When was the last time you ran unknown programs (as root) on your machine, then manually copied them (and ran as root) on another machine as well?
Uh pretty often. I don't care too much about security, so often I do all my work in root. But then I've never gotten a virus (both on Windows and Linux side), so I'm sure I'm not as paranoid as I could be.
11Mb/s (current wireless standard) is pretty fast for full motion video. I have been able to watch full motion, full speed video from the web over my cable modem, which is then connected to my wireless hub. Take the laptop anywhere in the house and watch.
It doesn't do any more for me than WordStar used to in 64k.
Except spell and grammar checking on the fly. And inserting photographs into documents. And running in different languages. And making corrections to dumb user mistakes (like not capitalizing the first letter in a word). And being able to fix itself when someone deletes a critical Office file (that's been around since version 2000).
Oh wait, you mean you've never tried StarOffice, either? Now THAT'S a memory hog.
It'll work exactly like Bezerk Network, which has had this for years. You Don't Know Jack, Acrophobia, Get the Picture, etc. has small 15-second commercials in between "rounds". The commercials are done in Flash, and pressing a key on the keyboard brings up the advertiser's web site after the game -- a lot smarter idea than today's banner ads.
Dell actually moved the Windows Context Menu key up to the top of the machine (Thank god. I never used that thing).
Question, though, I use the Windows key fairly often to get at my Start Menu (and it seems to run past full screen apps well). Why doesn't Linux recognize it as a key?
I agree, although I find my Speedstep Pentium III laptop works pretty well. It's nothing amazing, but I can easily get through a copy of The Truman Show on DVD at the airport without the battery dying out (it's an Inspiron 4000).
By the way, if you really want to crunch RC5 keys you should probably get a high-end G4 tower (heavy integer computations). And I wouldn't consider Office "bloatware". Word runs in under 8 megs of RAM. Windows 2000 is bloatware. OS X is bloatware. Office by itself takes up hard drive space, but actually running it does not tax available CPU resources.
No, I'm not really saying that he himself is pandering. I just think we need to find more men "opposed" to the idea of Fair Use and "convert" them (how, I'm not entirely sure).
Unfortunately, while this gentleman has said all the right things, he has come off as being a little too biased towards the Slashdot community. I felt like I was listening to a "typical politician", even if that politician is perhaps refusing lobbies from entertainment corporations (it sure sounds like it).
What we need is to get congressmen who are divided. People who don't know which way to vote on the issues, and gradually change their minds through clever arguing and factual information. This gentleman is a first good step, but he sounds like the nerd who's always been a nerd. Has never really been introduced to the "revelations" involved with thinking outside corporations when it comes to the internet. Only then, when we can sway the fence-riders, will we make a stand.
This is why the model for making money on GNU/Linux is a support oriented one.
Um, but is this really a model? That's like saying the dot-com/advertiser model worked (which we all know didn't). By the way, the numbers were abritrary.
The point I was trying to make (and which you seemed to argue inadvertantly and quite succinctly -- well done) is that the support model is clearly not an applicable "business model". If you backed RedHat up against a wall and said "Tomorrow, you could only make money off support. No boxed copies." (besides the fact that you get support with boxed copies anyway) they'd crumble. There is clearly not enough money to be made in the "let's give the thing away for free to everyone" model.
I try to buy every major revision of Redhat because I think it saves me a lot of time, and it's a good product compared to the alternatives. The money IMHO is well spent, and like it or not, everybody has to eat - charging for support is one model, but there's nothing wrong with selling GPL code.
I'll drink to that.
IE is free as in beer - read the EULA - once you drink the beer, you don't get much else. Except maybe a nasty belch or two!
Uh, well... some of us don't want to bother tweaking the code in our operating systems. I like to code as much as anyone, but my own little college projects. I don't think it's a bad thing when a piece of software is "free" or "Free", it's just another way to look at it.
And besides, considering my experimentation with Netscape 6 on Linux the past month, IE seems to burp a LOT less.;)
How exactly, does a company make any money off mirrors?
Let's say it takes me $300,000 to make my Linux distro ($200,000 for my developers and $100,000 for my internet connection to spit it out -- an exageration to be sure). I sell 5,000 copies of each distro for $30 each. I make $150,000 net.
Even if I mirrored all my connections, I'd still need $200,000 to pull even. And if we were looking at this realistically: say $50,000 to host the net connection as a percentage, then the debt becomes even more: $250,000.
The internet connection is so little of the total cost that "getting a bunch of mirrors" isn't a solution. I love it when a bunch of Linux hobbyists, who clearly don't even recognize the effort that goes forth to do this stuff, complain about paying. I just don't get it.
I pay for my RedHat distro to help the community. They can't rely only on support fees either.
All I've got to say is "Thank God for logic!" Yes, there are Linux programmers who make nothing for their code. But most have steady jobs elsewhere. Programmers at places that serve up Linux, and all they code is Linux, should be compensated.
Why does everything have to be in one place all of the time. Is your house organized like that, having everything in one room?
No, but I'd prefer not having to yell to each of my brothers and sisters, finding out who has the phone if I could help it.
The other main reason is simplicity. I see no security risk in listing other people's (currently stopped) processes, all in one place. Sure, you could do the same thing with multiple utilities (as I'm sure some low-user number Linux heads do -- Goddamn they're out in full force for this article), but most newer users wouldn't have any idea what you're talking about. Telling my mom to "look at the front screen" is a lot easier than saying "change to a virtual terminal, run ps, etc."
Don't know what version of Linux you're using. I hit the eject button on my RedHat laptop and the CD spits out -- an error usually comes a few seconds later.
And I'd like to see you try to pull that off with a floppy disk before unmounting it...
But what if the software he chose clearly wasn't acceptable in Windows 2000? If there were warning flags all over the place, and he just chose to ignore them (I'm thinking of the card game).
All of the software I use with Windows 2000 has been tested with Windows 2000. And guess what? It all works correctly. You wouldn't expect games written in glib0.4 to run in glib2.1 would you? I've had more than a few old Linux apps crash not only the ap but the system itself.
Out of curiousity, I wonder if Linux coders could add one feature Win XP is touting: saving sessions completely, and listing each user with their currently running programs and whether or not they have email -- all in one place.
Wouldn't that be the bomb with developers, who could create different versions of their programs and run them not only in separate memory, but different user spaces as well?
Uh... dude. I shoulda had you here when I tried to explain how to install Debian to my mom. And this is someone who's fairly literate, and installed Windows 2000 on her own machine (without my help).
I think you need to backup your statement with facts.
Slashdot Mirror
Uh pretty often. I don't care too much about security, so often I do all my work in root. But then I've never gotten a virus (both on Windows and Linux side), so I'm sure I'm not as paranoid as I could be.
11Mb/s (current wireless standard) is pretty fast for full motion video. I have been able to watch full motion, full speed video from the web over my cable modem, which is then connected to my wireless hub. Take the laptop anywhere in the house and watch.
Except spell and grammar checking on the fly. And inserting photographs into documents. And running in different languages. And making corrections to dumb user mistakes (like not capitalizing the first letter in a word). And being able to fix itself when someone deletes a critical Office file (that's been around since version 2000).
Oh wait, you mean you've never tried StarOffice, either? Now THAT'S a memory hog.
It'll work exactly like Bezerk Network, which has had this for years. You Don't Know Jack, Acrophobia, Get the Picture, etc. has small 15-second commercials in between "rounds". The commercials are done in Flash, and pressing a key on the keyboard brings up the advertiser's web site after the game -- a lot smarter idea than today's banner ads.
Question, though, I use the Windows key fairly often to get at my Start Menu (and it seems to run past full screen apps well). Why doesn't Linux recognize it as a key?
By the way, if you really want to crunch RC5 keys you should probably get a high-end G4 tower (heavy integer computations). And I wouldn't consider Office "bloatware". Word runs in under 8 megs of RAM. Windows 2000 is bloatware. OS X is bloatware. Office by itself takes up hard drive space, but actually running it does not tax available CPU resources.
No, I'm not really saying that he himself is pandering. I just think we need to find more men "opposed" to the idea of Fair Use and "convert" them (how, I'm not entirely sure).
What we need is to get congressmen who are divided. People who don't know which way to vote on the issues, and gradually change their minds through clever arguing and factual information. This gentleman is a first good step, but he sounds like the nerd who's always been a nerd. Has never really been introduced to the "revelations" involved with thinking outside corporations when it comes to the internet. Only then, when we can sway the fence-riders, will we make a stand.
Almost makes me wish I hadn't bought my Dell Inspiron 4000.
But nothing beats the older version that we're learning in college right now. What is it? RVC?
Um, but is this really a model? That's like saying the dot-com/advertiser model worked (which we all know didn't). By the way, the numbers were abritrary.
The point I was trying to make (and which you seemed to argue inadvertantly and quite succinctly -- well done) is that the support model is clearly not an applicable "business model". If you backed RedHat up against a wall and said "Tomorrow, you could only make money off support. No boxed copies." (besides the fact that you get support with boxed copies anyway) they'd crumble. There is clearly not enough money to be made in the "let's give the thing away for free to everyone" model.
I'll drink to that.
IE is free as in beer - read the EULA - once you drink the beer, you don't get much else. Except maybe a nasty belch or two!
Uh, well... some of us don't want to bother tweaking the code in our operating systems. I like to code as much as anyone, but my own little college projects. I don't think it's a bad thing when a piece of software is "free" or "Free", it's just another way to look at it.
And besides, considering my experimentation with Netscape 6 on Linux the past month, IE seems to burp a LOT less. ;)
Says user #1081. Bias? I don't think so. Not at all.
Let's say it takes me $300,000 to make my Linux distro ($200,000 for my developers and $100,000 for my internet connection to spit it out -- an exageration to be sure). I sell 5,000 copies of each distro for $30 each. I make $150,000 net.
Even if I mirrored all my connections, I'd still need $200,000 to pull even. And if we were looking at this realistically: say $50,000 to host the net connection as a percentage, then the debt becomes even more: $250,000.
The internet connection is so little of the total cost that "getting a bunch of mirrors" isn't a solution. I love it when a bunch of Linux hobbyists, who clearly don't even recognize the effort that goes forth to do this stuff, complain about paying. I just don't get it.
I pay for my RedHat distro to help the community. They can't rely only on support fees either.
Makes a hell of a lot of sense to me.
Helps in having other people justify it, as well.
No, but I'd prefer not having to yell to each of my brothers and sisters, finding out who has the phone if I could help it.
The other main reason is simplicity. I see no security risk in listing other people's (currently stopped) processes, all in one place. Sure, you could do the same thing with multiple utilities (as I'm sure some low-user number Linux heads do -- Goddamn they're out in full force for this article), but most newer users wouldn't have any idea what you're talking about. Telling my mom to "look at the front screen" is a lot easier than saying "change to a virtual terminal, run ps, etc."
Um, it's a little hard to think you're "non-biased towards Linux" when you have such a low user ID. Perhaps you'd like to converse without the bias?
It's a little hard to think you're "non-biased towards Linux" when you have such a low user ID. Perhaps you'd like to converse without the bias?
This is a good post. Someone mod this up.
And I'd like to see you try to pull that off with a floppy disk before unmounting it...
All of the software I use with Windows 2000 has been tested with Windows 2000. And guess what? It all works correctly. You wouldn't expect games written in glib0.4 to run in glib2.1 would you? I've had more than a few old Linux apps crash not only the ap but the system itself.
Too bad it isn't alive enough to actually be running new episodes on Cartoon Network.
Wouldn't that be the bomb with developers, who could create different versions of their programs and run them not only in separate memory, but different user spaces as well?
I think you need to backup your statement with facts.