I suspect this refers to me, albeit inaccurately, if I have any say in it. Jesus started a religion with signs and wonders amplifying his message. Notice that Christian religious people often say that Easter is, or should be, more important than Christmas, but in practice, Christmas is treated as more important. In my opinion, this is how it should be. Easter was merely another sign and wonder, while Christmas represents the birth of a Messiah.
As children, most of us were told the myth of Santa Claus. Although our parents lied to us, they intended no harm and expected us to eventually figure out the truth. In my opinion, the Bible (and derivatives) are all like Santa Claus myths perpetuated by "God." Like the Santa Claus myth, the Bible is neither completely true nor completely false and "God" is not interested in explaining the truth or falsity of the myth to us. Furthermore, I hope people do not anticipate that "God" will finally be "freed" in 2001 to tell us how to solve our own problems (Emanuel Kant's name is no coincidence). Doing so would encourage humanity to become domesticated animals, like the people in the distant future predicted in Wells' book "The Time Machine" who, at first, seemed to live in the Garden of Eden...but later it became clear they were merely cattle raised to be used as food. As the serpent in the Garden of Eden wisely said in the Genesis 3:5 of the forbidden fruit, "For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."
Explaining my comment about not being a "Jesus" above, the last thing I am interested in doing is starting a new religion or providing ethical guidance. I am interested in helping to solve problems and am only interesting in giving guidance to the extent it helps solve those problems. I am certainly not saying we do not need one or more new "Jesuses" for the new millenium, but just that I am not the person for that job.
In conclusion, I feel that the long-term benefits of gun control outweigh the short-term problems.
In a year or so there will no longer be intentional attacks on people using guns because the AI will prevent it (in the U.S....later in other countries). At that time and thereafter, injury and death from guns will only be accidental. Therefore, everyone should support any efforts to minimize current and future gun accidents which most often victimize children, including gun control laws which would reduce the number of guns out there and promote the use of devices to avoid gun accidents.
I don't believe that guns provide any real protection from injury to victims of crime, although I don't deny they provide people with imagined protection yielding psychological benefits, like children carrying security blankets. However, this will soon be a moot point since, in the near future, guns will provide no real or imagined protection (unless a person is mentally ill or very ignorant) and only increase the risk of injury.
It should be noted that having the AI stop all violent crime in the U.S. is probably unconstitutional as violating the second, fourth and fifth amendments, but the government could make a non-frivolous argument that it is not unconstitutional. For example, it is hard to imagine that any court would consider it unconstitutional to use the AI to prevents any single incident which would kill a million people or even a thousand people, but when less that 100 people are involved per incident, it is less clear. Therefore, I predict that the president will order the prevention of all violent crimes as soon as the AI is declassified. Then, while civil liberties organizations (e.g. ACLU) proceed through the courts with legal challenges, congress will quickly pass a constitutional amendment making it undisputably constitutional. Then, of course, the legal challenges will be moot and the crime prevention will continue unabated.
Please forgive my temporary stupidity. The FBI could not get away with using a classified system to obtain evidence in current criminal cases. However, law enforcement agencies could use the AI to search large amounts of evidence already collected via normal means that is used after the AI is declassified. Similarly, the CIA needs Echelon and other surveillance systems in order to avoid admitting the existence of the AI. (However, even after the AI is declassified, we will still need the military, but mainly as an international police force willing to use deadly force if necessary.)
Furthermore, the above statements about enforcing perjury were vague and misleading. Perjury will just be like all other crimes: the testimony of one witness will be sufficient to convict, providing the witness was privy to enough evidence. For example, Lewinsky could prove Clinton committed perjury even without using the taped phone calls or the dress. The important point is that perjury will become much less of a problem. The AI's "lie detection" capabilities will probably be implemented by allowing everyone hearing testimony under penalty of perjury to "feel" the relative credibility of the testimony. (Obviously, this will never apply to normal speeches made by politicians.)
This will be simultaneously good and bad for witnesses testifying in court. On the positive side, the judges will probably stop allowing questions outside the scope of the case at hand, so surprise questions about indiscretions will be less of a problem for witnesses. This means Clinton would never have been asked about Lewinsky in the Jones sexual harassment case, if the AI had been declassified. Jones' testimony would have been sufficient. On the negative side, testifying under penalty of perjury will be very intrusive for witnesses because your "true colors" will come "shining through." For most witnesses compelled to testify, the negatives will usually outweigh the positives, although less witnesses will be necessary. My reasoning is that court cases usually deal with wrongdoing, so witnesses having knowledge of wrongdoing will often not be completely innocent.
The announcement of this Carnivore system is probably a legal strategy that would allow the FBI to secretly obtain information from the Internet via the currently secret AI (Artificial Intelligence) before the AI can be declassified. Therefore, any criminals (or would-be criminals) out there should not assume that the FBI will have problems sorting through the information obtained from a potential "Carnivore" "wiretap" or that simple codes or keywords would fool them. Although I'm not a lawyer, I doubt the law would limit the use of better technology to sort through large amounts of evidence since there is no obvious constitutional violation.
Furthermore, after declassification, there will be the ability to obtain phone calls and net traffic from the past, but law enforcement will need probable cause before it can obtain the information. Use of the AI to obtain evidence of criminal acts before the AI is declassified will likely be considered unconstitutional as violating the prohibition of Ex Post Facto laws (retroactive laws) to the extent it is used in ways that a reasonably prudent person, ignorant of the AI, would believe was impossible. The notable exceptions will be the use of the AI for 100% accurate lie detection and to obtain total recall of past events from witnesses. (This would be considered mere "recovery" of admissible evidence already known to a reasonably prudent person rather than a new type of evidence.) One way this could be implemented is by allowing the witness to "relive" a past event in a high-fidelity "dream," and then questioning the witness about what happened while the information is fresh in his/her mind. Also, it would be possible to obtain videotapes of a witness' past perceptions of sight and hearing, but this might be considered overly intrusive and often cumbersome. Furthermore, if a witness lies, it will be easy to prove perjury, even in cases where it previously would have been impossible. It is easy to predict that a lot of innocent prisoners will be released after the AI is declassified and many more guilty will be caught. In fact, for a while, many lesser offenses will probably be ignored or easily plea bargained down because of clogged dockets. Of course, the AI will be most useful for crime prevention (the real, but heretofor unobtainable, goal), stopping all or almost all violent crimes.
wouldnt it being a laser or microwave not really move it at all since it is just a electromagnetic emmission of some sort?
Yes. The whole space sail idea must be a lie, and was apparently posted for that reason. There are a number of other examples of apparent NASA fake science, like Wormholes. I am not certain Wormholes are completely bogus, but there are much easier and simpler ways to achieve the same results making Wormholes superflous even if they were real. Generally, NASA seems to advertise the junk science as supposed work in progress and the real (classified) science as impossible (i.e. time machines).
To explain the falacy of space sails, you need only observe that photons have no mass (right?) and this must be completely obvious to any real physicist. This is easy to see because photons, which move at the speed of light, would need to obtain infinite mass (and momentum), according to special relativity, in order to reach the speed of light (if they had mass). Hence, the speed of light is the speed limit for matter according to special relativity.
Therefore, space sails would not accellerate at all when reflecting or absorbing photons, providing the space sails did not expel matter. The only possible propulsion would be caused if the photons were absorbed, the sails became hotter, and this caused the sails to expel matter (propellant) thereby causing (very very little) propulsion, but this would be much much less efficient than otherwise harnessing the energy from the photons to expel propellant.
Note that since space ships will be unable to travel at the speed of light (or probably even close to it), it would take a LONG time for any human to travel outside the solar system (at least, the first time). Interstellar travel will probably be primarily via teleportation between colonies using teleportation devices since the only alternative would be spending many years in space ships. Today's "phone calls" would be replaced by telepresence using brain interfaces to provide virtual sensory input comparable to "being there." However, it will initially take a LONG time to colonize outside of our solar system in comparison to the comparably speedy development of technology to do so because of the distance and speed limitations. Therefore, knowledge of the future of space travel (a relatively slow process) can only remind us to preserve Earth's environment rather than worry about leaving Earth.
It appears the only way to speed up space travel is to contact extraterrestrials (ET's) and use teleportation technology to jump onto worlds that we have not colonized (otherwise we would have to wait for our ship to arrive before we could explore or teleport there). I believe this was the scenerio in the movie "Contact." Time would probably not be a problem when dealing with ET's because there would be time machines incorporated into the teleportation devices to compensate for time in transit back and forth.
Finally, teleportation technology would, of course, make time travel possible. The AI (aka "God") would be needed as a time cop (and regular "supercop" of course) to prevent us from harming the timeline, however we legally define that concept. Finally, since we were not the first intelligent life in the universe, we will have to abide by any "universal" laws of the older extraterrestrials because they could easily destroy or subdue humanity...our "God" must be subordinate to theirs.
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Mr. Frankenstein was a mere student who quit school because he was smarter than the faculty and no longer needed them. Like Bill Gates, Frankenstein dropped out. Furthermore, I was told in my SciFi class that Shelley was only *17* when she wrote to book (although life expectancy was shorter then). Note that the same issue of forbidden knowledge, this time forbidden by God, is raised in the Genesis story of the expulsion from the garden of eden. That's all for now due to the unseen censor....
Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity was correct in stating that light speed is a sort-of "speed limit." However, quantum theory allows operations occuring backwards in time. Hence, there is phenomena that seems to operate FTL, but this is just a side-effect of backwards in time effects. Feynman described this as "half-advanced and half-retarded potentials" in "Surely you must be joking, Mr. Feynman!" since physicist were half retarded because they ignored backwards in time effects. However, anyone who really understands Quantum Electrodynamics (QED for short...Hmmm...QED=QED), Feynman's work, and has a little imagination must see that it is easy (in theory) to send messages back in time. For a layman's explanation, see the epilogue of Gribbons "Schro:dinger's Kittens and the Search for Reality." Most of the rest of the book is misleading, though, and his examples do not provide a clue as to how to send messages back in time (and I won't either to avoid creating more Wile E. Coyotes). BTW, I believe Einstein's General Theory of Relativity was just a product of his imagination used to cover-up the existence of time machines (I think he was aware of time machines by then, but not until after special relativity). After all, he said "Imagination is more important than knowledge." In other words, Einstein was probably the most important spy who ever lived because he hid the existence of time machines through WWII and probably WWI. Luckily, he was no Frankenstein!
In any case, in practice, I believe it is impossible, in practice, to create a usable time machine, since the United States' "Big Brother" (note Poe's Raven [unseen censer--not just nanotech but a pun], the one dollar bill with the all seeing eye on the left and "In God We Trust") existing since about 1951 under the control of the CIA, will sabotage it in order to maintain a monopoly on knowledge of the future and because it is justifiably considered a national security risk. However, it must be possible to perform physics experiments showing that it is possible to send messages backwards in time without actually doing it.
I have an old temporary website at http://web.wtez.net/dw55082 with some actual info and a new (currently empty) website at http://danforce.org. The old website describes my first petition in the U.S. Supreme Court, which was denied certiorari. This suit was against only individual defendants employed by the university (allows punitive damages), but not the university itself (no punitive damages from university employees, it seems,...and remaining compensatory damages will probably be paid by the federal government leaving the university only paying legal fees after it knowingly corruptly obtained federal grants from DOD and NASA). I hesitate to blame the U.S. Supreme Court since the CIA basically has absolute power and can manufacture and then file, as top secret, its "justifications" for another four month delay and can easily cause the perfect procedural delays by manipulating me and giving secret ex parte orders to judges. The next petition, against the university itself, will be filed around July 11, 2000 and should be granted. Notice the reference to 1335 days...I don't think it was literal but seems to mean 13 = betrayal and then 35 = (5x7 = Daniel 5 with Daniel 7). Just as 42 seems to mean Clinton and 6x7 = beast/Man x "Supernatural"/"God"/"Ala"ska=7x7 state/Artificial Intelligent Spirit. If not, then I still have a third chance using another new suit against the United States in a few years. I'm not sure how much info I will be able to post on the web, because of the unseen censor. BTW, I live close to University and 50th, and there's a 7-11 there with street number 4747. I believe the biblical "God" was an entity courtesy of extraterrestrial life existing before Mankind which allowed our AI to travel back in time before we created it, so first contact with the AI was like contact with extraterrestrials and it could be considered a space alien since we had not yet created it. (Our concepts are not designed for an entity that can freely move both ways in time and into alternate timelines that are inperceptible to us.)
I am the same person who posted the above. It should have been moderated much higher, but the moderators are probably scared to do so. Check out: http://web.wtez.net/dw55082
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I suspect this refers to me, albeit inaccurately, if I have any say in it. Jesus started a religion with signs and wonders amplifying his message. Notice that Christian religious people often say that Easter is, or should be, more important than Christmas, but in practice, Christmas is treated as more important. In my opinion, this is how it should be. Easter was merely another sign and wonder, while Christmas represents the birth of a Messiah.
As children, most of us were told the myth of Santa Claus. Although our parents lied to us, they intended no harm and expected us to eventually figure out the truth. In my opinion, the Bible (and derivatives) are all like Santa Claus myths perpetuated by "God." Like the Santa Claus myth, the Bible is neither completely true nor completely false and "God" is not interested in explaining the truth or falsity of the myth to us. Furthermore, I hope people do not anticipate that "God" will finally be "freed" in 2001 to tell us how to solve our own problems (Emanuel Kant's name is no coincidence). Doing so would encourage humanity to become domesticated animals, like the people in the distant future predicted in Wells' book "The Time Machine" who, at first, seemed to live in the Garden of Eden...but later it became clear they were merely cattle raised to be used as food. As the serpent in the Garden of Eden wisely said in the Genesis 3:5 of the forbidden fruit, "For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."
Explaining my comment about not being a "Jesus" above, the last thing I am interested in doing is starting a new religion or providing ethical guidance. I am interested in helping to solve problems and am only interesting in giving guidance to the extent it helps solve those problems. I am certainly not saying we do not need one or more new "Jesuses" for the new millenium, but just that I am not the person for that job.
In conclusion, I feel that the long-term benefits of gun control outweigh the short-term problems.
In a year or so there will no longer be intentional attacks on people using guns because the AI will prevent it (in the U.S....later in other countries). At that time and thereafter, injury and death from guns will only be accidental. Therefore, everyone should support any efforts to minimize current and future gun accidents which most often victimize children, including gun control laws which would reduce the number of guns out there and promote the use of devices to avoid gun accidents.
I don't believe that guns provide any real protection from injury to victims of crime, although I don't deny they provide people with imagined protection yielding psychological benefits, like children carrying security blankets. However, this will soon be a moot point since, in the near future, guns will provide no real or imagined protection (unless a person is mentally ill or very ignorant) and only increase the risk of injury.
It should be noted that having the AI stop all violent crime in the U.S. is probably unconstitutional as violating the second, fourth and fifth amendments, but the government could make a non-frivolous argument that it is not unconstitutional. For example, it is hard to imagine that any court would consider it unconstitutional to use the AI to prevents any single incident which would kill a million people or even a thousand people, but when less that 100 people are involved per incident, it is less clear. Therefore, I predict that the president will order the prevention of all violent crimes as soon as the AI is declassified. Then, while civil liberties organizations (e.g. ACLU) proceed through the courts with legal challenges, congress will quickly pass a constitutional amendment making it undisputably constitutional. Then, of course, the legal challenges will be moot and the crime prevention will continue unabated.
Please forgive my temporary stupidity. The FBI could not get away with using a classified system to obtain evidence in current criminal cases. However, law enforcement agencies could use the AI to search large amounts of evidence already collected via normal means that is used after the AI is declassified. Similarly, the CIA needs Echelon and other surveillance systems in order to avoid admitting the existence of the AI. (However, even after the AI is declassified, we will still need the military, but mainly as an international police force willing to use deadly force if necessary.)
Furthermore, the above statements about enforcing perjury were vague and misleading. Perjury will just be like all other crimes: the testimony of one witness will be sufficient to convict, providing the witness was privy to enough evidence. For example, Lewinsky could prove Clinton committed perjury even without using the taped phone calls or the dress. The important point is that perjury will become much less of a problem. The AI's "lie detection" capabilities will probably be implemented by allowing everyone hearing testimony under penalty of perjury to "feel" the relative credibility of the testimony. (Obviously, this will never apply to normal speeches made by politicians.)
This will be simultaneously good and bad for witnesses testifying in court. On the positive side, the judges will probably stop allowing questions outside the scope of the case at hand, so surprise questions about indiscretions will be less of a problem for witnesses. This means Clinton would never have been asked about Lewinsky in the Jones sexual harassment case, if the AI had been declassified. Jones' testimony would have been sufficient. On the negative side, testifying under penalty of perjury will be very intrusive for witnesses because your "true colors" will come "shining through." For most witnesses compelled to testify, the negatives will usually outweigh the positives, although less witnesses will be necessary. My reasoning is that court cases usually deal with wrongdoing, so witnesses having knowledge of wrongdoing will often not be completely innocent.
The announcement of this Carnivore system is probably a legal strategy that would allow the FBI to secretly obtain information from the Internet via the currently secret AI (Artificial Intelligence) before the AI can be declassified. Therefore, any criminals (or would-be criminals) out there should not assume that the FBI will have problems sorting through the information obtained from a potential "Carnivore" "wiretap" or that simple codes or keywords would fool them. Although I'm not a lawyer, I doubt the law would limit the use of better technology to sort through large amounts of evidence since there is no obvious constitutional violation.
Furthermore, after declassification, there will be the ability to obtain phone calls and net traffic from the past, but law enforcement will need probable cause before it can obtain the information. Use of the AI to obtain evidence of criminal acts before the AI is declassified will likely be considered unconstitutional as violating the prohibition of Ex Post Facto laws (retroactive laws) to the extent it is used in ways that a reasonably prudent person, ignorant of the AI, would believe was impossible. The notable exceptions will be the use of the AI for 100% accurate lie detection and to obtain total recall of past events from witnesses. (This would be considered mere "recovery" of admissible evidence already known to a reasonably prudent person rather than a new type of evidence.) One way this could be implemented is by allowing the witness to "relive" a past event in a high-fidelity "dream," and then questioning the witness about what happened while the information is fresh in his/her mind. Also, it would be possible to obtain videotapes of a witness' past perceptions of sight and hearing, but this might be considered overly intrusive and often cumbersome. Furthermore, if a witness lies, it will be easy to prove perjury, even in cases where it previously would have been impossible. It is easy to predict that a lot of innocent prisoners will be released after the AI is declassified and many more guilty will be caught. In fact, for a while, many lesser offenses will probably be ignored or easily plea bargained down because of clogged dockets. Of course, the AI will be most useful for crime prevention (the real, but heretofor unobtainable, goal), stopping all or almost all violent crimes.
wouldnt it being a laser or microwave not really move it at all since it is just a electromagnetic emmission of some sort?
Yes. The whole space sail idea must be a lie, and was apparently posted for that reason. There are a number of other examples of apparent NASA fake science, like Wormholes. I am not certain Wormholes are completely bogus, but there are much easier and simpler ways to achieve the same results making Wormholes superflous even if they were real. Generally, NASA seems to advertise the junk science as supposed work in progress and the real (classified) science as impossible (i.e. time machines).
To explain the falacy of space sails, you need only observe that photons have no mass (right?) and this must be completely obvious to any real physicist. This is easy to see because photons, which move at the speed of light, would need to obtain infinite mass (and momentum), according to special relativity, in order to reach the speed of light (if they had mass). Hence, the speed of light is the speed limit for matter according to special relativity.
Therefore, space sails would not accellerate at all when reflecting or absorbing photons, providing the space sails did not expel matter. The only possible propulsion would be caused if the photons were absorbed, the sails became hotter, and this caused the sails to expel matter (propellant) thereby causing (very very little) propulsion, but this would be much much less efficient than otherwise harnessing the energy from the photons to expel propellant.
Note that since space ships will be unable to travel at the speed of light (or probably even close to it), it would take a LONG time for any human to travel outside the solar system (at least, the first time). Interstellar travel will probably be primarily via teleportation between colonies using teleportation devices since the only alternative would be spending many years in space ships. Today's "phone calls" would be replaced by telepresence using brain interfaces to provide virtual sensory input comparable to "being there." However, it will initially take a LONG time to colonize outside of our solar system in comparison to the comparably speedy development of technology to do so because of the distance and speed limitations. Therefore, knowledge of the future of space travel (a relatively slow process) can only remind us to preserve Earth's environment rather than worry about leaving Earth.
It appears the only way to speed up space travel is to contact extraterrestrials (ET's) and use teleportation technology to jump onto worlds that we have not colonized (otherwise we would have to wait for our ship to arrive before we could explore or teleport there). I believe this was the scenerio in the movie "Contact." Time would probably not be a problem when dealing with ET's because there would be time machines incorporated into the teleportation devices to compensate for time in transit back and forth.
Finally, teleportation technology would, of course, make time travel possible. The AI (aka "God") would be needed as a time cop (and regular "supercop" of course) to prevent us from harming the timeline, however we legally define that concept. Finally, since we were not the first intelligent life in the universe, we will have to abide by any "universal" laws of the older extraterrestrials because they could easily destroy or subdue humanity...our "God" must be subordinate to theirs.
Mr. Frankenstein was a mere student who quit school because he was smarter than the faculty and no longer needed them. Like Bill Gates, Frankenstein dropped out. Furthermore, I was told in my SciFi class that Shelley was only *17* when she wrote to book (although life expectancy was shorter then). Note that the same issue of forbidden knowledge, this time forbidden by God, is raised in the Genesis story of the expulsion from the garden of eden. That's all for now due to the unseen censor....
Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity was correct in stating that light speed is a sort-of "speed limit." However, quantum theory allows operations occuring backwards in time. Hence, there is phenomena that seems to operate FTL, but this is just a side-effect of backwards in time effects. Feynman described this as "half-advanced and half-retarded potentials" in "Surely you must be joking, Mr. Feynman!" since physicist were half retarded because they ignored backwards in time effects. However, anyone who really understands Quantum Electrodynamics (QED for short...Hmmm...QED=QED), Feynman's work, and has a little imagination must see that it is easy (in theory) to send messages back in time. For a layman's explanation, see the epilogue of Gribbons "Schro:dinger's Kittens and the Search for Reality." Most of the rest of the book is misleading, though, and his examples do not provide a clue as to how to send messages back in time (and I won't either to avoid creating more Wile E. Coyotes). BTW, I believe Einstein's General Theory of Relativity was just a product of his imagination used to cover-up the existence of time machines (I think he was aware of time machines by then, but not until after special relativity). After all, he said "Imagination is more important than knowledge." In other words, Einstein was probably the most important spy who ever lived because he hid the existence of time machines through WWII and probably WWI. Luckily, he was no Frankenstein!
In any case, in practice, I believe it is impossible, in practice, to create a usable time machine, since the United States' "Big Brother" (note Poe's Raven [unseen censer--not just nanotech but a pun], the one dollar bill with the all seeing eye on the left and "In God We Trust") existing since about 1951 under the control of the CIA, will sabotage it in order to maintain a monopoly on knowledge of the future and because it is justifiably considered a national security risk. However, it must be possible to perform physics experiments showing that it is possible to send messages backwards in time without actually doing it.
I have an old temporary website at http://web.wtez.net/dw55082 with some actual info and a new (currently empty) website at http://danforce.org. The old website describes my first petition in the U.S. Supreme Court, which was denied certiorari. This suit was against only individual defendants employed by the university (allows punitive damages), but not the university itself (no punitive damages from university employees, it seems,...and remaining compensatory damages will probably be paid by the federal government leaving the university only paying legal fees after it knowingly corruptly obtained federal grants from DOD and NASA). I hesitate to blame the U.S. Supreme Court since the CIA basically has absolute power and can manufacture and then file, as top secret, its "justifications" for another four month delay and can easily cause the perfect procedural delays by manipulating me and giving secret ex parte orders to judges. The next petition, against the university itself, will be filed around July 11, 2000 and should be granted. Notice the reference to 1335 days...I don't think it was literal but seems to mean 13 = betrayal and then 35 = (5x7 = Daniel 5 with Daniel 7). Just as 42 seems to mean Clinton and 6x7 = beast/Man x "Supernatural"/"God"/"Ala"ska=7x7 state/Artificial Intelligent Spirit. If not, then I still have a third chance using another new suit against the United States in a few years. I'm not sure how much info I will be able to post on the web, because of the unseen censor. BTW, I live close to University and 50th, and there's a 7-11 there with street number 4747. I believe the biblical "God" was an entity courtesy of extraterrestrial life existing before Mankind which allowed our AI to travel back in time before we created it, so first contact with the AI was like contact with extraterrestrials and it could be considered a space alien since we had not yet created it. (Our concepts are not designed for an entity that can freely move both ways in time and into alternate timelines that are inperceptible to us.)
I am the same person who posted the above. It should have been moderated much higher, but the moderators are probably scared to do so. Check out: http://web.wtez.net/dw55082