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  1. Re:you forgot ... on Novell Desktop To Standardize On Qt [updated] · · Score: 1

    You get the current version, and any updates for a year. After that, you keep the latest version you got.

    Or you wanted free updates for life? No commercial product offers that.

    Call it whatever you want, its not per version.

    As for the "per developer per product" you say, its just plain wrong:

    http://www.trolltech.com/products/qt/pricing.htm l? cid=4

    "Single Platform
    (Either Qt/Windows or Qt/X11 or Qt/Mac)
    Prices per developer. Includes one year of support and maintenance."

    The same thing for the duopack or the triopack.

    So, in short: you are 100% wrong in that one.

  2. Re:you forgot ... on Novell Desktop To Standardize On Qt [updated] · · Score: 1

    Last I checked,it included updates for a year, so it's not per version, it was per developer and not per product, and if you bought for several platforms, each new platform was cheaper (so it's not per platform, either).

    That's a lot of pers to be wrong about. Unless you can point me to the licensing terms of the proprietary version somewhere, and prove me wrong.

  3. Re:QT? What about licensing? on Novell Desktop To Standardize On Qt [updated] · · Score: 1

    Yes, you can. Qt Free is also under the QPL.

  4. Re:Microsoft's Trump Card? on Novell Desktop To Standardize On Qt [updated] · · Score: 1

    Let's see... logic? The basic meaning of "patent"?

  5. Re:How Much to dev with? on Novell Desktop To Standardize On Qt [updated] · · Score: 1

    You are assuming wrong because:

    a) That's not what it says there. "Build" is not "uses"

    b) The software is licensed under a license (actually, several licenses). If you want to know what you can or can't do with it/to it, you need to read the license, not the two-dollar version (the webpage)

  6. Re:QT? What about licensing? on Novell Desktop To Standardize On Qt [updated] · · Score: 2, Insightful

    > Inappropiate for basic foundations of linux software.

    Says who? Oh, nevermind.

  7. Re:Not a good idea on KDE And Gnome Together At Last? · · Score: 1

    Well, why don't you just put a sftp url in konqueror and see what happens?

    Konqueror *is* a sftp client.

    But anyway, here's the good part. Open a file in any KDE app. Then choose "save as". Then type sftp://blah.whatever in the location bar.

    Neat hah?

  8. Re:C++ Skill... on C++ GUI Programming with Qt 3 · · Score: 1

    Uh... Qt Designer comes with every version of Qt (development version, that is, not a runtime)

  9. Re:How the hell did parent get modded up ? on Announcing the KDE Quality Team Project · · Score: 1

    1. Why on earth do you have servisia installed? You *do* know that it's possible to perform CVS operations on folders lacking a CVS subfolder, right? (hint: import, co)

    2. Switch to latest plastik

    3. Because I like it.

    4. Well, I would explain it, if it weren't false. Right-click on any place where there isn't a button.

    If you are a usability expert, the industry is in deep trouble.

  10. Re:i hope these guys will integrate with kde-redha on Announcing the KDE Quality Team Project · · Score: 1

    The better alternative is to do make && make test && checkinstall make install and have it be in your RPM database.

  11. Re:The problem with KDE is still QT. on Ars Technica: Deep Inside KDE 3.2 · · Score: 1

    Ok, I will abandon this discussion as hopeless. You are just too ignorant.

    But first:

    I did read the roadmap. I also know what parts of Qt are system-dependent. Because I damn know Qt. So, I know what's left after you remove the X11 dependency. And it's not much.

    You, of course, avoided answering what's not native about the cygwin DLL. Because it *is* native to win32, so adding that dependency doesn't make Qt any less native. Therefore, your point is moot.

    The analogy you now present is even worse than the older one.

    How can a GPLd library (Qt) be the reference implentation of a public-but-closed API???? Are you nuts? They are using the exact same API definition (which is obviously open) as Qt/X11. They are redoing a piece (about 2%) of the IMPLEMENTATION! NOT THE API!

    As for the FAQ, yes, that is all there is to read. You just are not any good at it. And now you throw around quotes without actually quoting anyone. Way to go, dude!

    Again, you simply are convinced they mean something, then put words in their mouth. That's both stupid and unethical. Good combo, that!

  12. Re:The problem with KDE is still QT. on Ars Technica: Deep Inside KDE 3.2 · · Score: 1

    Yes, both require the cygwin DLL. For very little, though. Check the code instead of just reading the dependency list.

    On the other hand, what is not native about the cygwin DLL? Really, tell me. I'm eager.

    As for the quote from the FAQ, you obviously have not read it carefully, and are instead just paying enough attention to make it fit your opinion.

    For example, what do you think "the platform strategy" is?

  13. Re:The problem with KDE is still QT. on Ars Technica: Deep Inside KDE 3.2 · · Score: 1

    Just a reminder: there are **two** Qt3 projects on that page, and one doesn't use a X11 layer, so your analogy is awfully broken.

    Yes, you have a right to bitch. What you don't have is a right to say bullshit like " AFAICT, Trolltech is withholding it for no other reason than to tell developers of Free software for Windows to fsck off." , which is simply uninformed garbage.

    I won't claim to know their reasons. I know that I don't know them, though.

  14. Re:The problem with KDE is still QT. on Ars Technica: Deep Inside KDE 3.2 · · Score: 1

    Claryfying and correcting myself: that's not what **you** asked for.

    You asked for a GPLd Qt for (latest windows), not (latest Qt) GPLd for windows. Not the same things.

    Just in case you **still** haven't bothered to look, go to kde-cygwin.sf.net, and check both qt3 projects (one requires X, the other doesn't).

    While I expect them not to be up to 3.3 yet, they should be eventually.

  15. Re:The problem with KDE is still QT. on Ars Technica: Deep Inside KDE 3.2 · · Score: 1

    a) That's not what he asked for (read it)

    b) So what? There's a two-month old 3.2 version. Wait a month or so, and you will have a 3.3 GPL version for windows.

  16. Re:The problem with KDE is still QT. on Ars Technica: Deep Inside KDE 3.2 · · Score: 1

    Yes, there is a GPL version of Qt for the latest version of windows. Look harder.

  17. Re:More free? on KDE 3.2.0 Released · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Nice history rewriting there.

    Miguel has said (in public) the following:

    * KDE is what convinced him that a Linux desktop was doable

    * He wanted GNOME to be 'just like KDE'

    Both in interviews around 1997-1999, IIRC. Feel free to search for it, but my memory of the events is clear.

  18. Re:USB 1.0 on KDE 3.2.0 Released · · Score: 1

    a) KDE has no fucking clue what a mouse is, so you are a moron to blame KDE for it.

    b) Support for USB mice has been working for about three years. I know I have one since 2002.

  19. Re:Perens LLC on UserLinux Will Support KDE · · Score: 1

    Well, I think its badmouthing Jackson.

    At least he sticks to being a Democrat.

  20. Re:Qt. on C++ GUI Programming with Qt 3 · · Score: 1

    Read the article. Then buy the book. Then you get a non-comm win32 license.

  21. Re:The two major things that turned me off ... on C++ GUI Programming with Qt 3 · · Score: 1

    There *is* a standard for Python: CPython.

    When other python implementations (like Jython) diverge from it, it should be documented.

    No idea about Perl, though.

  22. Re:KOffice vs Open Office on Koffice 1.3 Released · · Score: 1

    Other than Mac, Windows and Unix, what else do you need?

    Sure, it uses X on Windows, but OO uses X on Mac.

  23. Re:Clueless semi-N00B question... on Koffice 1.3 Released · · Score: 1

    Head for kde-redhat.sf.net and enjoy!

  24. Re:PARKING PROBLEMS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA on Recent Apt-Gettable Goodness From Ark, Conectiva · · Score: 1

    I you fired someone in the US because of the result of an IQ test, you can probably be sued on discrimination basis.

    If you fired him because they didn't perform, that's ok, but then they would be fired for being bad at their jobs, not because of their IQs.

    Lesson of the story: if you gonna pretend you are smart in order to try a witty comeback, you need to have a higher IQ than you seem to possess.

  25. Re:KDE most impressive open source project - ever on KDE 3.2 Release Candidate 1 Debuts · · Score: 1

    Is it me or you just said your cock sucks?

    Whatever dude. Nice to see at least you assume your failings!