He's not the real owner of that ID. Notice the sudden change in the pattern of posting? Which was sporadic with months between posts, and then suddenly he gets into a daily argument over a well known internet meme?
The real owner of that ID has long been digested by dogs or fish. That's why you should not live alone, away from the civilization. Someone will notice that, will come to your door, kill you, and take your slashdot ID.
I'm not talking about humans. Particularly stock humans. As a stock human I could go for days just looking at the second hand on a watch making rounds.
I'm talking about aliens who have achieved immortality through... say... genetics, BUT inadvertently ticked off the check box for "curiosity" in the process. Or better yet, like you say, ticked on the check box for boredom.
Not being bored because immortality is boring, but bored cause now they can't NOT BE bored.
The Borg would probably be bored out of their minds. Plugged into all knowledge of all assimilated civilizations, processing at the maximum speed available, with new information trickling in slowly... No wonder only one in the collective is NOT a mindless drone, and she is pissed off and bitchy all the time.
OR... They are NEVER BORED. Think EVERYTHING being THE MOST EXCITING THING EVAR! Somewhere out there, there's a planet covered in immortals, covered in millennial layers of dust of the ruins of their civilization - and they are "OMG!!! SOOOOOO EXCIIIITEEEEED!!!" about it all. Like The Great Slow Kings, only very pleased about everything.
And if you are arguing that you've never heard of that Futurama reference before... You are either lying, have been in a coma for the last couple of decades (it's a show from the '90s, bro), are 3 years old, have been in a prison (solitary) for the last couple of decades or in some other way removed from the society in general and geek/nerd crowd in particular.
I'm leaning towards being a convicted murderer who just got out of prison and killed the real cribera, stealing his laptop and now posting on slashdot under his name. It would also explain the trolling. You do that cause you're a sociopath.
its not hedging their bets, its the more scientific rationale to call yourself agnostic because its impossible to disprove something doesn;t exist
Except it's not. A real agnostic would give same credence to existence of Superman or fairies as he/she would to existence of god. Because, "Hey... maybe... I don't know."
It's not scientific or rational to assume "Just because I repeatedly checked the box and found it empty, doesn't mean a cupcake won't suddenly appear inside when I die and take me to cupcake land". It's either crazy, or intellectually and morally dishonest.
Absence of evidence is not just "NOT evidence of absence". It's primarily ABSENCE OF EVIDENCE. Again and again. Repeatedly. Constantly. It adds up. Or down. To "NO".
And based on such "gathered" evidence, scientific and rational thinking is NOT to assume "maybe I don't see it, therefore it might be there". Scientific and rational is to throw away the premise of anything being there. One wouldn't keep drawing one's own blood and testing it for HIV just because all the tests so far showed NO EVIDENCE of presence of HIV in one's blood. And that's looking for something that we actually know exists.
There's a reason Pascal's WAGER is not used as valid reasoning for any other "Yes or No" choice.
How come "Maybe immortality cancels out curiosity." is related to " Imagine your own damn scifi alien race. With or without hookers and blackjack."?
Because SCIFI. You know... The main topic. You know, those completely imaginary stories, which people imagine around premises like "Maybe A with maybe B equals maybe C... Hmmm... How would that go?"
The second comment is me telling you to go and IMAGINE a plausible story of your own, around that concept or some other. And I told it as a JOKE, which includes a reference to a comical SCIFI show.
Funny thing is, I added the Futurama reference to MAKE SURE no one mistook my reply for something other than jovial. Clearly, that went well.
and both are modded up?
Easy. Someone else with mod points understood what I said and got the reference.
That I just threw out a premise out there for others to play with? I doubt you had that in mind with "about you".
It's a premise for a 1950-ish sort of scifi. You could even back it up with some philosophy about civilizations and how they calm down and anchor intelligent species and even some science about how lower testosterone levels kill off the drive to do anything. You know... to make the box you're putting it in seem more solid.
Except it's still thinking inside a box. The main question is "Where are the ETs?" NOT "Have they eliminated their curiosity and thus eliminated themselves?" Fine! Maybe they do eliminate themselves that way, maybe they don't. But where are all the OTHER ETs? Huge Universe, remember? Not a small "maybe this thing explains it" box.
One of the reasons I dislike the Planet of the Apes remakes (though I don't like the originals either) is that they are completely missing that point. Apes didn't "rise" defeating humans in some battle or through some immunity to a disease - THEY REPLACED THEM as the dominant, intelligent species after humans killed and culled themselves off. The other ETs.
Well, I need Google to tell me what exactly means being a "Scorpio". Can't keep everything upstairs.
So science is smart? I don't need some 'religion' or 'non religion' to figure that I'm smart.
So what does that tell you about people who do need to be reassured about their "smartness", by grabbing onto correlations that will make them "appear 5-10% more smart"?
Hm, perhaps we are just: average?
Not every sample is representative of the whole population.
I can produce evidence of that. Particularly since the opening of a mosque in my neighborhood. And since they've figured out how not to blow out the speakers every other day.
Luckily, rubber foam administered into one's ears beats praying 10 times out of 10.
I know no atheist who is seeking a replacement 'believe', we are simply not wired to "beleive" in something or have "faith".
Oh, there are plenty of those. Just look up any group of self declared atheists and it will be chock-full of them. Trouble is, they are not really atheists... and you'll often hear them declaring themselves "agnostic". I.e. Hedging their bets.
They also tend to be angry at one religion in particular, or tend to be more tolerant or leaning towards eastern religions like Buddhism and will still respect the local religious holidays and superstitions. Can you tell I'm a Scorpio? Google tells me that' why I am "dead serious in my mission to learn about others, to zero in on the essential questions, gleaning the secrets that lie within".
And then there are those who've "figured out" that "Science is smart. Atheists like science. So, being atheist means being smart." and are jumping on the chance for that ego boost by correlation. Very similar to how being a nerd has of recently become socially acceptable and even cool, so much so that now nearly everyone is a nerd. Particularly the jocks. They are now "sport nerds".
It confuses human hunger for understanding as need for an easy and simple answer. So, it supposes a hole which needs to be plugged up by something. Ignoring the possibility that the hole is there for ingesting, digesting, absorbing and rejecting information - and not to be plugged up.
Human body is full of holes that need to stay open for us to function normally. Plug em up... and we die. Same goes with our minds. Starve them of new information and they wither and suffocate. Plug them up with dogma and they drown in their own excrement.
On another note, the "argument" ignores even the possibility of no religion to begin with, and thus nothing to reject. Thus, according to that logic, a born atheist would be an impossibility. Or a very wile man, whose life has no "meaning and direction" and with a "big empty spot where heart used to be". What was that called again... Oh right... Bullshit.
Author is a philosopher (i.e. bullshit artist), "a contributor to the NPR blog 13.7: Cosmos and Culture" and currently working on "a book about art and human nature".
Ergo, space+art+culture = Star Trek. And as he is reaching for the lowest common denominator to hang his foregone conclusion on (and then wail on it until that straw flies out of that argument) - so Kirk as an imaginary opposite to an imaginary "Spockian" atheist. Because that's what's recognizable to most people through cultural osmosis.
Who ever heard of Sybok as an opposite to Spock, right? Oh... wait... That's the story where Kirk is the logical atheist and a Vulcan is a religious fanatic... oh...
Oh! So it shouldn't be a reduced version of the biblical 10 + 1 new age eco one?
Well shit... are you now telling us that not only are you an idiot who does not know what a law IS (and that's not a philosophical issue - there's no room for "what it SHOULD be" in it) - you are also full of shit and won't abide to your own idea of "3 laws only"?
Oh... wait... You're actually retarded... oh... You probably think law is some letters on paper made up to annoy you personally and steal your freedomz. That's sad.
Everything else you have to be able to TRADE or it is worthless or illegal to trade or posses. And while there is a long and fruitful career to be had in trading illegal shit, they tend to end abruptly and violently.
The reason you don't see more available from the likes of HP, Dell, Acer, and others is because it creates a support nightmare.
They don't see them cause most people on slashdot are from a wealthy western economy.
All those notebook/laptop makers have models made for and sold exclusively to customers in Eastern Europe. And said models tend not to be found on their main site, but on the sites of their licensed distributors in Eastern European countries. That's who gets the support calls. Which are usually settled with a "bring it around and we'll have a look at it".
Those models also tend to be labeled as "no OS" or "Linux OS"... but if the local distributor is also an OEM partner, they may put an OEM Windows installation on those machines if the customer wants it. Usually for free.
Or maybe not. Maybe it's illegal and they would NEVER think of doing that just to sell a laptop and accessories and future support and...
RWE AG said Aug. 12 it will halt an extra 1,005 megawatts of coal and lignite capacity by the first quarter of 2017, taking the total planned capacity cuts to 8,940 megawatts. Old lignite plants are candidates for closing, according to New York-based Pira, whose clients include oil companies, utilities and governments. A thousand megawatts is enough to power 2 million European homes.
They are shutting down the old coal plants, replacing them with new, more efficient and cleaner ones... and now they have to shut down and reduce production of those too. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/...
Wind and solarâ(TM)s share of installed German power capacity will rise to 42 percent by next year from 30 percent in 2010, according to European Union data compiled by Citigroup Inc. The share of hard coal and lignite plant capacity will drop to 28 percent from 32 percent, the data show.
German utilities plan to start new hard-coal plants with 5,606 megawatts of capacity this year and next, data from Bonn-based national grid regulator Bundesnetzagentur show. That compares with a target of at least 10,000 megawatts from new solar and wind installations in 2014 and 2015 under Germanyâ(TM)s renewable energy act, which takes effect Aug. 1. Solar output reached a record 24,244 megawatts on June 6, according to EEX.
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Now all they need are robotic gazelles.
That sounds like something a gazelle might say.
He's not the real owner of that ID.
Notice the sudden change in the pattern of posting?
Which was sporadic with months between posts, and then suddenly he gets into a daily argument over a well known internet meme?
The real owner of that ID has long been digested by dogs or fish.
That's why you should not live alone, away from the civilization.
Someone will notice that, will come to your door, kill you, and take your slashdot ID.
Zelazny usually is. :)
I'm not talking about humans.
Particularly stock humans. As a stock human I could go for days just looking at the second hand on a watch making rounds.
I'm talking about aliens who have achieved immortality through... say... genetics, BUT inadvertently ticked off the check box for "curiosity" in the process.
Or better yet, like you say, ticked on the check box for boredom.
Not being bored because immortality is boring, but bored cause now they can't NOT BE bored.
The Borg would probably be bored out of their minds.
Plugged into all knowledge of all assimilated civilizations, processing at the maximum speed available, with new information trickling in slowly...
No wonder only one in the collective is NOT a mindless drone, and she is pissed off and bitchy all the time.
OR... They are NEVER BORED.
Think EVERYTHING being THE MOST EXCITING THING EVAR!
Somewhere out there, there's a planet covered in immortals, covered in millennial layers of dust of the ruins of their civilization - and they are "OMG!!! SOOOOOO EXCIIIITEEEEED!!!" about it all.
Like The Great Slow Kings, only very pleased about everything.
Not everyone lives under a rock either.
And if you are arguing that you've never heard of that Futurama reference before...
You are either lying, have been in a coma for the last couple of decades (it's a show from the '90s, bro), are 3 years old, have been in a prison (solitary) for the last couple of decades or in some other way removed from the society in general and geek/nerd crowd in particular.
I'm leaning towards being a convicted murderer who just got out of prison and killed the real cribera, stealing his laptop and now posting on slashdot under his name.
It would also explain the trolling. You do that cause you're a sociopath.
its not hedging their bets, its the more scientific rationale to call yourself agnostic because its impossible to disprove something doesn;t exist
Except it's not.
A real agnostic would give same credence to existence of Superman or fairies as he/she would to existence of god.
Because, "Hey... maybe... I don't know."
It's not scientific or rational to assume "Just because I repeatedly checked the box and found it empty, doesn't mean a cupcake won't suddenly appear inside when I die and take me to cupcake land".
It's either crazy, or intellectually and morally dishonest.
Absence of evidence is not just "NOT evidence of absence".
It's primarily ABSENCE OF EVIDENCE.
Again and again.
Repeatedly.
Constantly.
It adds up.
Or down.
To "NO".
And based on such "gathered" evidence, scientific and rational thinking is NOT to assume "maybe I don't see it, therefore it might be there".
Scientific and rational is to throw away the premise of anything being there.
One wouldn't keep drawing one's own blood and testing it for HIV just because all the tests so far showed NO EVIDENCE of presence of HIV in one's blood.
And that's looking for something that we actually know exists.
There's a reason Pascal's WAGER is not used as valid reasoning for any other "Yes or No" choice.
No, no, no... Grinch clearly has a heart and not "a big empty spot where heart used to be".
Or he HAD a heart.
How come "Maybe immortality cancels out curiosity." is related to " Imagine your own damn scifi alien race. With or without hookers and blackjack."?
Because SCIFI.
You know... The main topic.
You know, those completely imaginary stories, which people imagine around premises like "Maybe A with maybe B equals maybe C... Hmmm... How would that go?"
The second comment is me telling you to go and IMAGINE a plausible story of your own, around that concept or some other.
And I told it as a JOKE, which includes a reference to a comical SCIFI show.
Funny thing is, I added the Futurama reference to MAKE SURE no one mistook my reply for something other than jovial.
Clearly, that went well.
and both are modded up?
Easy. Someone else with mod points understood what I said and got the reference.
That I just threw out a premise out there for others to play with? I doubt you had that in mind with "about you".
It's a premise for a 1950-ish sort of scifi.
You could even back it up with some philosophy about civilizations and how they calm down and anchor intelligent species and even some science about how lower testosterone levels kill off the drive to do anything.
You know... to make the box you're putting it in seem more solid.
Except it's still thinking inside a box.
The main question is "Where are the ETs?"
NOT "Have they eliminated their curiosity and thus eliminated themselves?"
Fine!
Maybe they do eliminate themselves that way, maybe they don't. But where are all the OTHER ETs?
Huge Universe, remember? Not a small "maybe this thing explains it" box.
One of the reasons I dislike the Planet of the Apes remakes (though I don't like the originals either) is that they are completely missing that point.
Apes didn't "rise" defeating humans in some battle or through some immunity to a disease - THEY REPLACED THEM as the dominant, intelligent species after humans killed and culled themselves off.
The other ETs.
Well, I need Google to tell me what exactly means being a "Scorpio". Can't keep everything upstairs.
So science is smart? I don't need some 'religion' or 'non religion' to figure that I'm smart.
So what does that tell you about people who do need to be reassured about their "smartness", by grabbing onto correlations that will make them "appear 5-10% more smart"?
Hm, perhaps we are just: average?
Not every sample is representative of the whole population.
I can produce evidence of that.
Particularly since the opening of a mosque in my neighborhood.
And since they've figured out how not to blow out the speakers every other day.
Luckily, rubber foam administered into one's ears beats praying 10 times out of 10.
I think we already got him.
You mean Captain Picard Day?
I know no atheist who is seeking a replacement 'believe', we are simply not wired to "beleive" in something or have "faith".
Oh, there are plenty of those.
Just look up any group of self declared atheists and it will be chock-full of them.
Trouble is, they are not really atheists... and you'll often hear them declaring themselves "agnostic". I.e. Hedging their bets.
They also tend to be angry at one religion in particular, or tend to be more tolerant or leaning towards eastern religions like Buddhism and will still respect the local religious holidays and superstitions.
Can you tell I'm a Scorpio?
Google tells me that' why I am "dead serious in my mission to learn about others, to zero in on the essential questions, gleaning the secrets that lie within".
And then there are those who've "figured out" that "Science is smart. Atheists like science. So, being atheist means being smart." and are jumping on the chance for that ego boost by correlation.
Very similar to how being a nerd has of recently become socially acceptable and even cool, so much so that now nearly everyone is a nerd.
Particularly the jocks. They are now "sport nerds".
It confuses human hunger for understanding as need for an easy and simple answer.
So, it supposes a hole which needs to be plugged up by something.
Ignoring the possibility that the hole is there for ingesting, digesting, absorbing and rejecting information - and not to be plugged up.
Human body is full of holes that need to stay open for us to function normally. Plug em up... and we die.
Same goes with our minds. Starve them of new information and they wither and suffocate.
Plug them up with dogma and they drown in their own excrement.
On another note, the "argument" ignores even the possibility of no religion to begin with, and thus nothing to reject.
Thus, according to that logic, a born atheist would be an impossibility.
Or a very wile man, whose life has no "meaning and direction" and with a "big empty spot where heart used to be".
What was that called again... Oh right... Bullshit.
Author is a philosopher (i.e. bullshit artist), "a contributor to the NPR blog 13.7: Cosmos and Culture" and currently working on "a book about art and human nature".
Ergo, space+art+culture = Star Trek.
And as he is reaching for the lowest common denominator to hang his foregone conclusion on (and then wail on it until that straw flies out of that argument) - so Kirk as an imaginary opposite to an imaginary "Spockian" atheist.
Because that's what's recognizable to most people through cultural osmosis.
Who ever heard of Sybok as an opposite to Spock, right?
Oh... wait... That's the story where Kirk is the logical atheist and a Vulcan is a religious fanatic... oh...
How should I know? They are aliens.
I just gave you a premise. Imagine your own damn scifi alien race. With or without hookers and blackjack.
Maybe immortality cancels out curiosity.
...in a decade or so 1 LoC will fit on a 1 portable memory device the size of a postage stamp?
I mean... only a decade or so ago 1 portable memory device the size of a postage stamp had about 1000 times smaller capacity.
Which means that we'll finally be able to use LoCs as a practical measure of size, distance, speed, weight...
Oh! So it shouldn't be a reduced version of the biblical 10 + 1 new age eco one?
Well shit... are you now telling us that not only are you an idiot who does not know what a law IS (and that's not a philosophical issue - there's no room for "what it SHOULD be" in it) - you are also full of shit and won't abide to your own idea of "3 laws only"?
Oh... wait... You're actually retarded... oh...
You probably think law is some letters on paper made up to annoy you personally and steal your freedomz.
That's sad.
I demand you be imprisoned for life. That's not hurting. You'll be fine.
Also, it will keep you from crapping where we all live.
There. Now please, fuck off from the internet until you at least learn what a law is.
...or happiness.
Everything else you have to be able to TRADE or it is worthless or illegal to trade or posses.
And while there is a long and fruitful career to be had in trading illegal shit, they tend to end abruptly and violently.
The reason you don't see more available from the likes of HP, Dell, Acer, and others is because it creates a support nightmare.
They don't see them cause most people on slashdot are from a wealthy western economy.
All those notebook/laptop makers have models made for and sold exclusively to customers in Eastern Europe.
And said models tend not to be found on their main site, but on the sites of their licensed distributors in Eastern European countries.
That's who gets the support calls. Which are usually settled with a "bring it around and we'll have a look at it".
Those models also tend to be labeled as "no OS" or "Linux OS"... but if the local distributor is also an OEM partner, they may put an OEM Windows installation on those machines if the customer wants it.
Usually for free.
Or maybe not.
Maybe it's illegal and they would NEVER think of doing that just to sell a laptop and accessories and future support and...
http://www.businessweek.com/ne...
RWE AG said Aug. 12 it will halt an extra 1,005 megawatts of coal and lignite capacity by the first quarter of 2017, taking the total planned capacity cuts to 8,940 megawatts. Old lignite plants are candidates for closing, according to New York-based Pira, whose clients include oil companies, utilities and governments. A thousand megawatts is enough to power 2 million European homes.
They are shutting down the old coal plants, replacing them with new, more efficient and cleaner ones... and now they have to shut down and reduce production of those too.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/...
Wind and solarâ(TM)s share of installed German power capacity will rise to 42 percent by next year from 30 percent in 2010, according to European Union data compiled by Citigroup Inc. The share of hard coal and lignite plant capacity will drop to 28 percent from 32 percent, the data show.
German utilities plan to start new hard-coal plants with 5,606 megawatts of capacity this year and next, data from Bonn-based national grid regulator Bundesnetzagentur show. That compares with a target of at least 10,000 megawatts from new solar and wind installations in 2014 and 2015 under Germanyâ(TM)s renewable energy act, which takes effect Aug. 1. Solar output reached a record 24,244 megawatts on June 6, according to EEX.
Because... They are getting more out of all the solar and wind than expected. They are getting negative electricity prices in January and May.
http://www.reuters.com/article...
http://www.businessinsider.com...
Preferably from the orbit.
It's the only way to be sure.