For the record, I know of at least seven production sites running ACS 4 that we've done in the past year. The end result of this is that we have been way too busy to lend much of our resources directly to the community effort. We hold the community effort in high regard. In fact, we wouldn't be where we are today without it. And we hope that we can all help each other out. But we are still unconvinced that the goals of the project as a whole and our own goals are sufficiently intertwined at this point for us to hijack our livelihoods in order to concentrate our efforts on OpenACS.
We are not in the business of building a toolkit. We are in the business of building quality websites. That is what we get paid for. We are more than happy to add our improvements to the toolkit in the process, and to employ the improvements made by others.
I'm sorry we can't afford to be idealistic in this respect. But the toolkit didn't get to where it is simply because of idealism. A lot of money went into making it what it is. A lot of money goes into the improvements we make.
We're not super-rich people, and we're not really looking to be. We're just looking to use our skills to make great sites and earn good money.
We at ee-bose been pushing really hard for several months to support ourselves and our families and have turned out tons of great code. I have only now been released from the site-mills for a few days to work on pulling this stuff together so that we can share it with y'all. We're very proud of our code, and will gladly share.
I would love to be more of a part of OpenACS. I think they're doing great stuff, and I hope our work furthers the effort. But we can't devote the resources we'd like to to it.
Anyway, stay tuned for some kick-ass enhancements, including an ACS that plays well with Oracle 9i, and utilities to migrate from 8i to 9i.
This will only add to the need to look good, style over substance. Phone operators or customer service people will be hired for looks.
On the other hand, this could actually reduce some of the problems of cell-phone use while driving. Cell-phones are disorienting because they are a disembodied voice, and if your mind tries to compensate by generating a mental picture, you become less aware of your surroundings. If you have a picture to tie to the voice, then your mind might not have to separate from where your body is as much.
Don't have access to one of these myself so I can't test it but I suspect that any old IE would be able to access the site cleanly.
If so, then they are plainly spewing shit by claiming that it's all about rendering the page properly.
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We are not in the business of building a toolkit. We are in the business of building quality websites. That is what we get paid for. We are more than happy to add our improvements to the toolkit in the process, and to employ the improvements made by others.
I'm sorry we can't afford to be idealistic in this respect. But the toolkit didn't get to where it is simply because of idealism. A lot of money went into making it what it is. A lot of money goes into the improvements we make.
We're not super-rich people, and we're not really looking to be. We're just looking to use our skills to make great sites and earn good money.
I would love to be more of a part of OpenACS. I think they're doing great stuff, and I hope our work furthers the effort. But we can't devote the resources we'd like to to it.
Anyway, stay tuned for some kick-ass enhancements, including an ACS that plays well with Oracle 9i, and utilities to migrate from 8i to 9i.
This will only add to the need to look good, style over substance. Phone operators or customer service people will be hired for looks.
On the other hand, this could actually reduce some of the problems of cell-phone use while driving. Cell-phones are disorienting because they are a disembodied voice, and if your mind tries to compensate by generating a mental picture, you become less aware of your surroundings. If you have a picture to tie to the voice, then your mind might not have to separate from where your body is as much.
Don't have access to one of these myself so I can't test it but I suspect that any old IE would be able to access the site cleanly.
If so, then they are plainly spewing shit by claiming that it's all about rendering the page properly.