Re:IPCop as a quick solution to firewalling
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IPCop 0.1.1 Review
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· Score: 1
Nice work whoring yourself, Phil. I supose you couldn't resist stooping to a new low. Well, I am damned if I'm staying in the shadows any longer. I think I'm best qualified to comment on the "IPCop feature list", since really IPCop is something I wrote a significant amount of. I thought it might be interesting to see what (if any) progress you've made.
- Installs from bootable CD, or with a floppy to kick it off, installs from CD, http or ftp.
So it uses the installer I wrote for SmoothWall then. Ah, you did change the banner along top to remove both mine and Richard Morrell's names.
- IPChains based firewall, - Analog/ISDN/ADSL modem support
- Support for almost any connection type
Yeah. Again, looks just like a SmoothWall feature.
- Full DMZ Support,
- Web Based GUI Admin & Config System
So lets see. You changed the logo (very nice btw!!!) And did some edits of the header.pl file. Well done! Thanks for the tiny mention in the Credits page. It's nice to credit where it's due. I don't think any member of the IPCop team wrote the DMZ support code, did they?
- Full Status Display,
- Full Traffic Graphs
Hmm... SmoothWall features, those! Of course, I would never use the word "Full" in describing any feature. It shows that you are unable to think of something better.
- Full Connections Information
If you call "netstat -taM" in a CGI 'Full Connections Information', that's up to you. I find it very funny though. You've obviously not used real tools before if you think thats "Full Connections Information". But Jack had to get his "feature" in, didn't he.
- PPP Settings/Configuration Area
I wrote that for Smoothie too. This is getting DULL. Where are the improvments, Phil? Where is support for unlimited numbers of profiles, which I will one day get around to writing? Etc etc?
- PPtP ADSL Support
You score one point:) It's only not been written for SW because the demand is so small.
- PPPoE Support
Pierre-Yves Paulus wrote that for SW, with some help from me. Ah, that was fun. Wrting scripts to actually connect to the net on a remote box was a memorable experience. Anyway, where do you credit him?
- USB ADSL Firmware Upload Area
Dan Goscomb wrote the CGI/scripting support for USB ADSL. Where do you credit him?
- Modem Configuration Area
MMM yes, I seem to remember writing that page too.
- SSH server for Remote Access,
Password Control Area, HTTP/FTP/HTTPS Web Proxy, DHCP Server, Caching DNS, TCP/UDP Port Forwarding, External Service Access Control, DMZ Pinholing Capacity
All standard features of SW, mostly the script work was done by me with some help from other people in the team.
- Dynamic DNS Support
CGI and script written by Pierre-Yves Paulus, for SW.
- Intrusion Detection System (SNORT)
Conf file tweaked by SW team member Dan Cutherbert. CGI (such that it is) writen by me.
- VPN Support (FreeSWAN) with Control Area
CGI and setuid helper writen by me in a bored afternoon.
- Full System Logs, Web Proxy Logs, Firewall Logs, Intrusion Detection System Logs
Hmm, wonder who wrote those log viewers?:) It wasn't an IPCop team member, thats for certain.
- Remote Shutdown/Reboot Area,
Integrated JAVA Based SSH Shell Area
Richards idea that one. Obvious when you think about it, but his idea none-the-less. Where are your ideas??
- IPCop Linux Updates Area
Dan Goscomb wrote the update feature, and associated routines. Again, can't you do anything different?
Ah well, that was interesting wasn't it? I hope everyone thought so. As to progress, it seems a nice round (fat) 0 would be the best score to give. IPCop is SmoothWall GPL with a different banner along the top, and very little else. They also refuse to give credit where it is due, and this, IMNSHO, is totally unethical. The IPCop team also seems to have a total lack of talent. You've had getting on 5 months, and all you've produced is a clone with a ugly web interface. Anyway, I thought I would stick my head out for once. Personally I don't give a damn what you do with IPCop. The fact that you don't even give us proper credit shows what a sick bunch of people you are, though.
Anyone know what kernel the beasts run? How often do the machines go down (due to a software fault)? I'm a linux user myself so this isn't some excuse to bash, just a genuine curiosity about the stability, especially of 2.2 linux kernels on highend hardware.
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Nice work whoring yourself, Phil. I supose you couldn't resist stooping to a new low. Well, I am damned if I'm staying in the shadows any longer. I think I'm best qualified to comment on the "IPCop feature list", since really IPCop is something I wrote a significant amount of. I thought it might be interesting to see what (if any) progress you've made.
- Installs from bootable CD, or with a floppy to kick it off, installs from CD, http or ftp.
So it uses the installer I wrote for SmoothWall then. Ah, you did change the banner along top to remove both mine and Richard Morrell's names.
- IPChains based firewall, - Analog/ISDN/ADSL modem support
- Support for almost any connection type
Yeah. Again, looks just like a SmoothWall feature.
- Full DMZ Support, - Web Based GUI Admin & Config System
So lets see. You changed the logo (very nice btw!!!) And did some edits of the header.pl file. Well done! Thanks for the tiny mention in the Credits page. It's nice to credit where it's due. I don't think any member of the IPCop team wrote the DMZ support code, did they?
- Full Status Display, - Full Traffic Graphs
Hmm... SmoothWall features, those! Of course, I would never use the word "Full" in describing any feature. It shows that you are unable to think of something better.
- Full Connections Information
If you call "netstat -taM" in a CGI 'Full Connections Information', that's up to you. I find it very funny though. You've obviously not used real tools before if you think thats "Full Connections Information". But Jack had to get his "feature" in, didn't he.
- PPP Settings/Configuration Area
I wrote that for Smoothie too. This is getting DULL. Where are the improvments, Phil? Where is support for unlimited numbers of profiles, which I will one day get around to writing? Etc etc?
- PPtP ADSL Support
You score one point :) It's only not been written for SW because the demand is so small.
- PPPoE Support Pierre-Yves Paulus wrote that for SW, with some help from me. Ah, that was fun. Wrting scripts to actually connect to the net on a remote box was a memorable experience. Anyway, where do you credit him?
- USB ADSL Firmware Upload Area
Dan Goscomb wrote the CGI/scripting support for USB ADSL. Where do you credit him?
- Modem Configuration Area
MMM yes, I seem to remember writing that page too.
- SSH server for Remote Access, Password Control Area, HTTP/FTP/HTTPS Web Proxy, DHCP Server, Caching DNS, TCP/UDP Port Forwarding, External Service Access Control, DMZ Pinholing Capacity
All standard features of SW, mostly the script work was done by me with some help from other people in the team.
- Dynamic DNS Support
CGI and script written by Pierre-Yves Paulus, for SW.
- Intrusion Detection System (SNORT)
Conf file tweaked by SW team member Dan Cutherbert. CGI (such that it is) writen by me.
- VPN Support (FreeSWAN) with Control Area
CGI and setuid helper writen by me in a bored afternoon.
- Full System Logs, Web Proxy Logs, Firewall Logs, Intrusion Detection System Logs
Hmm, wonder who wrote those log viewers? :) It wasn't an IPCop team member, thats for certain.
- Remote Shutdown/Reboot Area, Integrated JAVA Based SSH Shell Area
Richards idea that one. Obvious when you think about it, but his idea none-the-less. Where are your ideas??
- IPCop Linux Updates Area
Dan Goscomb wrote the update feature, and associated routines. Again, can't you do anything different?
Ah well, that was interesting wasn't it? I hope everyone thought so. As to progress, it seems a nice round (fat) 0 would be the best score to give. IPCop is SmoothWall GPL with a different banner along the top, and very little else. They also refuse to give credit where it is due, and this, IMNSHO, is totally unethical. The IPCop team also seems to have a total lack of talent. You've had getting on 5 months, and all you've produced is a clone with a ugly web interface. Anyway, I thought I would stick my head out for once. Personally I don't give a damn what you do with IPCop. The fact that you don't even give us proper credit shows what a sick bunch of people you are, though.
Lawrence Manning (lawrence@smoothwall.org)
Principle Author, SmoothWall
Anyone know what kernel the beasts run? How often do the machines go down (due to a software fault)? I'm a linux user myself so this isn't some excuse to bash, just a genuine curiosity about the stability, especially of 2.2 linux kernels on highend hardware.