Just because a potter could transform themselves into a buggy whip maker and buggy whip makers found work in an auto factory, it doesn't mean the progression is going to continue forever.
And it doesn't mean that said progression is bound to stop (either now, or in the future, or ever.)
People and countries need to learn and learn and learn, and adapt and adapt and adapt.
Will it work forever? Who the fucks know. But I tell you this. Not doing that, not adapting, not learning, that will fuck you anyone over RIGHT NOW. Not a question of if, not even a question of when.
I got a $50,000 a year job in IT in Silicon Valley and no one asked me for a high school diploma.
$50k in the valley is nothing. That's the equivalent of any clerical job anywhere else. The good thing is that the salary ceilings in IT are way higher than in other professions.
Most end up moving there anyway. Look at how many companies have huge presence in Georgia, Florida and Texas...not exactly states known for their spending on education.
Back in the 90s, when companies needed a much bigger semi-skilled white collar labor force, they'd move their back-office functions to places like Atlanta or Dallas. Taxes are cheap, and land/houses are cheap if you're willing to drive a lot. And the executives are happy wherever they end up. They can build whatever housing they want, and certainly don't use the public school system to educate their kids. I was asked to move to Florida for a relocation once, and even the real estate agent trying to sell me a house said I'd have to put my kids in private school if I wanted a New York-equivalent education. Later on, people I kept in touch with who did make the move confirmed this was true. It's the trade off for cheap houses and low taxes -- long car commutes and expensive private school tuition.
Georgia, Texas and Florida are very diverse states where you can't compare their metropolitan areas with their towns in the middle of nowhere. They are countries in their own right.
I suggest you read "The New Geography of Jobs" by Enrico Moretti. It will disabuse you and anyone else of the notion that companies that rely on knowledge workers can, should and/or will relocate from where they are. The notions is pretty freaking bollocks.
Tim Cook: Coding Languages Were 'Too Geeky' For Students Until We Invented Swift
Hahahaha, no. What an absurd claim (considering the very simple syntax behind languages such as BASIC, LOGO, FoxPro, etc.)
Not to mention that a student (a good student with the right aptitude) that goes into programming will already be inclined towards the esoteric details of programming and programming languages.
I mean, for f* sake, students learned using assembly and they came out quite capable. Nowadays, many (not all) colleges are just Java/.NET shops producing code monkeys that cannot code without a damned wizard and an IDE.
If only it was like that. In reality many of those people are desperate, they are extremely poor and Foxconn is one of the few reliable sources of income available. Their family probably still grows it own food just to survive. Things like health insurance are unheard of.
This creates immense pressure on those workers. If they quit then it cuts off a vital source of income for their families.
No, it is not. Talk to Chinese people. Or I would take my own experience growing up in a very poor country. The people going to work at Foxconn aren't escaping survival conditions. They are escaping lack of opportunities. Having grown up seeing those two, I can tell you they are not the same.
The company owns the housing and the food. They set the prices to make sure that people can't make enough to do anything except survive. If it isn't slave labor by name it is in practice.
People can quit (and many times they do, they go "fuck it, I'm going back home"). So, no, it's not slavery.
"Great Britain and Cuba aren't exactly the same thing for example."
Yeah. One has first-class healthcare... and the other is the U.K.
First-class healthcare where hospitals continuously run out of anesthesia and aspirins. You really have no fucking clue how things are like over there.
There's quite a lot of literature available regarding the Hawaiian Sovereignty movement. While a (very vocal) minority, a lot of locals support the sentiment while acknowledging that restoration of the monarchy isn't really in their best interests.
So there is not a substantial majority support for giving up statehood. Got it.
Yep, a lie of omission. The past referendum was indeed full of poison pills. The political parties in PR are all fucked up (not unlike us in the mainland) which is why it's giving a "eat a shit sandwich or a turd taco" option attached to the question of statehood. It poisons the entire conversation, and gives ammo to the mainland idiots who want to handwave that shit away and claim Puerto Ricans only care about bailout money (because it is fucking axiomatic that brown people only care about fucking welfare.)
I bet the Liberals in every major Southern urban area get tired of their right wing state governments too.
Please note that unlike yourself, I have chosen to not confabulate a political point of view I often disagree with, with an extremeist ideology.
Not to mention that it is those pesky Librul enclaves that are actually producing most of the wealth in that state (something mirrored in pretty much every state with large metropolitan areas.)
Who cares about "illegal"? This is Apple. They claim to be good global citizens. Meanwhile they are using slave labor to build their products and actively trying to avoid paying taxes. So they need to drop the whole SJW, good company act. Hypocrites.
Slave labor? People aren't forced to work at FoxConn. Surely work conditions suck, but that doesn't mean people are held by chains without pay. They get paid, substantially more than what they would make back at the village, and many actually see it as a opportunity to climb up (which they do) as opposed to the many people we have here that do nothing to learn new skills and keep dreaming about having those level-pulling 9-5 jobs that are forever gone.
These workers are actually not the poorest from their village. Educationally they are the cream top from Rural China, and go there to climb up, not to escape rampant poverty.
I suggest you read "Factory Girls: From Village to City in a Changing China" by Leslie T. Chang. Obviously we want those workers to have better conditions (which they are getting, incrementally). And there is no doubt there is injustice in the system (in particular sexism.)
But to call the slave workers is just idiotic, and it simply demeans the very workers that chose to try their luck in the factory lines.
My city has an urban population of about 3 million. The vast majority of us live in apartments and condominiums. The remaining single family homes are converted to higher density housing when the owners die off. These condos and apts are traditionally required to provide one or 1.5 parking spaces per unit; in most cases that's almost entirely outdoor offstreet uncovered parking. Residents with more than one car must park in the street (if they can find a space).
Urban planners say that density must increase to preserve open space elsewhere. Bicycle paths are taking the place of parking spaces and mass transit is encouraged. Fewer parking spaces are required for new buildings under construction.
So the question is: where will these 3 million people charge their EVs?
In fact an electric car is not an option in urban areas. Even if your property manager could provide a charging unit, how would it be metered and billed to you? Who would maintain it in a mostly public space where vandals and theft could be a problem?
Many urbanites will choose Uber or Lyft, but Ford's electric auto sales will not reach the inner city. Privately owned EVs are only practical in suburban & rural single-family home areas.
Privately owned vehicles will simply diminish. Just look at Tokyo. Barely anyone needs a car, and most households that own a car simply have one (and they barely use it.)
For all the cultural failings one find in Japan (karoshi comes to mind), Tokyo shows how highly populated areas are supposed to work with minimum privately owned vehicles.
Ergo, for metropolitan areas that follow that model, privately owned EVs aren't an issue (with people relying on EV-based public transportation and taxi services.)
It is us morons on this side of the world with our continuous infatuation with single-purpose zoning (with all the commuting it generates)that are putting ourselves into a pickle. The death of retail (and malls losing their anchors) shall start pushing us into multipurpose zoning which itself provides ample reason to invest in public transportation and divest from owning a car.
I have two cars, because I have to. I surely miss Tokyo's public transportation system and multi-use districs.
It's amateur hour stuff like this that keeps fucking up the market. Coinbase and their sketchy release of BCH trading just as Bitcoin had peaked, tanked the market a month ago. Now I fully expect this news to do the same once it becomes widespread.
If you're going to be running a major currency exchange, why the hell are you taking down and deploying into production systems?
With the world of VMs these days, duplicate your entire fucking production environment over to new VMs. Leave the original environment up and running to keep serving customers. Deploy into the new duplicated VM environment. If all passes sanity testing after deployment, cut the traffic over from the old production environment to the new production environment. With VMs, all they should need is a shitload of RAM and disk space. CPU usage will be low on the new environment that deployment is being done on, and once customers cut over that usage will just drop on the old VMs and pickup on the new VMs.
If the whole thing goes tits up, you still have your old prod environment you can cut all the traffic back over to. if it all goes well, after some amount of time you can decommission the whole old VM environment.
Aside from being able to safely deploy, having a duplicated prod environment, hopefully in a separate datacenter gives you redundancy during the time between deployments
Exaaaaactly. That's how you do it. Unfortunately, it is all the obvious that many of these exchanges are being run by amateur recent grads, code monkeys and keyboard cowboys that program for the happy case only.
Then shit hits the fan, and they cannot even put a semi-decent splash downtime page.
Would, if it went out, actually be something newsworthy.
But as it were, Coinbase is shit, and you really shouldn't be using it, unless you like to get assraped with fees.
Which I why I use GDAX (same company as CoinBase). I use CoinBase only for the login and to fund directly from my bank account. Then I log into GDAX, transfer the funds (for free) from CoinBase and do my trade there.
I've been waiting for Kraken to come up just so that I can get my founds out of there pronto. I will have to trade my Monero into Bitcoin and then move it to GDAX if Kraken doesn't let me transfer to a Monero paper wallet (at this point, I expect anything.)
This site is full of sysadmins. Technical glitches would either be dead hardware (during an upgrade? plug the old stuff back in!) but they could have already replaced hardware. Or it could be software, which they could have restored from backup.
Multiple days of downtime tells us definitively that the problem isn't some sort of routine "technical glitch" but something more serious, like, "oh, hey guys, all the cookies are gone. I checked the jar and it is just crumbs."
And actual technical glitch that you were trying to solve before relaunch would get abandoned after some number of hours (days) without a successful fix. You don't have to leave the site down for a "technical glitch," you leave it down because the sky fell on your head and there is no reason to turn the server back on. Like, if all the money is gone and you turn the server on, people try to get their money, and can't, and want to know why.
Exactly.
And I repeat, the fact they cannot even put a decent splash page (which is among the first things one must implement), that is telling.
While the facts seem to be in order, this is written as if it was to fuel FUD. Kraken planned to change/upgrade their trading platform for a long time; now that they do, they ran into some technical glitch that they are trying to solve before relaunch.
Technical glitch? They cannot even put a decent splash page with the company log on it when you hit the site. That shit was ok back in 95-96. But who does that in 2018? It does not instill much confidence.
Once a currency becomes unusable as a payment method, it becomes a useless currency, and that is left is pure speculation... when people realize that, its market value is going to drop to zero.
Bitcoin is transforming itself more into a store of value rather than a liquid currency for conducting trade. It's pretty much acting up like a commodity.
Seriously? Linux used to be run back in the day in 386 computers. I did that on a laptop (not the best experience, except for running a single app, like a database or web server.)
My main mode of running it back in the day was on a 486SX with 2M of RAM (later 4M, what's when shit was flying fast man!)
I ran X, postgress and a web server (to the exclusion of everything else.) Later I turned it into a dev system (gcc/gnat) complete with a whole bunch of other goodies.
Pretty primitive by today's standards, but useful and secure nonetheless.
I wouldn't mind having a bunch of spare 486SX's or first gen Pentiums just to slap Linux (or BSD) on them and have them run mundane jobs, like tracking stocks or something.
The Orange one might have brought tech jobs back to the USA and they might be very expensive, but I know the tech companies can afford these people (ie us) as they make so much money they don't know what to do with it besides stuff it into some island bank account.
You talk just like the type of person who has no idea what the fuck he's talking about. The bulk of jobs being bled in India are the type of IT jobs that led themselves to automation (or when a company is downsizing and reducing opex). No new jobs, you dumb rube.
Salaries seems to be a reasonable destination for the spare cash, and the tech workers will then spend it.
LOL. This is wishful, ignorant thinking. That money goes back to shareholders. Rarely that gets re-invested into operations.
that's far better for the economy than a race to the bottom for the peasantry while our new aristocrats get so rich they couldn't spend it all even if they really really tried (and frankly, looking at Theranos and Uber's continued funding, they're really trying)
Wait, you think that this bleed out in India is somehow going to stop what you just described? I have a bridge to sell you (or a red hat, whatever tickles your fancy.)
Slashdot Mirror
Just because a potter could transform themselves into a buggy whip maker and buggy whip makers found work in an auto factory, it doesn't mean the progression is going to continue forever.
And it doesn't mean that said progression is bound to stop (either now, or in the future, or ever.)
People and countries need to learn and learn and learn, and adapt and adapt and adapt.
Will it work forever? Who the fucks know. But I tell you this. Not doing that, not adapting, not learning, that will fuck you anyone over RIGHT NOW. Not a question of if, not even a question of when.
Being unadaptable will screw you.
Civil war 1861-1865. The north wanted cheap labor for their factories. Many people suffering now that the factories have shut down.
And the South wanted free labor for their cotton farms. Many people suffered back then... without factories to exist and then close.
I got a $50,000 a year job in IT in Silicon Valley and no one asked me for a high school diploma.
$50k in the valley is nothing. That's the equivalent of any clerical job anywhere else. The good thing is that the salary ceilings in IT are way higher than in other professions.
Most end up moving there anyway. Look at how many companies have huge presence in Georgia, Florida and Texas...not exactly states known for their spending on education.
Back in the 90s, when companies needed a much bigger semi-skilled white collar labor force, they'd move their back-office functions to places like Atlanta or Dallas. Taxes are cheap, and land/houses are cheap if you're willing to drive a lot. And the executives are happy wherever they end up. They can build whatever housing they want, and certainly don't use the public school system to educate their kids. I was asked to move to Florida for a relocation once, and even the real estate agent trying to sell me a house said I'd have to put my kids in private school if I wanted a New York-equivalent education. Later on, people I kept in touch with who did make the move confirmed this was true. It's the trade off for cheap houses and low taxes -- long car commutes and expensive private school tuition.
Georgia, Texas and Florida are very diverse states where you can't compare their metropolitan areas with their towns in the middle of nowhere. They are countries in their own right.
I suggest you read "The New Geography of Jobs" by Enrico Moretti. It will disabuse you and anyone else of the notion that companies that rely on knowledge workers can, should and/or will relocate from where they are. The notions is pretty freaking bollocks.
How about you go take a look instead of trusting or mindlessly debating some other asshole on the internet?
The irony of you telling me not to debate on the internet does not escape me.
Tim Cook: Coding Languages Were 'Too Geeky' For Students Until We Invented Swift
Hahahaha, no. What an absurd claim (considering the very simple syntax behind languages such as BASIC, LOGO, FoxPro, etc.)
Not to mention that a student (a good student with the right aptitude) that goes into programming will already be inclined towards the esoteric details of programming and programming languages.
I mean, for f* sake, students learned using assembly and they came out quite capable. Nowadays, many (not all) colleges are just Java/.NET shops producing code monkeys that cannot code without a damned wizard and an IDE.
That's no progress.
Bullshit, they want to be their own nation.
Who is "they", and by what margin wrt to the whole population?
If only it was like that. In reality many of those people are desperate, they are extremely poor and Foxconn is one of the few reliable sources of income available. Their family probably still grows it own food just to survive. Things like health insurance are unheard of.
This creates immense pressure on those workers. If they quit then it cuts off a vital source of income for their families.
No, it is not. Talk to Chinese people. Or I would take my own experience growing up in a very poor country. The people going to work at Foxconn aren't escaping survival conditions. They are escaping lack of opportunities. Having grown up seeing those two, I can tell you they are not the same.
Believe me. Or not. It's all the same.
The company owns the housing and the food. They set the prices to make sure that people can't make enough to do anything except survive. If it isn't slave labor by name it is in practice.
People can quit (and many times they do, they go "fuck it, I'm going back home"). So, no, it's not slavery.
"Great Britain and Cuba aren't exactly the same thing for example." Yeah. One has first-class healthcare... and the other is the U.K.
First-class healthcare where hospitals continuously run out of anesthesia and aspirins. You really have no fucking clue how things are like over there.
There's quite a lot of literature available regarding the Hawaiian Sovereignty movement. While a (very vocal) minority, a lot of locals support the sentiment while acknowledging that restoration of the monarchy isn't really in their best interests.
So there is not a substantial majority support for giving up statehood. Got it.
Go to Hawaii, talk to them. They hate being part of the US.
Bullshit, they hate being subject to the Jones Act (which not only fucks commerce to Hawaii but also to Alaska, PR and Guam.)
A lie by omission perhaps?
Yep, a lie of omission. The past referendum was indeed full of poison pills. The political parties in PR are all fucked up (not unlike us in the mainland) which is why it's giving a "eat a shit sandwich or a turd taco" option attached to the question of statehood. It poisons the entire conversation, and gives ammo to the mainland idiots who want to handwave that shit away and claim Puerto Ricans only care about bailout money (because it is fucking axiomatic that brown people only care about fucking welfare.)
I bet the Liberals in every major Southern urban area get tired of their right wing state governments too.
Please note that unlike yourself, I have chosen to not confabulate a political point of view I often disagree with, with an extremeist ideology.
Not to mention that it is those pesky Librul enclaves that are actually producing most of the wealth in that state (something mirrored in pretty much every state with large metropolitan areas.)
Who cares about "illegal"? This is Apple. They claim to be good global citizens. Meanwhile they are using slave labor to build their products and actively trying to avoid paying taxes. So they need to drop the whole SJW, good company act. Hypocrites.
Slave labor? People aren't forced to work at FoxConn. Surely work conditions suck, but that doesn't mean people are held by chains without pay. They get paid, substantially more than what they would make back at the village, and many actually see it as a opportunity to climb up (which they do) as opposed to the many people we have here that do nothing to learn new skills and keep dreaming about having those level-pulling 9-5 jobs that are forever gone.
These workers are actually not the poorest from their village. Educationally they are the cream top from Rural China, and go there to climb up, not to escape rampant poverty.
I suggest you read "Factory Girls: From Village to City in a Changing China" by Leslie T. Chang. Obviously we want those workers to have better conditions (which they are getting, incrementally). And there is no doubt there is injustice in the system (in particular sexism.)
But to call the slave workers is just idiotic, and it simply demeans the very workers that chose to try their luck in the factory lines.
My city has an urban population of about 3 million. The vast majority of us live in apartments and condominiums. The remaining single family homes are converted to higher density housing when the owners die off. These condos and apts are traditionally required to provide one or 1.5 parking spaces per unit; in most cases that's almost entirely outdoor offstreet uncovered parking. Residents with more than one car must park in the street (if they can find a space).
Urban planners say that density must increase to preserve open space elsewhere. Bicycle paths are taking the place of parking spaces and mass transit is encouraged. Fewer parking spaces are required for new buildings under construction.
So the question is: where will these 3 million people charge their EVs?
In fact an electric car is not an option in urban areas. Even if your property manager could provide a charging unit, how would it be metered and billed to you? Who would maintain it in a mostly public space where vandals and theft could be a problem?
Many urbanites will choose Uber or Lyft, but Ford's electric auto sales will not reach the inner city. Privately owned EVs are only practical in suburban & rural single-family home areas.
Privately owned vehicles will simply diminish. Just look at Tokyo. Barely anyone needs a car, and most households that own a car simply have one (and they barely use it.)
For all the cultural failings one find in Japan (karoshi comes to mind), Tokyo shows how highly populated areas are supposed to work with minimum privately owned vehicles.
Ergo, for metropolitan areas that follow that model, privately owned EVs aren't an issue (with people relying on EV-based public transportation and taxi services.)
It is us morons on this side of the world with our continuous infatuation with single-purpose zoning (with all the commuting it generates)that are putting ourselves into a pickle. The death of retail (and malls losing their anchors) shall start pushing us into multipurpose zoning which itself provides ample reason to invest in public transportation and divest from owning a car.
I have two cars, because I have to. I surely miss Tokyo's public transportation system and multi-use districs.
Yea, solar on everybody's house too! But solar also has it's own issues. Where does the excess power go?.
Uh, batteries?
It's amateur hour stuff like this that keeps fucking up the market. Coinbase and their sketchy release of BCH trading just as Bitcoin had peaked, tanked the market a month ago. Now I fully expect this news to do the same once it becomes widespread.
If you're going to be running a major currency exchange, why the hell are you taking down and deploying into production systems?
With the world of VMs these days, duplicate your entire fucking production environment over to new VMs. Leave the original environment up and running to keep serving customers. Deploy into the new duplicated VM environment. If all passes sanity testing after deployment, cut the traffic over from the old production environment to the new production environment. With VMs, all they should need is a shitload of RAM and disk space. CPU usage will be low on the new environment that deployment is being done on, and once customers cut over that usage will just drop on the old VMs and pickup on the new VMs.
If the whole thing goes tits up, you still have your old prod environment you can cut all the traffic back over to. if it all goes well, after some amount of time you can decommission the whole old VM environment.
Aside from being able to safely deploy, having a duplicated prod environment, hopefully in a separate datacenter gives you redundancy during the time between deployments
Exaaaaactly. That's how you do it. Unfortunately, it is all the obvious that many of these exchanges are being run by amateur recent grads, code monkeys and keyboard cowboys that program for the happy case only.
Then shit hits the fan, and they cannot even put a semi-decent splash downtime page.
Coinbase
Would, if it went out, actually be something newsworthy.
But as it were, Coinbase is shit, and you really shouldn't be using it, unless you like to get assraped with fees.
Which I why I use GDAX (same company as CoinBase). I use CoinBase only for the login and to fund directly from my bank account. Then I log into GDAX, transfer the funds (for free) from CoinBase and do my trade there.
I've been waiting for Kraken to come up just so that I can get my founds out of there pronto. I will have to trade my Monero into Bitcoin and then move it to GDAX if Kraken doesn't let me transfer to a Monero paper wallet (at this point, I expect anything.)
This site is full of sysadmins. Technical glitches would either be dead hardware (during an upgrade? plug the old stuff back in!) but they could have already replaced hardware. Or it could be software, which they could have restored from backup.
Multiple days of downtime tells us definitively that the problem isn't some sort of routine "technical glitch" but something more serious, like, "oh, hey guys, all the cookies are gone. I checked the jar and it is just crumbs."
And actual technical glitch that you were trying to solve before relaunch would get abandoned after some number of hours (days) without a successful fix. You don't have to leave the site down for a "technical glitch," you leave it down because the sky fell on your head and there is no reason to turn the server back on. Like, if all the money is gone and you turn the server on, people try to get their money, and can't, and want to know why.
Exactly.
And I repeat, the fact they cannot even put a decent splash page (which is among the first things one must implement), that is telling.
While the facts seem to be in order, this is written as if it was to fuel FUD. Kraken planned to change/upgrade their trading platform for a long time; now that they do, they ran into some technical glitch that they are trying to solve before relaunch.
The relevant link is status.kraken.com
Technical glitch? They cannot even put a decent splash page with the company log on it when you hit the site. That shit was ok back in 95-96. But who does that in 2018? It does not instill much confidence.
Once a currency becomes unusable as a payment method, it becomes a useless currency, and that is left is pure speculation... when people realize that, its market value is going to drop to zero.
Bitcoin is transforming itself more into a store of value rather than a liquid currency for conducting trade. It's pretty much acting up like a commodity.
Can You Install Linux On a 1993 PC
Seriously? Linux used to be run back in the day in 386 computers. I did that on a laptop (not the best experience, except for running a single app, like a database or web server.)
My main mode of running it back in the day was on a 486SX with 2M of RAM (later 4M, what's when shit was flying fast man!)
I ran X, postgress and a web server (to the exclusion of everything else.) Later I turned it into a dev system (gcc/gnat) complete with a whole bunch of other goodies.
Pretty primitive by today's standards, but useful and secure nonetheless.
I wouldn't mind having a bunch of spare 486SX's or first gen Pentiums just to slap Linux (or BSD) on them and have them run mundane jobs, like tracking stocks or something.
computers.
No bounds checking, no type checking. In 2018. Get serious.
My guess is C programs are the underlying reason for a good majority of ways of hacking into systems.
I mean a buffer exploit? Seriously? In 2018? Why in the hell would that be remotely acceptable?
^^^ Another internet person that doesn't know what the fuck he/she's talking about.
News at 11.
The Orange one might have brought tech jobs back to the USA and they might be very expensive, but I know the tech companies can afford these people (ie us) as they make so much money they don't know what to do with it besides stuff it into some island bank account.
You talk just like the type of person who has no idea what the fuck he's talking about. The bulk of jobs being bled in India are the type of IT jobs that led themselves to automation (or when a company is downsizing and reducing opex). No new jobs, you dumb rube.
Salaries seems to be a reasonable destination for the spare cash, and the tech workers will then spend it.
LOL. This is wishful, ignorant thinking. That money goes back to shareholders. Rarely that gets re-invested into operations.
that's far better for the economy than a race to the bottom for the peasantry while our new aristocrats get so rich they couldn't spend it all even if they really really tried (and frankly, looking at Theranos and Uber's continued funding, they're really trying)
Wait, you think that this bleed out in India is somehow going to stop what you just described? I have a bridge to sell you (or a red hat, whatever tickles your fancy.)