I've never personally played with it. But it seems to do fine for generic print. That being said it is "plug and play" so it is doing all sorts of stuff a printer shouldn't. Turn that crap off.
The OS is needed because the printer supports direct print from USB drives.
First off thank you for the detailed and knowledgeable response to my rant. Thank you for elevating the conversation.
Everyone talks about "interoperability" and how great it is, but then we push for ever-fancier technology which is inherantly NOT interoperable, or interoperable only at a huge price.
I understand that's a standard IT problem in all areas. How to integrate old technology into new systems. It is made much easier if a central agency can effectively control what happens. It is made much harder if everything is a tortuous negotiation and local implementation. Think the difference between Microsoft and Apple.
I'm glad to see the federal government taking more of a role. But it seems like they aren't doing enough to get everything working right. As a country we obviously need a radio system for emergency and police. I see no reason as a country we don't just solve this problem... those radios might be a lot cheaper if the Federal government offered to buy 2m of them and just handed them out.
Why should they care about people getting their hands on Viagra without a prescription?
Lots of non prescription drugs are fun recreationally. For example a huge number of pharmaceuticals either are effectively amphetamines or can have ingredients extracted. It is enough of a problem with non prescription medications.
As for the election. Obama is popular with his base. His approval rating is in the high 70s among Democrats.
No software for Linux??? Huh? That was never a problem certainly not by 1995. The people switching were Unix users and the Unix apps were being ported or had been ported. Heck they even had some desktop productivity like well WordPerfect. There was also StarOffice (became OpenOffice). There was LyX which was terrific. There were databases. A ton of programming languages.
Linux was rapidly becoming the most diverse Unix software environment around by then. Maybe IRIX or Solaris was better if you had infinite funds but...
I used to do the same demo but I would do modem on top. I was an OS/2 guy from 1.3 to 3.0. OS/2 wasn't quite as good as QEMM/Desqview at multitasking DOS apps plus Windows but Windows was essentially unusable for multi tasking. And OS/2 software always ran. Linux was painful. Windows 2000 was the first version that IMHO was comparable to OS/2, 2.1.
I worked for WaldenSoftware when the shift went from Word Perfect to Word.
Microsoft offered a competitive upgrade to their entire office suite for $129, which essentially everyone qualified for. WordPerfect for Windows was pretty good, not as good as Word for Windows but Word Perfect was at that point the better Word processor. They finally paired up with Borland to offer QuatroPro/Paradox/Word/Harvard Graphics. But for about a year they were more expensive than Word (effectively) and AmiPro was arguably the best. The Suite (Lotus 1-2-3, Ami Pro word processor...)
Well this of course could easily be solved by national standards dictated from Washington tied to various financial incentives. We couldn't do that during the Bush administration because "we don't want the government picking winners and losers" so instead we had 11 years of no progress. Now we could just pick a good solution and go with it.
A production environment? In a production environment end users (I'm assuming graphic designers) shouldn't be printing at all. They should be sending their jobs to an EJS team working on professional equipment. Content creators are not experts in rendering.
And HP doesn't make production quality equipment anymore. As for the rest, they are supported by generic postscript drivers.
For a company with a private network the cost of having print jobs (which can be easily be 100MB / page if ripped on the host) flowing through the network, especially things like private cell data network is terrible. You want the control those other systems provide. The other real problem is cost per impression. I don't want 10,000 page print jobs for a meeting going to the $.04 per page departmental level printer rather than the $.003 per page offsite printer or worse the $.14 per page printer in the office. Besides setup right, even the end users are amazed how well these systems work. Who would want to downgrade from PFS or Solimar to WebOS? If I have a 7000 person company with 3 main locations and a few dozen small offices, with all sorts of telecommunicating, with VPN, private cloud, MPLS,.... I want the control, assuming the company still has a good IT department.
But... where it really makes sense is the step down from that. The 50-1000 employee business. They may not be using a private network yet, and something like Verizon FIOS is passing the data. They don't have a server setup in each location.... And of course all that stuff I mentioned not being in place, kills the good solution. American business is heavily focused on doing stuff badly and easily right now, WebOS works well for that.
Yes I've made the mistake of these sorts of heavy drivers, never again.
You get the best information from HP's Linux site: https://launchpad.net/hplip and http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/ and find out what the rasorization engine is. From there get a generic one for Windows. Of course if the printer can do anything on its own just use a generic driver, Window's drivers are also annoyingly complex. I general would go up from the 1000 series to not have host based printing if you are going to use Windows.
You aren't going to get 30 MB/sec from the protocol. You would be lucky to get 1/2 that.
But that's not the real issue. The real issue is what sarhjinian mentioned. The two types of printers that don't have rastorization onboard are: absolute bottom and absolute top end.
If you want low level control of Postscript HP printers almost all come with PCL. RIP postscript to PCL on your computer and send the PCL. Ghostscript works well can be pushed into your printer driver. That's what I used to do when I had Postscript jobs and didn't have a RIP on my printers.
They aren't even that expensive. I've been using a HP CP2025dn for a few years now. Printers runs like $300 today for color duplex laser. This is the first printer I've ever owned that can do everything I've wanted in a workgroup printer. I'm going through about $70 black / yr and $200 color / 4 yrs. Not bad for a dream printer.
I'm not seeing it. Once you get over about $100 you have printers that support PCL at the very least. For example the P2035 which is $250 has PCL5 M175 which is $300 has HP PCL 6, HP PCL 5c, HP postscript level 3 emulation, PDF (v1.7) At the top of the line something like the 6015 has HP PCL 6, HP PCL 5c, HP postscript level 3
Where are these expensive printers with host only printing. I understand HP Universal is the default but use a generic driver if you don't like it.
In a corporate environment? I'll tell you how to do it.
You run a printer job distribution server, like IBM PSF, FlexServer and Solimar. Mobile jobs are tagged by type and location, with options for user preferences to that system which dispatches globally to local printer servers / inner office mail. It could also connect to 3rd party providers like Kinko's for remote pickup. End users are then sent a job ticket via. email.
I built that sort of thing 15 years ago. The reason it doesn't work well at home is no-one has figured out how to setup distribution without a system admin sitting down and writing lots of complex rules. But for enterprise that's just rolled into deployment cost.
Unfortunately, HP doesn't seem to get that most of us are moving AWAY from the idea of printing on paper, wherever possible.
That's been the meme for a generation. At the same time average number of impressions printed by computers skyrocketed all through to about 2000 and continues to be very high still. Today a $5000 workgroup printers is capable of doing duty cycles in range of 50k-100k impressions between servicing on average, reliability you used to have to be in the $250k range to get. While the workgroup printers still don't have all the features of the centralized print system, they are driving up not down print volumes.
There are small drivers for HP. You don't have to install the entire machinery. Most HP printers support PCL, PDF some still support Postscript. Just send generic print codes to your printer and don't bother with the HP software.
GPL wouldn't solve the problem necessarily. The handset maker could not put restrictions on but the carrier could. "We won't allow the phone on our network unless it is using a signed version...".
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HP seems to say it follows industry norms. (HP-GL/2, HP-RTL, TIFF, JPEG, CALS G4, HP PCL 3 GUI)
They have a list of supported linuxes: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/designjet/hp_designjet_t790ps_44in.html
They even provide source code for a compatible driver: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/hplip/hplip-3.11.10.tar.gz
I've never personally played with it. But it seems to do fine for generic print. That being said it is "plug and play" so it is doing all sorts of stuff a printer shouldn't. Turn that crap off.
The OS is needed because the printer supports direct print from USB drives.
First off thank you for the detailed and knowledgeable response to my rant. Thank you for elevating the conversation.
I understand that's a standard IT problem in all areas. How to integrate old technology into new systems. It is made much easier if a central agency can effectively control what happens. It is made much harder if everything is a tortuous negotiation and local implementation. Think the difference between Microsoft and Apple.
I'm glad to see the federal government taking more of a role. But it seems like they aren't doing enough to get everything working right. As a country we obviously need a radio system for emergency and police. I see no reason as a country we don't just solve this problem... those radios might be a lot cheaper if the Federal government offered to buy 2m of them and just handed them out.
Lots of non prescription drugs are fun recreationally. For example a huge number of pharmaceuticals either are effectively amphetamines or can have ingredients extracted. It is enough of a problem with non prescription medications.
As for the election. Obama is popular with his base. His approval rating is in the high 70s among Democrats.
No software for Linux??? Huh? That was never a problem certainly not by 1995. The people switching were Unix users and the Unix apps were being ported or had been ported. Heck they even had some desktop productivity like well WordPerfect. There was also StarOffice (became OpenOffice). There was LyX which was terrific. There were databases. A ton of programming languages.
Linux was rapidly becoming the most diverse Unix software environment around by then. Maybe IRIX or Solaris was better if you had infinite funds but...
I used to do the same demo but I would do modem on top. I was an OS/2 guy from 1.3 to 3.0. OS/2 wasn't quite as good as QEMM/Desqview at multitasking DOS apps plus Windows but Windows was essentially unusable for multi tasking. And OS/2 software always ran. Linux was painful. Windows 2000 was the first version that IMHO was comparable to OS/2, 2.1.
OS/2 had peaked earlier. And I think you are forgetting Windows NT.
And having used Linux in 1995 it was tough going.
I worked for WaldenSoftware when the shift went from Word Perfect to Word.
Microsoft offered a competitive upgrade to their entire office suite for $129, which essentially everyone qualified for. WordPerfect for Windows was pretty good, not as good as Word for Windows but Word Perfect was at that point the better Word processor. They finally paired up with Borland to offer QuatroPro/Paradox/Word/Harvard Graphics. But for about a year they were more expensive than Word (effectively) and AmiPro was arguably the best. The Suite (Lotus 1-2-3, Ami Pro word processor...)
Well this of course could easily be solved by national standards dictated from Washington tied to various financial incentives. We couldn't do that during the Bush administration because "we don't want the government picking winners and losers" so instead we had 11 years of no progress. Now we could just pick a good solution and go with it.
Bad division. I was thinking you were talking max not 1/2 max. Sorry we were agreeing, and I was screwing the math.
A production environment? In a production environment end users (I'm assuming graphic designers) shouldn't be printing at all. They should be sending their jobs to an EJS team working on professional equipment. Content creators are not experts in rendering.
And HP doesn't make production quality equipment anymore. As for the rest, they are supported by generic postscript drivers.
I get it. There are moves online. At the same time the ease of printing changes things.
And the iPads are cheaper. Don't forget you have smaller offices without paper and thus less heating and air conditioning.
Not quite.
For a company with a private network the cost of having print jobs (which can be easily be 100MB / page if ripped on the host) flowing through the network, especially things like private cell data network is terrible. You want the control those other systems provide. The other real problem is cost per impression. I don't want 10,000 page print jobs for a meeting going to the $.04 per page departmental level printer rather than the $.003 per page offsite printer or worse the $.14 per page printer in the office. Besides setup right, even the end users are amazed how well these systems work. Who would want to downgrade from PFS or Solimar to WebOS? If I have a 7000 person company with 3 main locations and a few dozen small offices, with all sorts of telecommunicating, with VPN, private cloud, MPLS,.... I want the control, assuming the company still has a good IT department.
But... where it really makes sense is the step down from that. The 50-1000 employee business. They may not be using a private network yet, and something like Verizon FIOS is passing the data. They don't have a server setup in each location.... And of course all that stuff I mentioned not being in place, kills the good solution. American business is heavily focused on doing stuff badly and easily right now, WebOS works well for that.
Yes I've made the mistake of these sorts of heavy drivers, never again.
You get the best information from HP's Linux site: https://launchpad.net/hplip and http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/ and find out what the rasorization engine is. From there get a generic one for Windows. Of course if the printer can do anything on its own just use a generic driver, Window's drivers are also annoyingly complex. I general would go up from the 1000 series to not have host based printing if you are going to use Windows.
You aren't going to get 30 MB/sec from the protocol. You would be lucky to get 1/2 that.
But that's not the real issue. The real issue is what sarhjinian mentioned. The two types of printers that don't have rastorization onboard are: absolute bottom and absolute top end.
If you want low level control of Postscript HP printers almost all come with PCL. RIP postscript to PCL on your computer and send the PCL. Ghostscript works well can be pushed into your printer driver. That's what I used to do when I had Postscript jobs and didn't have a RIP on my printers.
They aren't even that expensive. I've been using a HP CP2025dn for a few years now. Printers runs like $300 today for color duplex laser. This is the first printer I've ever owned that can do everything I've wanted in a workgroup printer. I'm going through about $70 black / yr and $200 color / 4 yrs. Not bad for a dream printer.
I'm not seeing it. Once you get over about $100 you have printers that support PCL at the very least. For example the
P2035 which is $250 has PCL5
M175 which is $300 has HP PCL 6, HP PCL 5c, HP postscript level 3 emulation, PDF (v1.7)
At the top of the line something like the
6015 has HP PCL 6, HP PCL 5c, HP postscript level 3
Where are these expensive printers with host only printing. I understand HP Universal is the default but use a generic driver if you don't like it.
You had a roll printer that could not print to the edge of the page? What model?
In a corporate environment? I'll tell you how to do it.
You run a printer job distribution server, like IBM PSF, FlexServer and Solimar. Mobile jobs are tagged by type and location, with options for user preferences to that system which dispatches globally to local printer servers / inner office mail. It could also connect to 3rd party providers like Kinko's for remote pickup. End users are then sent a job ticket via. email.
I built that sort of thing 15 years ago. The reason it doesn't work well at home is no-one has figured out how to setup distribution without a system admin sitting down and writing lots of complex rules. But for enterprise that's just rolled into deployment cost.
That's been the meme for a generation. At the same time average number of impressions printed by computers skyrocketed all through to about 2000 and continues to be very high still. Today a $5000 workgroup printers is capable of doing duty cycles in range of 50k-100k impressions between servicing on average, reliability you used to have to be in the $250k range to get. While the workgroup printers still don't have all the features of the centralized print system, they are driving up not down print volumes.
There are a huge number of touch interfaces. Blackberry has 2: BBOS and QNX (QNX is excellent for a hardware device). JavaVM, BREW...
WebOS is a good choice I agree with you there. But there is nothing particularly special about it.
Thank you. I was going to say that. Oh and BTW most HPs also have PDF. Some have Postscript and a few have IPDS.
Buy ethernet printers rather than sharing USB printers and you won't have that problem. Buy stuff designed for how you want to use it.
There are small drivers for HP. You don't have to install the entire machinery. Most HP printers support PCL, PDF some still support Postscript. Just send generic print codes to your printer and don't bother with the HP software.
GPL wouldn't solve the problem necessarily. The handset maker could not put restrictions on but the carrier could. "We won't allow the phone on our network unless it is using a signed version...".