Good consultants have good ethics, and are rewarded for it.
When I did consulting, I tried to make the best recommendation for the client.
I was asked "wasn't I worried I'd be putting myself out of a job?"
and I said "that's my goal. that way, the next time you need a recommendation or new solution, you'll remember how good the solution I brought last time worked, and you'll call me."
The only reason bad consultants are able to continually rip-off companies is, they make a bad solution and the company figures they already have the investment in the solution and want to get the same consultant to fix it. This is a slippery slope to losing cash quickly.
A host is a host from coast to coast, but no one uses a host that's close
DesktopX and Object Desktop by Stardock aren't just for skinning windows. (WindowBlinds by Stardock accomplishes this)
DesktopX and Object Desktop together with the AquaInk theme create a layer on top of the cruddy windows gui that not only LOOKS like osX but RESPONDS like osX... apps like the email and analog clock are suddenly on the desktop floating with drop shadows, the dock zooms and moves like it does on osX... this isn't a rip-off of only look, it's a rip-off of functionality.
A skin is one thing- a complete thievery is another.
A host is a host from coast to coast, but no one uses a host that's close
OsX is skinnable, and it doesn't solve anything.
I forget exactly where the skin site is for OsX but people have already skinned the login screen, and the interface widgets.
I think there's a link at www.resexcellence.org...
Apple still designed quartz and the appearance for it. Defending themselves against Stardock who sells a product that makes windows feel like osX is clearly a violation of Apple.
Now I like Gnome and its freedom, but it's wrong to steal something that's not licensed as free.
Period.
A host is a host from coast to coast, but no one uses a host that's close
There are flaws in my statements that don't cover high-end CAD applications. And I'm as aware of hot-key+mouse combos in Gimp as I am of key+mouse combos in MacOS... they're common.
They're also not enough. Think of the evil side of this, where every application has its own keys+mouse combos to remember.
You said that you're not sure a computer could handle as many as 4 inflections or more, especially with ambient noise.
We have more computing power than ever before- we have only to eliminate the bottlenecks and use this power to do something revolutionary instead of doing the same old same old in 10 seconds less.
I'm ready for a leap forward.
A host is a host from coast to coast, but no one uses a host that's close
Jeff Raskin's point was NOT:
it's UNIX, it's backward.
his point IS:
It's an operating system, the paradigm for which is backwards.
Computers, according to Raskin, should operate more like appliances. Reliably and simply.
Start typing at the keyboard, and it's a document.
start doodling at the tablet, and it's a graphics file. Make the computer as simple as a consumer television.
Linguists have talked about this for some time-
The computer interface consists of a mouse and keyboard.
The mouse knows one word with modifier states. That word is "click." it can be modified with "right-", "double-" "middle-" or even "scroll-wheel"
The keyboard is great, but slow, and the computer command line understands words, but usually requires two and three letter commands that need to be learnt, like a new language.
The concept of an OS (cli or gui) is backwards and outdated for most things. It's very powerful, very functional, and even pretty when skinned with jelly-beans.
But let's get forward thinking-- voice-controlled (and I mean, good voice controlled, not viavoice or dragon from two years ago) and gesture oriented.
command line was pioneering in 1968 or 9.
the mouse was incredible when Engelbart thought of it.
Click and Drag was cool at PARC and Apple.
Microsoft was innovative when they figured out how to market the masses to death, club OEMs into submission and buy up any product that was halfway decent.
All of these things are old news. Yes they're being improved upon, but the improvements are EVOLUTIONARY.
Raskin is interested in the REVOLUTIONARY.
So am I.
I'd like to ditch my keyboard and mouse, put on two gauntlets and a headset mic, and gesture and speak to my computer. Oh, and make the gauntlets and headset mic use bluetooth-- I like to walk around my office when I'm dictating.
This comment is copyright of ME. using this comment without my permission is violating my ownership rights.:}
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If I can have my speech recognized *accurately* then I can gain in productivity.
Real world proof are the articles of Charles W Moore at www.macopinion.com and www.applelinks.com
He creates all his articles using iListen for Macintosh.
If I can do the same with my linux boxen, then this is a dramatic leap forward for me.
A host is a host from coast to coast, but no one uses a host that's close
Yes, there's many different office applications available.
The competition is what makes them improve. If there were only one office application, it's arguable that, yes, the open-source community would make improvements for improvements' sake.
But I doubt it. I fully believe that the only reason these projects come about is because they see the need to improve on the work of others, and to do it as a separate project.
Applix was among the first and best, and it is a shame the future is up in the air.
Corel's wordperfect wasn't all bad, either. I currently am posting from the browser within StarOffice, just because it happens to be open...
without the competition, I wouldn't have had the choice, and moving to Linux would have been a lot more difficult when I did it three years ago.
Hopefully the other projects will continue to mature to fill this void.
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Re:Other historical tragedies.
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The Challenger
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todah l'cha l' comment shelcha.
Glad it was you who raised the issue of what the rest of us are to do while a certain other group is praying on school time.
When I was in High School years back, Christmas trees were in the school office, decorations on classroom doors, etc..
but then, this was the same school that had a Vice-Principal who counted my Yom Kippur absence as un-excused.
I believe his comment to the absence review board was, "if he's going to claim a religious holiday, at least let it be a real religion."
But I got him back. I dated his daughter.
As for Challenger, I was in the only class in the elementary school that didn't watch the launch on television. I remember riding home on the bus that day being upset that we hadn't seen the launch, and having the other kids ask me, "did you see it, did you see it, I can't believe it!" and not knowing what happened (they wouldn't tell me) until I got home and saw the television.
I sequestered myself in the basement among my Odyssey magazines and posters and watched the footage of the disaster repeatedly for the next 12 hours. I still know every frame from memory. I also have the local newspapers from that fateful day.
A host is a host from coast to coast, but no one uses a host that's close
When I was shopping for my first pda, I looked at the e-mate (newton variant) and ended up buying a palm pilot professional.
As near as I can recollect, a brother of mine in DKE had a newton in 93, and really dug it.
My first real experience with a newton for any prolonged time was the guided tour for the Star Wars exhibit at the Smithsonian two years ago.
The whole guided tour was done on a newton, with star wars animation and sounds as well as the narrator telling about the different models and costumes from the movies.
If I could get that tour prog in its entirety, I'd get on ebay right now and have me a newton.
It'd be in fine company with the other PDA's I own:
Palm Pilot Pro (1mb)
Palm III with TRG upgrade to 8mb
m100 with 8mb
Handspring Visor Deluxe (w/backup springboard and phone module)
Everex winCE device
Philips WinCE device
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It's important to remember that when you throw out old code, you can be throwing out hours of productivity and learned knowledge in the from of incorporated bugfixes.
Was is *really* important to throw out the ftp code in netscape that understood all 60 types of servers to connect to? surely there was something worth saving.
Yes, spaghetti code is nasty, but if developers spent more time reading the code they have on hand, re-use would be more prevalent.
An opinion is simply that, and I'm entitled to mine.
If you feel baited to flame me for a perspective that differs from your own, well then, that's more about you than me.
A host is a host from coast to coast, but no one uses a host that's close
Ah but when Darth Vader dies and reveals removes the mask so he can see his son with with his own eyes, Good and Evil aren't so clear-cut-
Was he Evil, and if so, how can Evil become Good?
Or are there grayer shades of Good and Evil that only become clear when Ewoks chirp and dance wildly and pass out that good Ewok festive beverage?
Does the movie also show that it's okay to rebel against your father, he'll forgive you in the end?
I still have my action figures, millenium falcon, at-st, rancor, jabba playset, hoth playset, dagobah playset, and an x-wing. but the x-wing is missing one of its wings.
We were poor back then and bought the x-wing used from the son of one of my dad's co-workers.
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Les Paul began recording in 1932. His era of biggest hits with Mary Ford, including the Les Paul Television Show, was in the 50's. So yes, you're right...
I guess I was responding to the notion that older music (even if it's as recent as the 20th century) has no value.
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70 year old music?
Easy.
Les Paul and his trio/ Les Paul and Mary Ford.
Django Reinhardt and Stephane Grapelli/hot jazz club of france.
Gershwin, Ira and George
Berlin, Irving
Robert Johnson
Big Bill Broonzy
Blind Lemon Jefferson
and others.
all over 70 years.
In my cd player at this moment is Modest Mussorgsky's Boris Gudonov.
Either you failed at music appreciation class or were one of the poor souls who didn't bother to take it. Your loss.
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You know, you're right, this thread is a shameful mess.
When I first contributed to it , I didn't mean for it to end with this outcome.
It seems to me that far too many shortsighted people accuse others of being nazis and or communists on slashdot, which only shows their ignorance culturally as well as historically.
read my addition to this thread earlier where I try and establish that I'm not a limited ignorant shortsighted American, or at least, not in this context. (ignorance is a hard thing to claim a complete lack of; my perl skills stink.)
Hopefully next time we post in the same thread it won't be on something as disgraceful as this.
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Um, clarification:
I went to spain in 92, italy and austria in 98, from 98-2000,
I went abroad to Israel for two years, returned to the states with the Israeli who became my wife. All my travels and experiences were very valuable, and taught me to value America, something I didn't give much thought to before living elsewhere.
A host is a host from coast to coast, but no one uses a host that's close
Um... maybe folks have forgotten the stir over immigration laws and B-1 visas we had on/. a while back, but thanks to immigration and being the melting pot, the land of opportunity,
Americans are either foreigners-naturalized, or descendants of naturalized foreigners. So having foreign brainpower (okay, you left of Robert Oppenheimer, my favorite quote is "We're all sons of bitches now.") to create the atomic bomb is not a rain on the parade...
America was/is superior because we attract the best foreigners to work amongst us.
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Really? I spoke without your first-hand knowledge, but was under the impression that osX and osX server in its newest incarnation would be sharing the same codebase, only one benefitting from server apps and server appropriate capabilities.
Server in its current incarnation (1.2?) is mach 2.5 with bsd4.4 and a primitive version of classic called bluebox, no?
OsX for the desktop is mach 3.0 with Bsd4.4 and a fanciful set of gui, new apis, and display pdf instead of display postscript.
certainly apple would bring their server os up to the same kernel that their desktop os is using. Have you posted anything about the new version of Server? can you say anything about it and how you know it's not from the same codebase as darwin?
very curious.
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The DCMA is an abomination. We have the right to play content we purchase on any machine we choose. If we have to do so creatively, so be it. It's certainly our own business if we want to create such a solution, and because the solution contains no proprietary code, it's ours to free as we wish.
As for mp3s, you might have a point- it's illegal to possess an mp3 you don't own, and it's illegal to encode mp3s without a licensed encoder. (makes me wonder, Steve gives iTunes away for free! How?)
Hence, we came up with Ogg Vorbis, and it's completely legal to encode those as much as we like. It's still illegal to have oggs of songs we didn't pay royalties for, but so is making mix tapes to give to girlfriends, which I'm sure you've done...
oh wait, you never had a girlfriend.
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underneath the painted titanium (bare titanium stains when exposed to moisture) is a reinforcing layer of carbon fiber to lend it strength.
Don't get me wrong, I'm saving up to afford a TiBook, but you should know the ins and outs of the book before you represent speculation as fact. oh wait, I'm sorry.... this is/.
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Good consultants have good ethics, and are rewarded for it.
When I did consulting, I tried to make the best recommendation for the client.
I was asked "wasn't I worried I'd be putting myself out of a job?"
and I said "that's my goal. that way, the next time you need a recommendation or new solution, you'll remember how good the solution I brought last time worked, and you'll call me."
The only reason bad consultants are able to continually rip-off companies is, they make a bad solution and the company figures they already have the investment in the solution and want to get the same consultant to fix it. This is a slippery slope to losing cash quickly.
A host is a host from coast to coast, but no one uses a host that's close
DesktopX and Object Desktop by Stardock aren't just for skinning windows. (WindowBlinds by Stardock accomplishes this)
DesktopX and Object Desktop together with the AquaInk theme create a layer on top of the cruddy windows gui that not only LOOKS like osX but RESPONDS like osX... apps like the email and analog clock are suddenly on the desktop floating with drop shadows, the dock zooms and moves like it does on osX... this isn't a rip-off of only look, it's a rip-off of functionality.
A skin is one thing- a complete thievery is another.
A host is a host from coast to coast, but no one uses a host that's close
OsX is skinnable, and it doesn't solve anything.
I forget exactly where the skin site is for OsX but people have already skinned the login screen, and the interface widgets.
I think there's a link at www.resexcellence.org...
Apple still designed quartz and the appearance for it. Defending themselves against Stardock who sells a product that makes windows feel like osX is clearly a violation of Apple.
Now I like Gnome and its freedom, but it's wrong to steal something that's not licensed as free.
Period.
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Also, George Harrison lost over "My Sweet Lord" which sounded too similar to "He's so Fine."
but in western music, we only have 12 tones to choose from, so some repetition is inevitable.
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There are flaws in my statements that don't cover high-end CAD applications. And I'm as aware of hot-key+mouse combos in Gimp as I am of key+mouse combos in MacOS... they're common.
They're also not enough. Think of the evil side of this, where every application has its own keys+mouse combos to remember.
You said that you're not sure a computer could handle as many as 4 inflections or more, especially with ambient noise.
We have more computing power than ever before- we have only to eliminate the bottlenecks and use this power to do something revolutionary instead of doing the same old same old in 10 seconds less.
I'm ready for a leap forward.
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It dies only because of the implementation-
Instead of saying "file menu, save" the user should have only had to say "save" or "save as"
The problem with those voice command systems is, they were grafted onto the existing GUI.
A true voice command system would have a different Human Interface Design guide.
The mouse knows one word, with modifiers.
The word is "click", and "right" "middle "double" "left" and "scroll" modify it.
The keyboard is fine and well, but I can speak faster than I can type, spell better when I speak, and don't suffer from wrist strain near as much.
A host is a host from coast to coast, but no one uses a host that's close
Jeff Raskin's point was NOT:
:}
it's UNIX, it's backward.
his point IS:
It's an operating system, the paradigm for which is backwards.
Computers, according to Raskin, should operate more like appliances. Reliably and simply.
Start typing at the keyboard, and it's a document.
start doodling at the tablet, and it's a graphics file. Make the computer as simple as a consumer television.
Linguists have talked about this for some time-
The computer interface consists of a mouse and keyboard.
The mouse knows one word with modifier states. That word is "click." it can be modified with "right-", "double-" "middle-" or even "scroll-wheel"
The keyboard is great, but slow, and the computer command line understands words, but usually requires two and three letter commands that need to be learnt, like a new language.
The concept of an OS (cli or gui) is backwards and outdated for most things. It's very powerful, very functional, and even pretty when skinned with jelly-beans.
But let's get forward thinking-- voice-controlled (and I mean, good voice controlled, not viavoice or dragon from two years ago) and gesture oriented.
command line was pioneering in 1968 or 9.
the mouse was incredible when Engelbart thought of it.
Click and Drag was cool at PARC and Apple.
Microsoft was innovative when they figured out how to market the masses to death, club OEMs into submission and buy up any product that was halfway decent.
All of these things are old news. Yes they're being improved upon, but the improvements are EVOLUTIONARY.
Raskin is interested in the REVOLUTIONARY.
So am I.
I'd like to ditch my keyboard and mouse, put on two gauntlets and a headset mic, and gesture and speak to my computer. Oh, and make the gauntlets and headset mic use bluetooth-- I like to walk around my office when I'm dictating.
This comment is copyright of ME. using this comment without my permission is violating my ownership rights.
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I can speak faster than I can type.
If I can have my speech recognized *accurately* then I can gain in productivity.
Real world proof are the articles of Charles W Moore at www.macopinion.com and www.applelinks.com
He creates all his articles using iListen for Macintosh.
If I can do the same with my linux boxen, then this is a dramatic leap forward for me.
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When I go to the computer store, will they ask the same question I hear at the grocery check-out line?
"Will that be paper or plastic, sir?"
(paper cellphones last week, silicon plastic this week... )
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Yes, there's many different office applications available.
The competition is what makes them improve. If there were only one office application, it's arguable that, yes, the open-source community would make improvements for improvements' sake.
But I doubt it. I fully believe that the only reason these projects come about is because they see the need to improve on the work of others, and to do it as a separate project.
Applix was among the first and best, and it is a shame the future is up in the air.
Corel's wordperfect wasn't all bad, either. I currently am posting from the browser within StarOffice, just because it happens to be open...
without the competition, I wouldn't have had the choice, and moving to Linux would have been a lot more difficult when I did it three years ago.
Hopefully the other projects will continue to mature to fill this void.
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todah l'cha l' comment shelcha.
Glad it was you who raised the issue of what the rest of us are to do while a certain other group is praying on school time.
When I was in High School years back, Christmas trees were in the school office, decorations on classroom doors, etc..
but then, this was the same school that had a Vice-Principal who counted my Yom Kippur absence as un-excused.
I believe his comment to the absence review board was, "if he's going to claim a religious holiday, at least let it be a real religion."
But I got him back. I dated his daughter.
As for Challenger, I was in the only class in the elementary school that didn't watch the launch on television. I remember riding home on the bus that day being upset that we hadn't seen the launch, and having the other kids ask me, "did you see it, did you see it, I can't believe it!" and not knowing what happened (they wouldn't tell me) until I got home and saw the television.
I sequestered myself in the basement among my Odyssey magazines and posters and watched the footage of the disaster repeatedly for the next 12 hours. I still know every frame from memory. I also have the local newspapers from that fateful day.
A host is a host from coast to coast, but no one uses a host that's close
When I was shopping for my first pda, I looked at the e-mate (newton variant) and ended up buying a palm pilot professional. As near as I can recollect, a brother of mine in DKE had a newton in 93, and really dug it. My first real experience with a newton for any prolonged time was the guided tour for the Star Wars exhibit at the Smithsonian two years ago. The whole guided tour was done on a newton, with star wars animation and sounds as well as the narrator telling about the different models and costumes from the movies. If I could get that tour prog in its entirety, I'd get on ebay right now and have me a newton. It'd be in fine company with the other PDA's I own: Palm Pilot Pro (1mb) Palm III with TRG upgrade to 8mb m100 with 8mb Handspring Visor Deluxe (w/backup springboard and phone module) Everex winCE device Philips WinCE device
A host is a host from coast to coast, but no one uses a host that's close
It's important to remember that when you throw out old code, you can be throwing out hours of productivity and learned knowledge in the from of incorporated bugfixes.
Was is *really* important to throw out the ftp code in netscape that understood all 60 types of servers to connect to? surely there was something worth saving.
Yes, spaghetti code is nasty, but if developers spent more time reading the code they have on hand, re-use would be more prevalent.
An opinion is simply that, and I'm entitled to mine.
If you feel baited to flame me for a perspective that differs from your own, well then, that's more about you than me.
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do you have a website showing the things you produced?
A host is a host from coast to coast, but no one uses a host that's close
Ah but when Darth Vader dies and reveals removes the mask so he can see his son with with his own eyes, Good and Evil aren't so clear-cut-
Was he Evil, and if so, how can Evil become Good?
Or are there grayer shades of Good and Evil that only become clear when Ewoks chirp and dance wildly and pass out that good Ewok festive beverage?
Does the movie also show that it's okay to rebel against your father, he'll forgive you in the end?
I still have my action figures, millenium falcon, at-st, rancor, jabba playset, hoth playset, dagobah playset, and an x-wing. but the x-wing is missing one of its wings.
We were poor back then and bought the x-wing used from the son of one of my dad's co-workers.
A host is a host from coast to coast, but no one uses a host that's close
Les Paul began recording in 1932. His era of biggest hits with Mary Ford, including the Les Paul Television Show, was in the 50's. So yes, you're right...
I guess I was responding to the notion that older music (even if it's as recent as the 20th century) has no value.
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At least in the case of Rocky and Bullwinkle, it's semi-legit. Jay Ward created the characters, after all.
Now, it's different when the copyrights start changing hands all over the place.
copyrights are to protect the content creators.. which is why it's cool for Jay Ward (or his family) to own Rocky and Bullwinkle.
Paul McCartney owns Buddy Holly's catalog, as well as John Phillip Sousa's catalog, but not the same as the following examples:
Michael Jackson owns Paul McCartney's (okay, the Beatles Northern Songs) catalog.
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70 year old music? /hot jazz club of france.
Easy.
Les Paul and his trio/ Les Paul and Mary Ford.
Django Reinhardt and Stephane Grapelli
Gershwin, Ira and George
Berlin, Irving
Robert Johnson
Big Bill Broonzy
Blind Lemon Jefferson
and others.
all over 70 years.
In my cd player at this moment is Modest Mussorgsky's Boris Gudonov.
Either you failed at music appreciation class or were one of the poor souls who didn't bother to take it. Your loss.
A host is a host from coast to coast, but no one uses a host that's close
You know, you're right, this thread is a shameful mess.
When I first contributed to it , I didn't mean for it to end with this outcome.
It seems to me that far too many shortsighted people accuse others of being nazis and or communists on slashdot, which only shows their ignorance culturally as well as historically.
read my addition to this thread earlier where I try and establish that I'm not a limited ignorant shortsighted American, or at least, not in this context. (ignorance is a hard thing to claim a complete lack of; my perl skills stink.)
Hopefully next time we post in the same thread it won't be on something as disgraceful as this.
A host is a host from coast to coast, but no one uses a host that's close
Um, clarification:
I went to spain in 92, italy and austria in 98, from 98-2000,
I went abroad to Israel for two years, returned to the states with the Israeli who became my wife. All my travels and experiences were very valuable, and taught me to value America, something I didn't give much thought to before living elsewhere.
A host is a host from coast to coast, but no one uses a host that's close
Um... maybe folks have forgotten the stir over immigration laws and B-1 visas we had on /. a while back, but thanks to immigration and being the melting pot, the land of opportunity,
Americans are either foreigners-naturalized, or descendants of naturalized foreigners. So having foreign brainpower (okay, you left of Robert Oppenheimer, my favorite quote is "We're all sons of bitches now.") to create the atomic bomb is not a rain on the parade...
America was/is superior because we attract the best foreigners to work amongst us.
A host is a host from coast to coast, but no one uses a host that's close
Really? I spoke without your first-hand knowledge, but was under the impression that osX and osX server in its newest incarnation would be sharing the same codebase, only one benefitting from server apps and server appropriate capabilities.
Server in its current incarnation (1.2?) is mach 2.5 with bsd4.4 and a primitive version of classic called bluebox, no?
OsX for the desktop is mach 3.0 with Bsd4.4 and a fanciful set of gui, new apis, and display pdf instead of display postscript.
certainly apple would bring their server os up to the same kernel that their desktop os is using. Have you posted anything about the new version of Server? can you say anything about it and how you know it's not from the same codebase as darwin?
very curious.
A host is a host from coast to coast, but no one uses a host that's close
the Mac OsX server product has been quietly updated to encompass just these kinds of intranet / extranet LAN/WAN serving.
it'll be the same as the desktop product, except with the apps for more server oriented things included in the box.
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WHY DO I RESPOND TO THE TROLLS!
The DCMA is an abomination. We have the right to play content we purchase on any machine we choose. If we have to do so creatively, so be it. It's certainly our own business if we want to create such a solution, and because the solution contains no proprietary code, it's ours to free as we wish.
As for mp3s, you might have a point- it's illegal to possess an mp3 you don't own, and it's illegal to encode mp3s without a licensed encoder. (makes me wonder, Steve gives iTunes away for free! How?)
Hence, we came up with Ogg Vorbis, and it's completely legal to encode those as much as we like. It's still illegal to have oggs of songs we didn't pay royalties for, but so is making mix tapes to give to girlfriends, which I'm sure you've done...
oh wait, you never had a girlfriend.
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underneath the painted titanium (bare titanium stains when exposed to moisture) is a reinforcing layer of carbon fiber to lend it strength.
/.
Don't get me wrong, I'm saving up to afford a TiBook, but you should know the ins and outs of the book before you represent speculation as fact. oh wait, I'm sorry.... this is
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