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  1. Re:Bullshit on American Lung Association Pushes For Ban On Electronic Cigarettes · · Score: 1

    I find the assertions that children are going to purchase e-cigarettes mind boggling. E-cigarette kits at mall kiosks typically sell for over $100.00 US. The cheapest kit to be had online is around $35.00. If some 12 year old wants to experiment with smoking, which is he actually going to do, pay all of his XBox game money for an electronic cigarette, or swipe a few tobacco cigarettes from a relative, the relative of a friend, or the 18 year old down the block? Seriously, the e-cigarette can frustrate adults in the beginning. Some have even returned to smoking because lighting a regular cigarette is easy and there is a definite learning curve to using an e-cigarette. No child is going to have the patience for that, they're too busy looking for the quickest possible means to an end.

  2. Re:The E-cigs aren't exactly GOOD for your lungs.. on American Lung Association Pushes For Ban On Electronic Cigarettes · · Score: 1

    What is in the inhaled mixture of an e-cig other than the nicotine? Anyone know by chance?

    Propylene Glycol and flavorings. 3 ingredients total. Propylene Glycol is commonly used in fog machines, including the ones you can buy at discount stores during Halloween.

  3. Re:The E-cigs aren't exactly GOOD for your lungs.. on American Lung Association Pushes For Ban On Electronic Cigarettes · · Score: 1

    Then maybe the ALA should get to work banning all vehicles and factory production, since they are the biggest contributors to those airborne solids. We can go back to riding horses and making all of our own clothing and household goods.

    The ingredients in e-liquid are propylene glycol, nicotine and flavoring, less ingredients than the patch, gum, lozenge or inhaler and approximately the same amount of carcinogenics. Propylene Glycol in itself is even being looked at for use in the air systems of large public places, such as schools, to inhibit the transfer of airborne infections.

    Why will some people not understand that it's 3 ingredients or 599, because most e-cigarette users will simply go back to smoking after a ban. If you have to share space with a smoker for any reason, which would you rather breathe?

  4. Re:Good article on American Lung Association Pushes For Ban On Electronic Cigarettes · · Score: 1

    This is not entirely true. Some people have looked into the cartriges in the e-cigs and have found all sorts of interesting stuff like anti-freeze and unknown compounds.

    http://class-actions.lawyers.com/blogs/archives/1781-The-Dangers-of-E-Cigarettes.html

    Actually that article was written by a lawyer, and one who's firm specializes in class actions, product liability, customer fraud etc. Can you say McDonald's coffee? He is parroting the FDA's flawed and incomplete study, where yes, the FDA found trace amounts of diethylene glycol in one single cartridge out of nineteen tested. The fact is though, the same chemical can be found in much higher amounts in tobacco cigarettes. You yourself will probably inhale much more than the amount found just from going about your day tomorrow - from the lotions, antiperspirants and cleaners you may use to the printer ink, and let's not forget antifreeze and brake fluid vapors during your commute. No other study has found diethylene glycol in any other e-liquid or cartridge. The FDA also did not list any margin for error within their testing parameters. By the way, the main ingredient in e-cigarette liquid is propelyne glycol. It is commonly used in fog machines for haunted houses, rock concerts, stage plays, and home units sold in stores during Halloween.