I have heard from people close the the community several things.
1. The detectors that imploded/ did not implode
where seperated by the water line. I.E. Those under water imploded and the above the water line did not implode.
2. There is about 3 meters of broken glass in the bottom of the tank.
3. Nobody is sure of what will happen to funding or the experiment. (I realize this contradicts the the main thread explanation)
4. there was about 20 million in damage just in destroyed tubes. This is not counting water which was very expensive, near the theroetical purity of water. Or the cleanup and redisign cost.
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Now for some speculation/opinion
1. It is the opinion of some people in the field that this could have possibly been prevented, by baffles, and partitions.
They either did not fully consider the affects of what could happen or they dismissed it.
2. This was a pretty prestigious experiment.
Liken this to Fermilab exploding in the US or
CERN in europe. This was one of the biggest if not the biggest experiment of its kind in the world. Also the most sensitive. (vs say Homestake)
3. Because of the prestige for the Japanese scientific community there is a very good chance funding to bring it back will come through.
4. Unless the tank itself is leaking. These tanks were not designed to survive a catastrophic event like this. If it leaks it probably will not be repairable. and the experiment is over
5. The tank will need to be drained and the glass removed, About 3 meters deep worth, and they will need to design a baffle system to keep this from happening again before they star again.
6. this could have been prevented acording to people in the community and was a known danger.
9. This suddenly makes funding for other competing projects in other place more available. Which is good for the other places. They may be secretly glad.
10. This is great for Hamamatsu, because they make the tubes and may get and order to replece them.
I bought two netpliances from CC on 3/15 and still have not recieved any news on them. I purchased these outright and signed no contract. How do they know whether or not I was planning to hack them. They were available at compusa for a while, and I still did not have any news about my units. Does a company that treats is customers like this deserve your business? I think the beef most people have is that they are not honering the original sales agreement that most people had. That is certainly my problem with them. Changing terms of sale before any money has changed hands is not a problem for me, It sucks but I feel they are within thier right to do it. There are allot of people out there that are being shafted by not gettting units they paid for. Aside from that, what do they think they can do to keep this unit from being hacked? Other than contractual service agreements not much. I and several of my friends have acsess to smd equipment and I really can't see that they could do anything that could keep hackers out, if they wanted in bad enough.
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I forgot to add the general feeling, is that it was a single imposion due maybe to water pressure that touched off imposions in all of the tubes.
I have heard from people close the the community several things.
1. The detectors that imploded/ did not implode
where seperated by the water line. I.E. Those under water imploded and the above the water line did not implode.
2. There is about 3 meters of broken glass in the bottom of the tank.
3. Nobody is sure of what will happen to funding or the experiment. (I realize this contradicts the the main thread explanation)
4. there was about 20 million in damage just in destroyed tubes. This is not counting water which was very expensive, near the theroetical purity of water. Or the cleanup and redisign cost.
_____________
Now for some speculation/opinion
1. It is the opinion of some people in the field that this could have possibly been prevented, by baffles, and partitions.
They either did not fully consider the affects of what could happen or they dismissed it.
2. This was a pretty prestigious experiment.
Liken this to Fermilab exploding in the US or
CERN in europe. This was one of the biggest if not the biggest experiment of its kind in the world. Also the most sensitive. (vs say Homestake)
3. Because of the prestige for the Japanese scientific community there is a very good chance funding to bring it back will come through.
4. Unless the tank itself is leaking. These tanks were not designed to survive a catastrophic event like this. If it leaks it probably will not be repairable. and the experiment is over
5. The tank will need to be drained and the glass removed, About 3 meters deep worth, and they will need to design a baffle system to keep this from happening again before they star again.
6. this could have been prevented acording to people in the community and was a known danger.
9. This suddenly makes funding for other competing projects in other place more available. Which is good for the other places. They may be secretly glad.
10. This is great for Hamamatsu, because they make the tubes and may get and order to replece them.
I bought two netpliances from CC on 3/15 and still have not recieved any news on them. I purchased these outright and signed no contract. How do they know whether or not I was planning to hack them. They were available at compusa for a while, and I still did not have any news about my units. Does a company that treats is customers like this deserve your business? I think the beef most people have is that they are not honering the original sales agreement that most people had. That is certainly my problem with them. Changing terms of sale before any money has changed hands is not a problem for me, It sucks but I feel they are within thier right to do it. There are allot of people out there that are being shafted by not gettting units they paid for. Aside from that, what do they think they can do to keep this unit from being hacked? Other than contractual service agreements not much. I and several of my friends have acsess to smd equipment and I really can't see that they could do anything that could keep hackers out, if they wanted in bad enough.