Qtopia is definately not out of the market. There are other Qtopia devices (phones included) waiting to be released. and, you can still buy Zaurus from Japan, and those exporters.
distcc is ok, until you want to add quite a few machines. Problem with distcc, is that it doesn't scale well.
This is where Trolltech's
teambuilder shines. Free for personal use with up to 3 machines, and available for large scale commercial compiler operations, in a variety of CPU's. Is very easy to setup and has a very cool gui monitoring system.
uuhhhhh, I hate to break this to you, but Real's codecs ARE inspectible, modifiable, and portable.... in source form! All you need to do, is sign the correct license.
That page at TuxMobil has gross information about Qt/Embedded, saying the problem with it is it is not a true X-server. It was designed that way. No need for bloated X libs, etc. It fails to mention Qt/E is dual licensed with GPL and QPL. It also fails to mention Qtopia Phone, which already has much interest from Phone manufacturers, and Qtopia Pda, which ships on the worlds most popular Linux PDA - Sharp Zaurus.
North Amercian market is behind the times for a lot of devices. Won't be until 2006
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your post is redundant. GPL is GPL. If you want GPL Qt on windows, you are free to write the code yourself. As if Trolltech's GPL isn't as good as the GNU GPL. Give this a rest.
>The use of GTK+ maintains the freedom of the Linux >platform.
>The use of Qt, for proprietary applications, results in a >platform that is locked in to Trolltech.
So you are saying that freedom in linux means proprietary companies can write proprietary closed source code, and sell it on Linux. That is not about free software. Linux is about free software, which the LGPL disregards.
Which is why Qt is more about free software than GTK will ever be.
Obviously Cisco tested both extensively. It's their conclusion, not mine. Using Teambuilder, you don't have to muck about with heaps of settings, trying to discover which one works best, it just works. Out of the box.
Sure distcc might be good for a few machines, but it doesn't scale well. Trolltech's Teambuilder is much better suited for large scale distributed development environment. Ask Cisco. They evaluated both distcc and Teambuilder on huge multi processor solaris systems. Guess who they chose, as it scaled better. That's right! Trolltech's Teambuilder! Plus, Teambuilder is much easier to setup, and has very nice monitor to monitor your compile farm.
Teambuilder
Up till now, no Opie/Oz dev has had a Zaurus 5600. I happen to have one on my desk, so oz on 5600 should be working better shortly, as there are only a couple issues that really need work.
Yes, it would be a good idea for them to license Qt embedded, wouldn't it?
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SCO is confusing the/. effect for a DDOS. Stop visiting sco.com!! They are using the/. effect for their own FUD purposes. And the media is simply eatting up anything SCO says as fact.
If a customer is worried anout paying $1550/year for a license, point out how minimal that is compared to what they pay developers per year. In most commercial outlets, Trolltech's license prices are a trivial part of the total cost of development.
Qt's function naming provide an easy way to remember them.
Trolltech is mostly owned by it's employees. It's not going anywhere anytime soon. Can you say the same for Sun? Is it mostly owned by its employees? Is Microsoft? or IBM? Who ownes those companies?
I am sure Trolltech's attorneys are competent, and ok'd or wrote the licenses correctly.
Yes it is. Which is why Gtk should not be used in free linux systems. My point being, the only reason why the LGPL exists, is to provide businesses a way to create closed source software, linking/compiling against free software.
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I wish sharp would do this, but o well. I love my zaurus, Just wish there was some linux software for syncing.... Ever heard of Qtopia Desktop?
Qtopia is definately not out of the market.
There are other Qtopia devices (phones included) waiting to be released.
and, you can still buy Zaurus from Japan, and those exporters.
distcc is ok, until you want to add quite a few machines. Problem with distcc, is that it doesn't scale well. This is where Trolltech's teambuilder shines. Free for personal use with up to 3 machines, and available for large scale commercial compiler operations, in a variety of CPU's. Is very easy to setup and has a very cool gui monitoring system.
uuhhhhh, I hate to break this to you, but Real's codecs ARE inspectible, modifiable, and portable.... in source form! All you need to do, is sign the correct license.
I would have to agree with you. a Zaurus SL-6000 with the gutenbrowser for qtopia application for easy project gutenberg access. and your all set!
That page at TuxMobil has gross information about Qt/Embedded, saying the problem with it is it is not a true X-server. It was designed that way. No need for bloated X libs, etc. It fails to mention Qt/E is dual licensed with GPL and QPL. It also fails to mention Qtopia Phone, which already has much interest from Phone manufacturers, and Qtopia Pda, which ships on the worlds most popular Linux PDA - Sharp Zaurus.
Qtopia recently received the LinuxUser & Developer Award in the category "Best Embedded Linux" Qtopia wins LinuxUser & Developer Award
North Amercian market is behind the times for a lot of devices. Won't be until 2006
your post is redundant. GPL is GPL. If you want GPL Qt on windows, you are free to write the code yourself. As if Trolltech's GPL isn't as good as the GNU GPL. Give this a rest.
>The use of GTK+ maintains the freedom of the Linux >platform.
>The use of Qt, for proprietary applications, results in a >platform that is locked in to Trolltech.
So you are saying that freedom in linux means proprietary companies can write proprietary closed source code, and sell it on Linux. That is not about free software. Linux is about free software, which the LGPL disregards.
Which is why Qt is more about free software than GTK will ever be.
Obviously Cisco tested both extensively. It's their conclusion, not mine.
Using Teambuilder, you don't have to muck about with heaps of settings, trying to discover which one works best, it just works. Out of the box.
well for joe schmoe, teambuilder comes in a personal edition allowing up to 3 computers.
Sure distcc might be good for a few machines, but it doesn't scale well. Trolltech's Teambuilder is much better suited for large scale distributed development environment. Ask Cisco. They evaluated both distcc and Teambuilder on huge multi processor solaris systems. Guess who they chose, as it scaled better. That's right! Trolltech's Teambuilder! Plus, Teambuilder is much easier to setup, and has very nice monitor to monitor your compile farm. Teambuilder
no way. no how.
The point is, Trolltech is owned by it's employees, and why would they want to give up their ownership?
ummm. probably that the employees own most of TT, and it's not for sale.
Qtopia runs on the framebuffer. No need for X. That way, you have more space for applications.
"I'm not wearing my OPIE hat much anymore. A new release is planned, but is progressing very slowly due to lack of time to spend on it right now."
The last copyright was 2001. The project you mention is dead.
a Qtopia commercial developers license is only $195 (USD).
Qtopia Developer Licensing
You mean something running this?
Qtopia Phone Edition
Up till now, no Opie/Oz dev has had a Zaurus 5600. I happen to have one on my desk, so oz on 5600 should be working better shortly, as there are only a couple issues that really need work.
If it runs linux, Opie can be 'ported' to it, easily. Opie already runs on a number of devices.
Yes, it would be a good idea for them to license Qt embedded, wouldn't it?
SCO is confusing the /. effect for a DDOS. Stop visiting sco.com!! /. effect for their own FUD purposes. And the media is simply eatting up anything SCO says as fact.
They are using the
If a customer is worried anout paying $1550/year for a license, point out how minimal that is compared to what they pay developers per year. In most commercial outlets, Trolltech's license prices are a trivial part of the total cost of development.
Qt's function naming provide an easy way to
remember them.
Trolltech is mostly owned by it's employees. It's not going anywhere anytime soon. Can you say the same for Sun? Is it mostly owned by its employees? Is Microsoft? or IBM? Who ownes those companies?
I am sure Trolltech's attorneys are competent, and ok'd or wrote the licenses correctly.
Yes it is. Which is why Gtk should not be used in free linux systems. My point being, the only reason why the LGPL exists, is to provide businesses a way to create closed source software, linking/compiling against free software.