I've got a whole new line of businesses to start...
MacDonald's Burger Prince Jack in the Can Alabama Fried Chicken Cmdr Taco Bell Wendy's... (A WHORE!) Long Dong Silver's Dead Lobster Starfucks Dairy Queer
"While I generally am leery of government interference in business, this case clearly involves blatant antitrust violations and is precisely what the Sherman Act was drafted to prevent."
If there was ONE LICK of truth to your statement ("leery of government interference in business") you would NOT of finished the sentance the way you did.
I'll be happy to see this get marked down as Flaimbait/Troll - as is usual. However it is refreshing to see this "Linux" sight show its true colors whenever there is a MSFT posting.
I would say your day is coming but with the DMCA, I'd say it already has. You deserve it.
The BBB and Consumer Reports ain't gonna do shit. If you're gonna take it outta someone's "a$$" you'll need a different brand of vigilante than Ralph Nadar
Will the ability to steal something prevent anyone for ever again charging for their product? This means either 2 things: no product or products inundated with advertisements, proprietary formats, playback control, et cetera.
The $3.95 price is a little steep for 32 minutes - sounds like a short film not a full-fledged movie. OTOH, this is a PURCHASE not a RENTAL. But I do hope when electronic distriubution for profit comes around, people can show more responsibility. This, of course, assumes that media companies show more responsibility. Perhaps even first by keeping their hands off the playback mechanisms and avoiding proprietary formats (software) and focusing on the media. It also wouldn't hurt if they learned how to price things.
"Everyone that has something useful to say gets an account!" This is untrue. As I see it, the only benefit to an account is setting up preferences and creating continuity if it is desired. Many people are "readers" not posters (or posers) and they only contribute when they have something useful to say with no desire or motiviation to have their comments permanently linked to them. Then they're idiots like me that blather on and on and on about anything.
A lot of times people post AC because they don't even want to be ID'd with their login name.
A better system might be to give every registered user 1 moderation point (maybe 2 if you are really good) per thread. This way they can mod up 1 of their own posts to 1. If their post can stand on its own, they can use the point(s) however. If they post 10 times in a single thread, only one or two of those posts gets the +1 throw.
I've gone from AC to AE and the only that has changed is less usage of the word "fuck". Oops.
Should vendors be liable if their software is incompatible with a 3rd party driver or some POS peripherial??? Computers are far too complex and too many things unrelated directly to the software can go wrong.
Who do you sue if a sound card-OS interaction crashes the system? I bet I could design a sound card that crashes a computer. You have parts from maybe 2 dozen or more different vendors and you want to blame the software maker?
How's this for a "solution"? You want a guarantee? Then you run the software on hardware and with a configuration of the providers selection with no unauthorized software or hardware! And only certified professionals can touch the machine.
I could be wrong, but doesn't slashdot have a higher percentage of software providers (coders) than say readers of CNN.com? The ability to limit your liability is essential in these lawsuit-happy times with skyrocketing rewards. If you want a guarantee, then find a provider that gives you one. Alternatively, insurance can be used judicially.
If every piece of code sold OR DISTRIBUTED for any price had to be liable, then it is the slashdot community most likely to suffer. Liability would stifle code distribution and you wouldn't put your name on anything for fear of lawsuits. "Buyer Beware" is also a tennant of capitalism and in this case, the license clearly states the liability limits. I don't know what your rights are to get money back of a shrinkwrap "license", but I'd think it should be the case that you can get your money back BEFORE using the software. That's a horse of a different color.
The rule is that if you are registered and you make those stupid comments you are generally ignored or moderated up. Downward moderation should be eliminated as a useless waste of moderation points. In a stupidity arms race, the stupidest often win.
Your post was actually dead on. The problems here are not technological. They are legal. Even if a company goes belly-up, they're IP does not become public domain. It will most likely be held idle by liquidators until some other company can purchase it. Even if its bought to be buried. Thus, there is the very real possibility of losing the RIGHT to access this material once its officially offline. Or at an online publisher's whim if they put out something embarassing.
True that they want to prevent piracy. But the ultimate goal is to place the consumer in some type of marketing pay-per-view big brother hell.
By controlling the playback mechanism, it won't be long before they can legally require you to pay for every play, or inform them that you are playing the media. Guobblemints and corporations BOTH want this.
Think back to the Lewinsky/Clinton impeachment trial and ask yourself if you want all of your media viewing habits disclosed at your next civil/criminal/divorce/custody court hearing. Even if they keep info out of the marketers hands, if the info exists in databases, the judge can demand it.
If that's the case, please post while registered next time. No self-respecting AC would post that drivel. That AC checkmark box is a pox on this site. Either end AC posting or end the war on AC posters. Slashdot wants to have its cake and eat it too.
Slashdot Mirror
You're pretty safe since it is "TRADEMARK" and "COPYRIGHT". True, IANAL, but then again, IANAFM (I am not a fucking moron).
Smoking!
I've got a whole new line of businesses to start...
MacDonald's
Burger Prince
Jack in the Can
Alabama Fried Chicken
Cmdr Taco Bell
Wendy's... (A WHORE!)
Long Dong Silver's
Dead Lobster
Starfucks
Dairy Queer
Call your site "Cache for Stupid Fucking Morons". That will turn some heads AND avoid lawsuits.
I'm already on the list, after all I saw your post. Huh?
"While I generally am leery of government interference in business, this case clearly involves blatant antitrust violations and is precisely what the Sherman Act was drafted to prevent."
If there was ONE LICK of truth to your statement ("leery of government interference in business") you would NOT of finished the sentance the way you did.
I'll be happy to see this get marked down as Flaimbait/Troll - as is usual. However it is refreshing to see this "Linux" sight show its true colors whenever there is a MSFT posting.
I would say your day is coming but with the DMCA, I'd say it already has. You deserve it.
The BBB and Consumer Reports ain't gonna do shit. If you're gonna take it outta someone's "a$$" you'll need a different brand of vigilante than Ralph Nadar
Go for it
Will the ability to steal something prevent anyone for ever again charging for their product? This means either 2 things: no product or products inundated with advertisements, proprietary formats, playback control, et cetera.
The $3.95 price is a little steep for 32 minutes - sounds like a short film not a full-fledged movie. OTOH, this is a PURCHASE not a RENTAL. But I do hope when electronic distriubution for profit comes around, people can show more responsibility. This, of course, assumes that media companies show more responsibility. Perhaps even first by keeping their hands off the playback mechanisms and avoiding proprietary formats (software) and focusing on the media. It also wouldn't hurt if they learned how to price things.
"Everyone that has something useful to say gets an account!" This is untrue. As I see it, the only benefit to an account is setting up preferences and creating continuity if it is desired. Many people are "readers" not posters (or posers) and they only contribute when they have something useful to say with no desire or motiviation to have their comments permanently linked to them. Then they're idiots like me that blather on and on and on about anything.
A lot of times people post AC because they don't even want to be ID'd with their login name.
A better system might be to give every registered user 1 moderation point (maybe 2 if you are really good) per thread. This way they can mod up 1 of their own posts to 1. If their post can stand on its own, they can use the point(s) however. If they post 10 times in a single thread, only one or two of those posts gets the +1 throw.
I've gone from AC to AE and the only that has changed is less usage of the word "fuck". Oops.
But can't they still be metamoderated by using "flaimbait"? I thought "overrated" was the cowardly route.
"Hmmm, I wonder what it's like to be right all the time..."
It is a pleasant feeling of euphoria.
I'm Doug Lewellen and I'm here to say "your post is funny!"
Should vendors be liable if their software is incompatible with a 3rd party driver or some POS peripherial??? Computers are far too complex and too many things unrelated directly to the software can go wrong.
Who do you sue if a sound card-OS interaction crashes the system? I bet I could design a sound card that crashes a computer. You have parts from maybe 2 dozen or more different vendors and you want to blame the software maker?
How's this for a "solution"? You want a guarantee? Then you run the software on hardware and with a configuration of the providers selection with no unauthorized software or hardware! And only certified professionals can touch the machine.
"Another loss for us, a loss for the consumer."
I could be wrong, but doesn't slashdot have a higher percentage of software providers (coders) than say readers of CNN.com? The ability to limit your liability is essential in these lawsuit-happy times with skyrocketing rewards. If you want a guarantee, then find a provider that gives you one. Alternatively, insurance can be used judicially.
If every piece of code sold OR DISTRIBUTED for any price had to be liable, then it is the slashdot community most likely to suffer. Liability would stifle code distribution and you wouldn't put your name on anything for fear of lawsuits. "Buyer Beware" is also a tennant of capitalism and in this case, the license clearly states the liability limits. I don't know what your rights are to get money back of a shrinkwrap "license", but I'd think it should be the case that you can get your money back BEFORE using the software. That's a horse of a different color.
End the kharma-whoring system alltogether. There is no reason why every individual post cannot stand or fall on its own.
Question: I laughed at this - does that make me a bad person?
The rule is that if you are registered and you make those stupid comments you are generally ignored or moderated up. Downward moderation should be eliminated as a useless waste of moderation points. In a stupidity arms race, the stupidest often win.
Don't sweat it. I'm just being pissy.
Your post was actually dead on. The problems here are not technological. They are legal. Even if a company goes belly-up, they're IP does not become public domain. It will most likely be held idle by liquidators until some other company can purchase it. Even if its bought to be buried. Thus, there is the very real possibility of losing the RIGHT to access this material once its officially offline. Or at an online publisher's whim if they put out something embarassing.
Rock on, Quaryon!
True ACs rarely attack their own kind. Please uncheck the "post anonymously" box if you have any integrity.
Yes but the topic is about online documents. I.e., the goofball just read the headline and posted the first random thoughts that came to mind.
True that they want to prevent piracy. But the ultimate goal is to place the consumer in some type of marketing pay-per-view big brother hell.
By controlling the playback mechanism, it won't be long before they can legally require you to pay for every play, or inform them that you are playing the media. Guobblemints and corporations BOTH want this.
Think back to the Lewinsky/Clinton impeachment trial and ask yourself if you want all of your media viewing habits disclosed at your next civil/criminal/divorce/custody court hearing. Even if they keep info out of the marketers hands, if the info exists in databases, the judge can demand it.
I have removed kuro5hin from my profile because I am NOT associated with them and don't wish to cause confusion.
I am also not associated with CNET - however they invariable post things 3 days before slashdot or 3 days after. Kinda funny actually.
If that's the case, please post while registered next time. No self-respecting AC would post that drivel. That AC checkmark box is a pox on this site. Either end AC posting or end the war on AC posters. Slashdot wants to have its cake and eat it too.
I am not associated with kuro5hin.
I visit both sites.
I point out k5 because I would like to see slashdot changed. If, before change, slashdot is replaced, so be it.
I will not develop my own site using Perl or slashcode or whatever you call it.
For the record, I've not only read your drunken rant, but enjoyed it. In fact, it is "funny".