving them out of business.
If there were other viable consumer operating systems for x86, this would be fine, but Be is gone and Linux has a long way to go. Be kept trying to have some OEM's ship BeOS with their computers, but were always denied because the way Microsoft licensed Windows. MS would give out discounts if *all* the computers you shipped had some version of Windows installed on it, and in the cut throat PC business you *had* to have those discounts to compete.
Or we can look at it this way. Because Apple killed off the clones years ago, it's ok for them to kill off software compnies now.
Its not that Apple is trying to stomp on small software developers, but these developers need to be realistic and not depend on a nitch in another company that they don't have control over. Cassidy & Green's greatest software product was arguably Confict Catcher, but they shouldn't depend on the flaws in somebody elses operating system for their own revenue. They had plenty of advance warning that OS X was comming, but either they couldn't or wouldn't plan for it.
They do not have to take advantage of these incentives, they choose to.
Sure, they can choose not to, but that would mean they'd go out of business. If Dell tells Microsoft where to go, Microsoft can charge them more for Windows. How then is Dell supposed to compete with HP and Gateway if their computers suddenly cost $100 more than one from its rivals with the same specs? So no, they *don't* have a choice if they want to stay in business, which is why MS is a monopoly.
I was commenting about the double standard around here, The bundled apps was just an example to make that point.
Apple does what they want with their own systems. Microsoft tells other companies what to do with their systems, a la Netscape. See the difference?
I don't see the DoItYourSelf superiority complex as being any better than the Mac superiority complex.:) That said, I've built all three of my computers from parts. The only time I'd consider getting an OEM PC is if I got a laptop.
Second CPU? Why do I need that? Last time I checked there weren't any games that take advantage of multi-processor systems.
Quake 3 has smp capability. And dual procs are nice if you're at a lan party - you can host a dedicated server and play on the same machine.
More to the point, is that I think its funny that whenever people talk about Apple, somebody points out that you can build a fast PC system yourself for less money, reveling in that incredibly insightful observation. I wonder if these same clever people sit around poo-pooing Dell and HP for selling a computer for more money than a do-it-yourselfer costs.
Read it again: "The G5 is impressive enough without cooking up any numbers or twisting any words." The jackass doesn't provide any justification other than the (now discredited) editorial that was linked from Slashdot earlier. Further, he bitches about Apple calling these personal computers rather than workstations, then makes hay out of the fact that the G5 wont be the first personal computer, because BOXX Technologies is shipping a dual Opteron. Except if you look at their site, they make high end systems for video editing, hardly "personal computers". They even call it a workstation.
There's good reporting in journalism, and then there's just being an asshole. Can you understand the difference?
So, you're saying this guy wasn't in the business of figuring out how to steal satellite TV?
Irrelevant. Unless you're Rudy Gulliani, you don't bash the person as a cop-out to a ridiculously harsh penalty. But fine then, so he was "in the business of figuring out how to steal satellite TV", prosecute him for that, not for lost business that will never be lost because none of the devices were made.
And, last I heard, "all those 'enemy combatants" totalled 3 people.
3 people being held without due process is 3 too many. And there are hundreds of others who aren't being called "enemy combatants" but have been locked up in secret without trials.
Remember Kevin Mitnick? Remember the 5 years in prison without even a bail hearing? Or how about all those "enemy combatants" being held captive without a hearing? Or that kid with the search engine who settled with the RIAA, even though they later said he didn't do anything wrong? Face it, unless you're rich and can offord great lawyers, a large corporation or the DOJ can screw you over but good. When you're in that position, its tempting to cut a deal.
You don't convict someone of capital murder no murder even took place. Thats why we charge them with conspiracy to commit murder or attempted murder. This guy didn't do the crime, therefore he shouldn't do the time. At worst they should be able to convict him of conspiracy to sell hacked devices. I hope his attorney is appealing.
Right, since Office and OpenOffice are the only two pieces of software that exist in the world, thus they are the only two that you have to worry about.
Radeon eh? In that case I would blame ATI rather than Microsoft, for writing crappy drivers. I have an AIW Radeon and the only os it will work with reliably is WinME.:(
Because you have to pay someone to support all this free stuff, and possibly retrain your staff. This can cost you more in time and money than by just sticking with whatever you're already using.
So 3 years. That's how long IBM supports software before forcing you to upgrade.
But is OS/390 their bread and butter operating system? I doubt it. A better comparison would be to find the oldest version of AIX that IBM has stopped supporting. I'm feeling lazy, and you are such a successful looker-upper of this stuff, I'll let you do it.:)
Okay, if I burn down your house, have I stolen it from you? I've taken "value away from someone else's property without compensating them for that loss". But wait, its not theft because nobody has your house anymore, its been burned to the ground. Thats why is called arson rather than stealing.
If there is no transfer of posession, there is no theft. Arson isn't theft because nobody has posession. Copyright infringment isn't theft, because there is no transfer of posession; the owner still has the origional item intact.
Further reasons why infringment is not theft: theft is concrete. If I break into Best Buy at night and steal 10 cd's of the latest boy band, that is a real world loss. Not only can they not sell those 10 copies to other customers, but they've lost the physical investment as well (cd pressing, shipping, storing etc). Whereas if I download the cd online and share it with 9 of my friends, they don't lose the physical investment, as they're still stitting in the store waiting to be sold. And of all those copies I made, it is extremely unlikely that all 10 of us would have bought the album instead. 10 losses of physical property and 10 lost sales versus no loss of physical property and 10 sales that "might" have been lost. Well there is no "maybe" with theft. Either I've stolen your car or I haven't. Either I shoplifted a game from Wal-Mart or I didn't.
Lastly, I say again: if this were actually theft by any stretch of the imagination, why isn't the RIAA having file traders prosecuted for it? Then they could bring them up on criminal charges as well as taking them to civil court.
No he isn't. Taking is removing, and if you are copying you aren't removing anything. If this really was theft, why doesn't the $IAA sue people for theft rather than copyright violations?
but stealing is stealing
...and copyright violations are copyright violations, and never shall the two meet because they are totally different things.
Who care about the lame games, how about the games people actually play...
Plenty of people play Quake 3, and a great many games are based on its engine. If your card performs well running Q3, its likely to also running Alice.
That, and nobody plays CS anymore (compared to what it used to be).:) Valve totally fucked it up with the 1.4 update. Rather than focusing on new maps or creating new mission types, they screwed around and completly changed the gameplay. Thats what beta periods are for.
I can't take anyone serious who spells Athlon as 'Athalon'.
Thats alright, I can't take asshole AC's seriously, either.
Also, did you stop to think that maybe he favored AMD then and Intel now because AMD had faster stuff then but Intel has faster stuff now?
There's comparing to see which is better and then there's selective comparing because you want one thing to look better than the other. Tom frequently does the latter, at least when it comes to CPU's. I'm not saying Tom is totally unbelievable, just that his reviews should be taken with a grain of salt.
Tom can be incredibly biased, depending on whoever is giving him more free stuff at the time. A couple years ago he was loudy proclaiming that there was no way that Intel could compete with AMD, and would end up exiting the microprocessor buisness. Things have changed though....look at any of his recent benchmarks comparing Athalons and P4's. For example, on all the ones I've seen, his game benchmark consists of Quake 3. If you didn't know, Quake 3 has always run much faster on P4's than on Athalons. If he wanted to be fair, he'd bench more games than that one; for example Serious Sam enjoys a similar advantage on Athalons.
Because they used an optimized Intel compiler for it, and Apple did not. There might be some dirt there if Apple had used a similarly optimized compiler from IBM while using gcc for the PC's, but they used gcc for both tests.
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He was the first president to put his foot down and stop the USSR.
I wont comment on the rest of your post, but maybe you've heard off the Cuban Missle Crisis?
needs to read "Reagans War".
I think you need to go out more and read some books that haven't come from Rush Limbaugh's book club.
You complain that people are unfairly attacking Reagen in one breath, then in the next you turn around and smear liberals? Fucking hypocrite.
Yeah, its a great thing we have a huge military so we aren't constantly being invaded like Australia and New Zealand have been.
How is a dual Athalon going to "trounce" a G5 when the 970's trounce a dual Xeon, which will trounce a dual Athalon? I wont argue that you can build a cheaper dual Athalon than buy a dual 970 from Apple, or that you might get more price/performance by going AMD, but trouncing the new Macs? ...bullshit.
You are NOT being discriminated against just because the world isn't designed around your needs. Discrimination is a sign outside your store saying "No Niggers", not being a lefty and not being able to find any left handed scissors when you go to a grocery store.
Argue that it doesn't take to much effort to make a webpage handicapped accesible, argue that it will more closely adhere to standards if you do so, argue that it'll be good PR if your company makes an effort to help the blind, fine. But cry "discrimination" because the world isn't built around blind people? Piss off.
Microsoft makes a hardware platform. They raise the price of Windows to all the present manufacturers, while selling the hardware at or below cost, driving them out of business.
If there were other viable consumer operating systems for x86, this would be fine, but Be is gone and Linux has a long way to go. Be kept trying to have some OEM's ship BeOS with their computers, but were always denied because the way Microsoft licensed Windows. MS would give out discounts if *all* the computers you shipped had some version of Windows installed on it, and in the cut throat PC business you *had* to have those discounts to compete.
Or we can look at it this way. Because Apple killed off the clones years ago, it's ok for them to kill off software compnies now.
Its not that Apple is trying to stomp on small software developers, but these developers need to be realistic and not depend on a nitch in another company that they don't have control over. Cassidy & Green's greatest software product was arguably Confict Catcher, but they shouldn't depend on the flaws in somebody elses operating system for their own revenue. They had plenty of advance warning that OS X was comming, but either they couldn't or wouldn't plan for it.
They do not have to take advantage of these incentives, they choose to.
Sure, they can choose not to, but that would mean they'd go out of business. If Dell tells Microsoft where to go, Microsoft can charge them more for Windows. How then is Dell supposed to compete with HP and Gateway if their computers suddenly cost $100 more than one from its rivals with the same specs? So no, they *don't* have a choice if they want to stay in business, which is why MS is a monopoly.
I was commenting about the double standard around here, The bundled apps was just an example to make that point.
Apple does what they want with their own systems. Microsoft tells other companies what to do with their systems, a la Netscape. See the difference?
I don't see the DoItYourSelf superiority complex as being any better than the Mac superiority complex. :) That said, I've built all three of my computers from parts. The only time I'd consider getting an OEM PC is if I got a laptop.
Second CPU? Why do I need that? Last time I checked there weren't any games that take advantage of multi-processor systems.
Quake 3 has smp capability. And dual procs are nice if you're at a lan party - you can host a dedicated server and play on the same machine.
More to the point, is that I think its funny that whenever people talk about Apple, somebody points out that you can build a fast PC system yourself for less money, reveling in that incredibly insightful observation. I wonder if these same clever people sit around poo-pooing Dell and HP for selling a computer for more money than a do-it-yourselfer costs.
Read it again: "The G5 is impressive enough without cooking up any numbers or twisting any words." The jackass doesn't provide any justification other than the (now discredited) editorial that was linked from Slashdot earlier. Further, he bitches about Apple calling these personal computers rather than workstations, then makes hay out of the fact that the G5 wont be the first personal computer, because BOXX Technologies is shipping a dual Opteron. Except if you look at their site, they make high end systems for video editing, hardly "personal computers". They even call it a workstation.
There's good reporting in journalism, and then there's just being an asshole. Can you understand the difference?
So, you're saying this guy wasn't in the business of figuring out how to steal satellite TV?
Irrelevant. Unless you're Rudy Gulliani, you don't bash the person as a cop-out to a ridiculously harsh penalty. But fine then, so he was "in the business of figuring out how to steal satellite TV", prosecute him for that, not for lost business that will never be lost because none of the devices were made.
And, last I heard, "all those 'enemy combatants" totalled 3 people.
3 people being held without due process is 3 too many. And there are hundreds of others who aren't being called "enemy combatants" but have been locked up in secret without trials.
What do you call sales taxes, payroll taxes, and property taxes then? Tofu?
Remember Kevin Mitnick? Remember the 5 years in prison without even a bail hearing? Or how about all those "enemy combatants" being held captive without a hearing? Or that kid with the search engine who settled with the RIAA, even though they later said he didn't do anything wrong? Face it, unless you're rich and can offord great lawyers, a large corporation or the DOJ can screw you over but good. When you're in that position, its tempting to cut a deal.
You don't convict someone of capital murder no murder even took place. Thats why we charge them with conspiracy to commit murder or attempted murder. This guy didn't do the crime, therefore he shouldn't do the time. At worst they should be able to convict him of conspiracy to sell hacked devices. I hope his attorney is appealing.
Right, since Office and OpenOffice are the only two pieces of software that exist in the world, thus they are the only two that you have to worry about.
Radeon eh? In that case I would blame ATI rather than Microsoft, for writing crappy drivers. I have an AIW Radeon and the only os it will work with reliably is WinME. :(
Because you have to pay someone to support all this free stuff, and possibly retrain your staff. This can cost you more in time and money than by just sticking with whatever you're already using.
So 3 years. That's how long IBM supports software before forcing you to upgrade.
:)
But is OS/390 their bread and butter operating system? I doubt it. A better comparison would be to find the oldest version of AIX that IBM has stopped supporting. I'm feeling lazy, and you are such a successful looker-upper of this stuff, I'll let you do it.
Okay, if I burn down your house, have I stolen it from you? I've taken "value away from someone else's property without compensating them for that loss". But wait, its not theft because nobody has your house anymore, its been burned to the ground. Thats why is called arson rather than stealing.
If there is no transfer of posession, there is no theft. Arson isn't theft because nobody has posession. Copyright infringment isn't theft, because there is no transfer of posession; the owner still has the origional item intact.
Further reasons why infringment is not theft: theft is concrete. If I break into Best Buy at night and steal 10 cd's of the latest boy band, that is a real world loss. Not only can they not sell those 10 copies to other customers, but they've lost the physical investment as well (cd pressing, shipping, storing etc). Whereas if I download the cd online and share it with 9 of my friends, they don't lose the physical investment, as they're still stitting in the store waiting to be sold. And of all those copies I made, it is extremely unlikely that all 10 of us would have bought the album instead. 10 losses of physical property and 10 lost sales versus no loss of physical property and 10 sales that "might" have been lost. Well there is no "maybe" with theft. Either I've stolen your car or I haven't. Either I shoplifted a game from Wal-Mart or I didn't.
Lastly, I say again: if this were actually theft by any stretch of the imagination, why isn't the RIAA having file traders prosecuted for it? Then they could bring them up on criminal charges as well as taking them to civil court.
No he isn't. Taking is removing, and if you are copying you aren't removing anything. If this really was theft, why doesn't the $IAA sue people for theft rather than copyright violations?
but stealing is stealing
Who care about the lame games, how about the games people actually play...
:) Valve totally fucked it up with the 1.4 update. Rather than focusing on new maps or creating new mission types, they screwed around and completly changed the gameplay. Thats what beta periods are for.
Plenty of people play Quake 3, and a great many games are based on its engine. If your card performs well running Q3, its likely to also running Alice.
That, and nobody plays CS anymore (compared to what it used to be).
I can't take anyone serious who spells Athlon as 'Athalon'.
Thats alright, I can't take asshole AC's seriously, either.
Also, did you stop to think that maybe he favored AMD then and Intel now because AMD had faster stuff then but Intel has faster stuff now?
There's comparing to see which is better and then there's selective comparing because you want one thing to look better than the other. Tom frequently does the latter, at least when it comes to CPU's. I'm not saying Tom is totally unbelievable, just that his reviews should be taken with a grain of salt.
Tom can be incredibly biased, depending on whoever is giving him more free stuff at the time. A couple years ago he was loudy proclaiming that there was no way that Intel could compete with AMD, and would end up exiting the microprocessor buisness. Things have changed though....look at any of his recent benchmarks comparing Athalons and P4's. For example, on all the ones I've seen, his game benchmark consists of Quake 3. If you didn't know, Quake 3 has always run much faster on P4's than on Athalons. If he wanted to be fair, he'd bench more games than that one; for example Serious Sam enjoys a similar advantage on Athalons.
Because they used an optimized Intel compiler for it, and Apple did not. There might be some dirt there if Apple had used a similarly optimized compiler from IBM while using gcc for the PC's, but they used gcc for both tests.
Except cost twice as much
And probably last 10 times as long....
and be a real pain to find cheap replacement parts for
Yeah, IDE hard drives, PC133 and USB keyboard/mice are all real hard to find these days...