Thank you for serving our country. Your communication style makes much more sense now.
[...] its still an attempt at correcting someone [...] you have no right to correct anyone but you and yours.
As far as teaching goes, I am sorry you feel that way. It sounds like you feel that you have more right to insult people, than others have to teach each other. You are not alone; and your opposite is here in great numbers as well. The way I see it, I come here to learn -- and I learn about far more than just "the latest tech gadget"; if that was the only value from these forums, I would have left a long time ago.
There are many on here for whom English is not their first language. If I see something funny and make a wordplay about it (I hope you understand that wordplay is different from insulting), it is both to entertain and inform. I am sorry that you saw my post as attempting to belittle someone; I said nothing about the poster, only about the words. (Which reminds me of someone's.sig here, which points that out via opposite humor: "Ideas are beautiful, fragile things. Attack people, not ideas.")
I'm glad you see so well into my psyche regarding my penchant for leaping into action at every spelling error. I am sure you have read all of my public comments from my user page in order to have come to such a conclusion. This paragraph is sarcasm. Did you ask me what gets me motivated? You sure do read in a lot from very little; that says more about you than it does about me.
Yes, if you had tried to be funny about it you both would not have caused someone else to waste their karma points modding you down, and you also would have been more likely to engage in constructive dialog. Of course, this feels mostly constructive, so what do I know?
I work with people from many different countries. I speak one other language, know some of two others, and butcher a fourth. I attempt to communicate with my co-workers in their native languages; we both agree to correct each other when we make mistakes. I've been told it's really cool to watch one of our conversations, because for instance I'll be speaking Portuguese, and the other will be speaking English; we're both practicing our skills, as well as learning from each other.
I apologize that you feel that my humor invokes Godwin's Law. Abuse of the language is not cool, nor is abuse of people who attempt to educate through entertainment. Had I attacked the poster for using the wrong spelling, then your initial response would have been justified. It was not; the moderation is evidence.
This is new for nerds, but the predominant communications medium is the English language. There are right ways and wrong ways to communicate. We're both learning.
By the way, I like the new signature better; the previous one was a bit hurtful. However, it is chopped off -- just mentioning this as it's rare that one sees one's own signature, and you may want to fix it:
This is news for nerds! Give me the latest gadget, the latest bug, information on OS projects! Don't feed me nouns and
Thank you for pointing out that I have a +1, Karma Bonus (which I am not using for this post).
Therefore, that score of 2 which you attempt to denigrate me for has nothing to do with any moderation. I note that you received a -1, Flamebait though. You're right, I was going for funny, rather than saying something negative about the poster's spelling. It was an attempt at humor; I'll freely admit that not everyone smiles at wordplay. Still, no reason to be insulting about it.
Yes, I read Slashdot at night and therefore I do stick with my day job, but thank you for being insulting. To be perfectly sparkling clear: someone read my post in order to get to yours. They didn't think that I deserved a +1, Funny; however, they did feel that your comment grates on us all, and chose to "waste" one of their moderation points making sure you "get it" and be less insulting in the future. At least, that's a positive way to look at it.
Perhaps you should lay off the 420 (that is, your namesake)? I heard tonight on NPR that it (420 = cannabis, for anyone trying to follow along who isn't in on the counter-culture) is strongly correlated with psychosis (no causality, just a correlation). It was on the BBC World News, repeated several times throughout the hour. I couldn't find a link to this new study, but here are two articles about previous studies which have similar data:
I believe you'll find similar if not worse tactics used by most every police force in the world when interrogating prisoners and suspects.
Back in the 90s I had an Israeli coworker who said that torture was okay -- that his government routinely used it to find terrorists who came in from Palestine and blew themselves up on Israeli buses. I was shocked, and said torture was never the right answer because (as your other responder said), people under physical duress will tell their tormentors whatever they can to make the duress stop.
I also said that my government would never resort to such tactics.
Boy, do I have egg on my face now. We need to impeach.
The executive is not rewriting property law. It is making clear that assets used to further a war are subject to seizure, as they have always been in wartime and getting a move on a program to do just that. It's about time.
Huh. I read some news before I came here. I saw an article about a letter "written by an undersecretary of defense named Eric Edelman" which states:
"Premature and public discussion of the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq," Edelman writes, "reinforces enemy propaganda that the United States will abandon its allies in Iraq, much as we are perceived to have done in Vietnam, Lebanon and Somalia."
Edelman adds: "Such talk understandably unnerves the very same Iraqi allies we are asking to assume enormous personal risks."
So, combining that letter and this new ruling, is Bush about to take away Hilary's 36 million dollar campaign war chest? Chilling, indeed...
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When artistic concerns are overshadowed by the need to please one's patron, art suffers.
Likewise, when artistic concerns are overshadowed by the need to get something in yer belly, art disappears.
Since stopping eating food with HFCS I have lost 30 lbs.
65, here. Mostly (50) due to giving up sodas; the rest came this year when I gave up HFCS as a New Year's resolution (and later found that the bread I bought had it -- now I read every label).
It takes a big man to admit that he made a mistake.
Agreed, but somehow I don't think he got a Funny mod in the 3 minutes in between his two posts (and really, that would be more like "1 minute before deciding to re-post, then type up the second post, preview it, then submit it"). Like that old saying, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence -- except Slashdot doesn't expose moderation time data. Well played though, just next time do something else for 20 minutes:).
The AC that responded had a great point, however eloquently spoken...
Just to clarify what I meant: we entered into this war under false pretenses. Bush recently announced that someone in his administration leaked Plame's identity, but that he considers it "old news" that we should just forget about.
Meanwhile, my neighbors are dying over there. So yes, I consider it criminal that we're still there, and no, I don't think my tax dollars should be spent keeping some other country which isn't benefiting us in the slightest out of civil war (even if we made them our 51st state, it would take decades for the oil revenues to pay for the expenses already incurred in the war).
[...] all they hear is how we want to abandon them and don't care what happens after we are gone.
You're absolutely right. I don't care what happens to the Iraqis. Bush does, as he thinks that's where the future of energy comes from. Do you see him doing any fucking thing about the crisis in Darfur?
I heard General Clark on NPR tonight talking about how the Iranians and Syrians are keeping the quagmire going, because Bush has already announced (years ago, when this started) that he wants regime change in all the neighboring countries; so, they keep arming the Iraqis to keep our military busy, which reduces the chances that we'll turn our military-industrial complex against those countries.
If you were them, wouldn't you do the same?
And to respond to one thing the other ex-Pentagon responder said:
You are saving lives of Iraqi civilians, capturing insurgents and terrorists, and doing much good on a local scale, but, because of the *leadership*, that good does not translate into an ability to "win".
Every day we kill some insurgents. Every day, there are at least as many Iraqi civilian casualties as reported insurgents killed. This is a great insurgency recruiting tool!
We need to stop killing people, and get out of a country that had nothing to do with 9/11. It reminds me of the drunk looking for his keys under the lamppost, who lost them over in the darkness, but at least it's light over here...
I do however take issue with your comparing this instance with our current administration and congress and the military. Politicians are the government that you refer to, not those of us on the ground that are carrying out the fight.
I'm reminded of the quote, "A job not worth doing is not worth doing well".
In other words, it really doesn't matter what a great job you and yours are doing. I would rather you weren't there in the first place. That is no reflection on your skills. But you have to admit it makes for a distressing dichotomy: I want to support the troops...
He probably picked a couple up off eBay for two grand; that he's willing to blow half that on a 10-second video clip testifies to how much more he's getting in return.
1 minute 37 seconds to be precise:)
And I'm sure he made that back in advertisements (i.e. blender sales -- there were no ads on the page); plus, the eBay he mentioned at the end is now up to $570 (he's paying shipping, plus the $400 blender, but still -- I applaud his marketing genius!).
1) Make so many laws that everyone is guilty of something.
Here begins one of my favorite quotes:
"You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against -- then you'll know that this is not the age for beautiful gestures. We're after power and we mean it. Your fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you'd better get wise to it. There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted -- and you create a nation of law-breakers -- and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system...that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be easier to deal with."
- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
She wrote that in the 50s. It's so relevant today. You know it took a Constitutional Amendment to outlaw alcohol? Yet today we have so many more substances that are illegal, with far worse penalties than alcohol possession or distribution gave in the 20s! And no amendments were passed in order to outlaw them. Does that seem rational?
Be specific about what you support, and don't be led to think that keeping it as a government secret now that it's too little too late is actually giving you any privacy or security. Because it isn't.
Also, the government is very good at "losing" laptops containing these databases...
While you're right about ClamAV not having real-time virus detection and can only detect an infection after it has files on your machine, it's not true that it gets updates slower. I remember reading a couple years ago that, out of the most recent 50 viruses found, ClamAV was the first to have the signature for it, 80% of the time. That's pretty good for something that's free.
A rootkit though, once it's on it's tough to detect; ClamAV will need to develop real-time scanning, drivers that load before all others after installation (which means installation will require a reboot), or both, in order to be a complete system.
Ok, I found that reference:, published almost exactly 2 years ago:
As it turned out, ClamAV doesn't swim -- it flies. In Hyde's own tests, using two of the world's five top commercial AV products and 50 new virus variants, Clam AV was the first product to release a virus signature for new threats nearly 80 percent of the time.
All Swedish ISPs can subscribe to this list and add it to their DNS servers so that any of their customers that tries to lookup these addresses will instead get the IP to a webserver that informs you that the site you wanted is bad.
Thank you for serving our country. Your communication style makes much more sense now.
As far as teaching goes, I am sorry you feel that way. It sounds like you feel that you have more right to insult people, than others have to teach each other. You are not alone; and your opposite is here in great numbers as well. The way I see it, I come here to learn -- and I learn about far more than just "the latest tech gadget"; if that was the only value from these forums, I would have left a long time ago.
There are many on here for whom English is not their first language. If I see something funny and make a wordplay about it (I hope you understand that wordplay is different from insulting), it is both to entertain and inform. I am sorry that you saw my post as attempting to belittle someone; I said nothing about the poster, only about the words. (Which reminds me of someone's .sig here, which points that out via opposite humor: "Ideas are beautiful, fragile things. Attack people, not ideas.")
I'm glad you see so well into my psyche regarding my penchant for leaping into action at every spelling error. I am sure you have read all of my public comments from my user page in order to have come to such a conclusion. This paragraph is sarcasm. Did you ask me what gets me motivated? You sure do read in a lot from very little; that says more about you than it does about me.
Yes, if you had tried to be funny about it you both would not have caused someone else to waste their karma points modding you down, and you also would have been more likely to engage in constructive dialog. Of course, this feels mostly constructive, so what do I know?
I work with people from many different countries. I speak one other language, know some of two others, and butcher a fourth. I attempt to communicate with my co-workers in their native languages; we both agree to correct each other when we make mistakes. I've been told it's really cool to watch one of our conversations, because for instance I'll be speaking Portuguese, and the other will be speaking English; we're both practicing our skills, as well as learning from each other.
I apologize that you feel that my humor invokes Godwin's Law. Abuse of the language is not cool, nor is abuse of people who attempt to educate through entertainment. Had I attacked the poster for using the wrong spelling, then your initial response would have been justified. It was not; the moderation is evidence.
This is new for nerds, but the predominant communications medium is the English language. There are right ways and wrong ways to communicate. We're both learning.
By the way, I like the new signature better; the previous one was a bit hurtful. However, it is chopped off -- just mentioning this as it's rare that one sees one's own signature, and you may want to fix it:
Very truly yours,
Thing 1
Thank you for pointing out that I have a +1, Karma Bonus (which I am not using for this post).
Therefore, that score of 2 which you attempt to denigrate me for has nothing to do with any moderation. I note that you received a -1, Flamebait though. You're right, I was going for funny, rather than saying something negative about the poster's spelling. It was an attempt at humor; I'll freely admit that not everyone smiles at wordplay. Still, no reason to be insulting about it.
Yes, I read Slashdot at night and therefore I do stick with my day job, but thank you for being insulting. To be perfectly sparkling clear: someone read my post in order to get to yours. They didn't think that I deserved a +1, Funny; however, they did feel that your comment grates on us all, and chose to "waste" one of their moderation points making sure you "get it" and be less insulting in the future. At least, that's a positive way to look at it.
Perhaps you should lay off the 420 (that is, your namesake)? I heard tonight on NPR that it (420 = cannabis, for anyone trying to follow along who isn't in on the counter-culture) is strongly correlated with psychosis (no causality, just a correlation). It was on the BBC World News, repeated several times throughout the hour. I couldn't find a link to this new study, but here are two articles about previous studies which have similar data:
Cannabis hospital admissions rise
Cannabis 'disrupts brain centre'
I try to treat others with respect and set a good example. I'm sorry that my behavior so offended you.
"Thanks for the beer wine and ice cream!"
"What's he going to do, blink us to death?"
"Gecko-Roman wrestling!"
"The Andrew Lloyd Weber grill!"
"I want to decide who lives and who dies."
Nice, thanks for the memories! :)
Don't know about you, but my gate is controlled by its hinges.
Back in the 90s I had an Israeli coworker who said that torture was okay -- that his government routinely used it to find terrorists who came in from Palestine and blew themselves up on Israeli buses. I was shocked, and said torture was never the right answer because (as your other responder said), people under physical duress will tell their tormentors whatever they can to make the duress stop.
I also said that my government would never resort to such tactics.
Boy, do I have egg on my face now. We need to impeach.
Breaking news: Cheney cooks his relatives!
Nice: 3 double entendres in 8 words. I love joke compression.
"A baby seal walks into a club."
And my favorite, two words and a gesture: "Short term ..." (snapping fingers)
<adam savage> Well there's yer problem! </adam savage>
Huh. I read some news before I came here. I saw an article about a letter "written by an undersecretary of defense named Eric Edelman" which states:
So, combining that letter and this new ruling, is Bush about to take away Hilary's 36 million dollar campaign war chest? Chilling, indeed...
Likewise, when artistic concerns are overshadowed by the need to get something in yer belly, art disappears.
I'd rather have suffering art, than no art...
LOL, reminds me of something my winner brother told me, "Anyone who would date you is not worth dating."
"Why do you have a captain's wheel around your waist?"
65, here. Mostly (50) due to giving up sodas; the rest came this year when I gave up HFCS as a New Year's resolution (and later found that the bread I bought had it -- now I read every label).
Depends how many people read your post :)
Agreed, but somehow I don't think he got a Funny mod in the 3 minutes in between his two posts (and really, that would be more like "1 minute before deciding to re-post, then type up the second post, preview it, then submit it"). Like that old saying, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence -- except Slashdot doesn't expose moderation time data. Well played though, just next time do something else for 20 minutes :).
The AC that responded had a great point, however eloquently spoken...
Just to clarify what I meant: we entered into this war under false pretenses. Bush recently announced that someone in his administration leaked Plame's identity, but that he considers it "old news" that we should just forget about.
Meanwhile, my neighbors are dying over there. So yes, I consider it criminal that we're still there, and no, I don't think my tax dollars should be spent keeping some other country which isn't benefiting us in the slightest out of civil war (even if we made them our 51st state, it would take decades for the oil revenues to pay for the expenses already incurred in the war).
You're absolutely right. I don't care what happens to the Iraqis. Bush does, as he thinks that's where the future of energy comes from. Do you see him doing any fucking thing about the crisis in Darfur?
I heard General Clark on NPR tonight talking about how the Iranians and Syrians are keeping the quagmire going, because Bush has already announced (years ago, when this started) that he wants regime change in all the neighboring countries; so, they keep arming the Iraqis to keep our military busy, which reduces the chances that we'll turn our military-industrial complex against those countries.
If you were them, wouldn't you do the same?
And to respond to one thing the other ex-Pentagon responder said:
Every day we kill some insurgents. Every day, there are at least as many Iraqi civilian casualties as reported insurgents killed. This is a great insurgency recruiting tool!
We need to stop killing people, and get out of a country that had nothing to do with 9/11. It reminds me of the drunk looking for his keys under the lamppost, who lost them over in the darkness, but at least it's light over here...
Someone listened. Thanks! :)
Sorry, YES!!!!?
Can't find the quote, but it's something like "when government efficiency outweighs individual rights, we get fascism."
I'm reminded of the quote, "A job not worth doing is not worth doing well".
In other words, it really doesn't matter what a great job you and yours are doing. I would rather you weren't there in the first place. That is no reflection on your skills. But you have to admit it makes for a distressing dichotomy: I want to support the troops...
1 minute 37 seconds to be precise :)
And I'm sure he made that back in advertisements (i.e. blender sales -- there were no ads on the page); plus, the eBay he mentioned at the end is now up to $570 (he's paying shipping, plus the $400 blender, but still -- I applaud his marketing genius!).
Conversely: have the good sense to know how to make far more resources from few resources by creatively destroying them.
(They just pocketed a ton of ad revenue!)
Here begins one of my favorite quotes:
She wrote that in the 50s. It's so relevant today. You know it took a Constitutional Amendment to outlaw alcohol? Yet today we have so many more substances that are illegal, with far worse penalties than alcohol possession or distribution gave in the 20s! And no amendments were passed in order to outlaw them. Does that seem rational?
Also, the government is very good at "losing" laptops containing these databases...
While you're right about ClamAV not having real-time virus detection and can only detect an infection after it has files on your machine, it's not true that it gets updates slower. I remember reading a couple years ago that, out of the most recent 50 viruses found, ClamAV was the first to have the signature for it, 80% of the time. That's pretty good for something that's free.
A rootkit though, once it's on it's tough to detect; ClamAV will need to develop real-time scanning, drivers that load before all others after installation (which means installation will require a reboot), or both, in order to be a complete system.
Ok, I found that reference:, published almost exactly 2 years ago:
I foresee a market demand for this list...