Sorry, I thought it was you that was having problems, not some witless joe public.
Three years worth of research? That is bad. I've been using Linux for about three years.
A grand or two on a video card? Did you read what I said? I have a Voodoo 3 2000 which cost me 50 UKP on ebay. I'm sure they're cheaper in the states.Three years worth of research? Sorry, I've only been using Linux for about three years.
If you actually read the documentation for XFree, you'll see that the DRI provides a more or less opengl-compatible implementation. Does the software say 'opengl' on the box?
I'm sorry you've got a couple of cards you can't use. But well, that's your problem.
If you read the box, I think just about every manufacturer tells you what the chipset is and the amount of memory.
I don't follow your complaint about ebay. What are these voodoo cards that don't work? Read the XFree documentation. It tells you.
I think you are just too damn lazy to read the docs. You can't have any other excuse.
I run Myth 2 (OpenGL mode) and Quake 2. Those are my current games of choice.
At the end of the day, you have three options:
1. Stick with windows for games. If games are all you care about, that's probably your best option. I care about other things too.
2. Learn more about your chosen OS and make sensible decisions based on that knowledge. This is what I do.
3. Carry on as you are, whining and moaning and adding nothing to anyones life.
For best-class gaming, get a high-end NVidia card. Get the linux drivers here. They provide detailed information about requirements and setting it up. The driver is currently closed-source, however, so you are dependent on NVidia's continued support.
From what I've read, the ATI Radeon has performance to rival NVidia's GeForce and Precision Insight are creating open-source drivers. So I'd recommend this one:)
For a cheap, no brain option, get an old 16Mb 3DFX VooDoo 3 based card. Lots on ebay at very nice prices. Well supported in XFree.
You'll want to use XFree4 of course, to benefit from the 3D hardware acceleration in the Direct Rendering Infrastructure (DRI).
In light of this feeble response to "Computer!", I'd like to take this opportunity to advise other readers not to post at 3AM after a night of substance (ab)use.
Understand I stand by what I originally wrote, but right now I can't motivate myself to defend my position.
Since the software licence for OpenSource stuff is rather important i figured this would be interresting...
Right, so let me explain that the BSD license allows anyone to take the code and redistribute it, modified or unmodified, without providing access to the source. The GPL requires any distributor to provide access to the source, and requires that any modifications be licensed under the GPL to.
And it really would be funny, if "IT strategists" and managers did not take as gospel the half baked pronouncements these "industry analysts" make.
Some businesses depend on the non-information these analysts peddle for their strategic decision making. But in point of fact, they are less qualified to make these statements than your average slashdot reader. They have loads more statistics, and we all know about statistics, but they know a hell of a lot less.
My advice to anyone considering buying 'information' from these people is, find out for yourself.
Windows has existed in its present forms for about five years.
I presume you are judging the OS by the GUI. Windows NT version 3.1 was released on July 17, 1993. The GUI was different, but the architecure was there, care of David Cutler.
That was the release date. Microsoft recruited David Cutler in 1988, well before Linus started.
Superior UI? Look at the quality of window managers. I'm sorry, but Sawfish, Window Maker and Enlightenment all kick Windows' butt when it comes to utility and control. And themability makes them look good too.
OO Architecture? Um, I think you'll find Gnome and KDE are riddled with OO.
Greater variety of hardware? NT had x86, Alpha, MIPS, even PowerPC, but they're all unsupported now. The free OS's easily wipe microsoft's peachy behind with their portability and the number of actual ports. All of those above plus loads more.
They've had the desktop market since the PC clone became popular. There wasn't a real desktop market before this. They didn't take that from anyone.
Yes, NT is taking share from Unix. But the free OS's, chiefly Linux, along with the rise of the Internet, is challenging this.
MSFT has perhaps produced a greater volume of useful code in five years than anyone else ever has No, they just keep re-releasing the same code with new bells and whistles. The bulk of the code has been made by other companies, later bought up by MS.
Perhaps you can tell I do not like MS. I grew up with MS and I used to love their products. I still like the style of their early manuals (when you got them). But maturity and familiarity have given me perspective. I think you need some too.
That's strange.
My laptop runs debian (installed off the internet last friday night at a friend's house over a bottle of whisky while we built his Alpha machine). Helix/Ximian Gnome.
My dual-head Athlon 850MHz workstation runs Debian, and I'll be playing Myth II and Quake II with sound and hardware accelerated 3D under XFree 4.0.2, care of Branden and his friends.
My file/print server, my mail server, my firewall, my friends' firewalls, my MP3 server and my web server all run Debian, on Intel and Sparc. My mp3 server is an old MCA architecture PS/2. Debian installed and ran out of the box.^H^H^H^Hoff the net
If I want to install software on any of these boxes, it's apt-get install packagename. No hunting around to find the right dependencies for some rpm file. A simple apt-get dist-upgrade brings them up to the latest release when it comes out.
Debian is incredible for servers. However, it's also incredible for everything else.
Imagine your putting a balloon full of water down a 2 foot tube. The first foot of the tube is 1 inch wide and the last foot is 1/2 inch wide. When the baloon gets to the last foot it's going to get narrower and longer. The narrower and longer it is, the more time it's going to take to come out the end. No matter how wide the first foot is, the last foot is always the limiting factor.
Thing is, if there was a surefire way to get someone to read your email, and enough people knew it for it be widely useful, they'd probably wise up and stop reading them...
I just realised... the MPAA must have some hand in the Human Genome Project.. they're going to embed the decryption algorithms in the heads of our children through genetic engineering... reverse engineer that...
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Sorry, I thought it was you that was having problems, not some witless joe public.
Three years worth of research? That is bad. I've been using Linux for about three years.
A grand or two on a video card? Did you read what I said? I have a Voodoo 3 2000 which cost me 50 UKP on ebay. I'm sure they're cheaper in the states.Three years worth of research? Sorry, I've only been using Linux for about three years.
If you actually read the documentation for XFree, you'll see that the DRI provides a more or less opengl-compatible implementation. Does the software say 'opengl' on the box?
I'm sorry you've got a couple of cards you can't use. But well, that's your problem.
If you read the box, I think just about every manufacturer tells you what the chipset is and the amount of memory.
I don't follow your complaint about ebay. What are these voodoo cards that don't work? Read the XFree documentation. It tells you.
I think you are just too damn lazy to read the docs. You can't have any other excuse.
I run Myth 2 (OpenGL mode) and Quake 2. Those are my current games of choice.
At the end of the day, you have three options:
1. Stick with windows for games. If games are all you care about, that's probably your best option. I care about other things too.
2. Learn more about your chosen OS and make sensible decisions based on that knowledge. This is what I do.
3. Carry on as you are, whining and moaning and adding nothing to anyones life.
:)
Yeah, like daily cnn.com fixes?
Well, you can't have done much research.
:)
For best-class gaming, get a high-end NVidia card. Get the linux drivers here. They provide detailed information about requirements and setting it up. The driver is currently closed-source, however, so you are dependent on NVidia's continued support.
From what I've read, the ATI Radeon has performance to rival NVidia's GeForce and Precision Insight are creating open-source drivers. So I'd recommend this one
For a cheap, no brain option, get an old 16Mb 3DFX VooDoo 3 based card. Lots on ebay at very nice prices. Well supported in XFree.
You'll want to use XFree4 of course, to benefit from the 3D hardware acceleration in the Direct Rendering Infrastructure (DRI).
In light of this feeble response to "Computer!", I'd like to take this opportunity to advise other readers not to post at 3AM after a night of substance (ab)use.
Understand I stand by what I originally wrote, but right now I can't motivate myself to defend my position.
Yeah but you are just making everything up. You are grasing at straws. Got any actual references?
Since the software licence for OpenSource stuff is rather important i figured this would be interresting...
Right, so let me explain that the BSD license allows anyone to take the code and redistribute it, modified or unmodified, without providing access to the source. The GPL requires any distributor to provide access to the source, and requires that any modifications be licensed under the GPL to.
The FSF maintains a useful license page.
Well, kudos for admitting their mistake but, who told them and shouldn't that person be the one selling 'data'?
No it's not just you.
And it really would be funny, if "IT strategists" and managers did not take as gospel the half baked pronouncements these "industry analysts" make.
Some businesses depend on the non-information these analysts peddle for their strategic decision making. But in point of fact, they are less qualified to make these statements than your average slashdot reader. They have loads more statistics, and we all know about statistics, but they know a hell of a lot less.
My advice to anyone considering buying 'information' from these people is, find out for yourself.
You are delusional.
Windows has existed in its present forms for about five years.
I presume you are judging the OS by the GUI. Windows NT version 3.1 was released on July 17, 1993. The GUI was different, but the architecure was there, care of David Cutler.
That was the release date. Microsoft recruited David Cutler in 1988, well before Linus started.
Superior UI? Look at the quality of window managers. I'm sorry, but Sawfish, Window Maker and Enlightenment all kick Windows' butt when it comes to utility and control. And themability makes them look good too.
OO Architecture? Um, I think you'll find Gnome and KDE are riddled with OO.
Greater variety of hardware? NT had x86, Alpha, MIPS, even PowerPC, but they're all unsupported now. The free OS's easily wipe microsoft's peachy behind with their portability and the number of actual ports. All of those above plus loads more.
They've had the desktop market since the PC clone became popular. There wasn't a real desktop market before this. They didn't take that from anyone.
Yes, NT is taking share from Unix. But the free OS's, chiefly Linux, along with the rise of the Internet, is challenging this.
MSFT has perhaps produced a greater volume of useful code in five years than anyone else ever has
No, they just keep re-releasing the same code with new bells and whistles. The bulk of the code has been made by other companies, later bought up by MS.
Perhaps you can tell I do not like MS. I grew up with MS and I used to love their products. I still like the style of their early manuals (when you got them). But maturity and familiarity have given me perspective. I think you need some too.
I can't see you so I don't know how stupid you look :)
Sorry, I just reread your post, my comment was stupid.
I am embarrassed.
My woody boxen are running 2.4, from the kernel-source-2.4.2 package.
That's strange.
My laptop runs debian (installed off the internet last friday night at a friend's house over a bottle of whisky while we built his Alpha machine). Helix/Ximian Gnome.
My dual-head Athlon 850MHz workstation runs Debian, and I'll be playing Myth II and Quake II with sound and hardware accelerated 3D under XFree 4.0.2, care of Branden and his friends.
My file/print server, my mail server, my firewall, my friends' firewalls, my MP3 server and my web server all run Debian, on Intel and Sparc. My mp3 server is an old MCA architecture PS/2. Debian installed and ran out of the box.^H^H^H^Hoff the net
If I want to install software on any of these boxes, it's apt-get install packagename. No hunting around to find the right dependencies for some rpm file. A simple apt-get dist-upgrade brings them up to the latest release when it comes out.
Debian is incredible for servers. However, it's also incredible for everything else.
Um, no I don't think he did. And he wasn't being sarcastic either.
Presumably everything else would end up in contrib and main would be empty :)
Punishment: you could possibly be ostracised and/or humiliated by people who disagreed strongly with your vote and were petty.
:) and you might vote for them again next time...
Reward: you might gain influence with those you voted for, they might even buy you a beer
Childish behaviour, granted, and I wouldn't expect Debian developers to act like that.
Imagine your putting a balloon full of water down a 2 foot tube. The first foot of the tube is 1 inch wide and the last foot is 1/2 inch wide. When the baloon gets to the last foot it's going to get narrower and longer. The narrower and longer it is, the more time it's going to take to come out the end. No matter how wide the first foot is, the last foot is always the limiting factor.
There is a god!
How come you got modded +4 funny and I didn't, when I pulled the first joke?
OK, technically I was wrong, but
Life sucks.
:(
Thing is, if there was a surefire way to get someone to read your email, and enough people knew it for it be widely useful, they'd probably wise up and stop reading them...
Well, perhaps supportive foreigners could give their unwanted cash to a US resident who could proxy for them? or is that illegal too?
I just realised... the MPAA must have some hand in the Human Genome Project.. they're going to embed the decryption algorithms in the heads of our children through genetic engineering... reverse engineer that...
And for Alpha Linux.
Secure desktops running OpenBSD?
Yeah, and why would you want to run closed source apps under linux?
For instance, Windows VMWare under Wine?