Mike, I am a European and we will soon (probably 18 months) have the same shit imposed on us. I am prepared to be as much of an arsehole as possible to get your DMCA weakened, and I hope that you Americans will return the favour for us. My gesture was small, but Dave Tourtsky liked it...
http://asdf.org/~fatphil/maths/illegal.html
I believe an online discussion group called 'slashdot' once ran a story on it...
http://slashdot.org/articles/01/03/17/1639250.sh tm l
There's nothing quite like having a firm business plan is there. Or maybe not - maybe flexibility is the key!
I don't know how available porn was via Yahoo in the past, but it would be interesting to find out if this new 'moral stance' does diminish the amount there is.
They're going for the family values dollar - very clever...
(As always, respect to the genius of Bill Hicks)
Both news stories state that it was Thai booty stolen by the Japanese.
The guy is not Japanese, and is not claiming it should be considered as Japanese property.
You need to reread the link in the header, and get yourself moderated down as 'redundant' and 'misinformed'.
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It's VERY out of whack! The punishment no longer fits the crime anywhere in the USA. As one poster pointed out on an earlier/. story, it's possible to get a FRACTION of the jail time for running over Jack Valenti in your car (vehicular manslaughter) than violating the DMCA!
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I'm confused. Are either of those crimes? They both sound like good things to do.
If that were only the case. I know in many of the more backward (and they think they're more advanced) countries in Europe, the "paraphenalia" is illegal. A clean glass bong is illegal, even if it's obviously unused. Sad but true.
Similarly, as we speak, the US is trying to make all hemp rope plants illegal (with 10^-5 THC yield, i.e. nothing), because it will make their war on drugs easier to police.
It happens everywhere, it's far easier to use a broader brush...
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2. Most schools, obviously, are run and owned by the government, and thus government is allowed to circumvent many laws with regard to access and
search. It's probably Unconstitutional, but the courts have seemingly long since given up on demaning ANY substantive "probable cause" for issuing warrants.
"
You make it sound as if this took place in the USA. However, it didn't.
In the eyes of the generators of the music, they have broken the law. So they ought to be punished somehow. I suggest the fairest punishment is to make them pay for the albums that they have. However, as _no_ retailer, _no_ wholesaler, _no_ distributor, (and no marketing) was needed in order to get the album to the offender. That should keep the fine down to quite a reasonable level, don't you think...
Yup, now add a parameter to that - 'hardness'?
Hard realtime means if you don't get it done in time, you may as well kill yourself, you've failed.
Soft realtime means there's a time limit, but things will recover if you don't manage to make it.
Hard realtime includes things like the transmission of telemetrics from sensors near nuclear tests, which basically will only exist for a thousandth of a second.
If any type of QOS is an issue, then many comms apps are hard realtime too.
For embedded comms apps, I've often used the OSE kernel. However, it doesn't matter how stable these OSes are most of the time. If the applications that run on them run out of control _and_ there's no way to clean up after them, you're stuffed. And in nearly 10 years of embedded comms experience, with most of those OSes, and more, I've never come across a good way of cleaning up apart from the power cycle...
Name your (consumer) OS, and I'll name an app that can kill it. (Most of the time it will be Netscape, of course).
What morally clean internet?
Never was, never will be.
My first use of e-mail - exchanging porn
My first use of usenet - grabbing porn
My first use of the web - searching for porn (there wasn't as much back then as it wasn't commercial)
Amount of porn on my 20G disk? About 1G, because it's get's so _damn_ _boring_ after a while.
Having said that - pr0nomatic is excellent. Link anyone?
Many countries in Europe are as hypocritical as the USA, we aren't one jurisdiction yet, you know.
For 'decency' freedoms, I'd put the Nordic countries and Holland at the top of the heap. Germany isn't far behind. Take a look at the old alt.sex.movies FAQ for some pointers in this regard.
However, for other freedoms some of them are right at the bottom of the heap. The 'sin taxes' in Scandinavia (alcohol/ciggies/soft drugs), show that some things are far from freedoms.
Hoorah for Holland, that's my conclusion. (The Netherlands as a whole, even, no offense meant.) --
I'm not the owner of an internal combustion engine, so I've not put too much mind to this issue.
Can I repeat the story of the 'pro-rata' traffic fines in Finland? Basically you are fined X-days wages for an offence, so if you are a top ice-hockey player, and drive too quickly in your ferrari, you can get fined (the equiv. of) tens of thousands of dollars for a simple speeding offence! (and it has happened)
(this is not a reply to you, but to the scumbag to which you replied, I just wanted to continue your thread)
Hoorah for the so called proud Anglo-Saxons, whose heritage is erm, the Angles (not from Britain), and the Saxons (not from Britain).
Want to be 'more' native? Try winding the clock back 500-1000 years, and call associating yourself with Celts. Then watch us inform you about the fact that the Celts came from even further east than the Saxons.
In order to verify your racial purity I will need a blood sample - 8 pints should do...
I'm not all that anti-CCTV myself (as I indicated in my first post), but I hang around on a mailing list of 'liberals' (US sense), and I know that there is quite a large (minority) anti-CCTV feeling in the UK.
Do you just 'feel safer', or do you have any statistics that indicate that the crime level has significantly dropped since the installation of the cameras?
I.e. would the money actually have been better spent on real coppers, who are able to do far much than just watch crime being committed, or even on roller-blades for coppers, so that they can get around quicker. CCTVs have certainly _not_ proved their worth yet in the UK.
Personally I'm in Finland, where when I travel on the train or underground if I wanted I could avoid paying, because one stamps ones own ticket. And (5 years ago at least) you don't lock your car door when parking to pick someone up from the airport - why would you lock your car doors?
It certainly has its place (I think that it's pretty much essential in car-parks), but on the whole the feeling seems to be that having coppers videoing you while you're cheering for Watford, is an invasion of privacy.
The Mark Thomas (Comedy Product) on Channel 4 last series did a big thing about the civil liberties issues behind CCTV.
The origins of the multicast principles come from the early eighties. Even what was cutting edge back then is old technology now. I rememeber the Germans had a project called 'dv' which I think just meant 'digital video' in about 1984, for example, which was multicast based.
Anything which worked back then on cutting edge 68K machines (I'm guessing a lot of it was done on Suns) can be done with bugger all of an Athlon.
Yup indeed. It's just that the "in black and white, THIS IS A SPOOF", seemed to be missed by most people. As it was missed I though't I'd make it even more obvious. It was not your intelligence I was insulting, you don't need to worry:-)
If you can't hack it together in vi, notepad and whatever the simple Mac text editor is called, then I think it's not so likely to catch on. It appears that they have this 'you must use our tools' attitude.
And talk about blinkered - you can't get the impression of what it looks like until you download a damn plugin. Which no doubt they'll count in a '5000000 users worldwide' counter...
The short description - to replace Java and JS sounded just what I'm after (I've dabbled with both, and they both have too many weaknesses for me to want to get seriously into) so I went there with not just an open mind, but a positive bias. And they've turned me into a (negative) critic already. That surely can't be considered as good.
It's a great spoof post - the last line gives it away though...
"
Also, I have submitted this to slashdot with the title "A Proposed Remedy Involving Lingering Fud and Organizational Objections to Linux Systems." Be on the lookout for it.
"
or more briefly
A. P. R. I. L. F. and O. O. to L. S.
Length of code is no indication of complexity. The RSA Perl/dc script was only 4 lines long, and was _strong_ encryption (if you chose primes big enough). The 'discrete logarithm' problem can be described in 1 line, and is the root of much strong crypto.
Slashdot Mirror
Mike, I am a European and we will soon (probably 18 months) have the same shit imposed on us. I am prepared to be as much of an arsehole as possible to get your DMCA weakened, and I hope that you Americans will return the favour for us. My gesture was small, but Dave Tourtsky liked it...
h tm l
http://asdf.org/~fatphil/maths/illegal.html
I believe an online discussion group called 'slashdot' once ran a story on it...
http://slashdot.org/articles/01/03/17/1639250.s
FatPhil
--
Back 10 years ago, there were alwys horror stories about Connor drives. I still have mine, that I bought 10 1/2 years ago. I guess I was lucky...
(i.e. don't believe it until it happens to you)
FP.
--
There's nothing quite like having a firm business plan is there. Or maybe not - maybe flexibility is the key!
I don't know how available porn was via Yahoo in the past, but it would be interesting to find out if this new 'moral stance' does diminish the amount there is.
They're going for the family values dollar - very clever...
(As always, respect to the genius of Bill Hicks)
FP.
--
Both news stories state that it was Thai booty stolen by the Japanese.
The guy is not Japanese, and is not claiming it should be considered as Japanese property.
You need to reread the link in the header, and get yourself moderated down as 'redundant' and 'misinformed'.
FP.
--
" /. story, it's possible to get a FRACTION of the jail time for running over Jack Valenti in your car (vehicular manslaughter) than violating the DMCA!
It's VERY out of whack! The punishment no longer fits the crime anywhere in the USA. As one poster pointed out on an earlier
"
I'm confused. Are either of those crimes? They both sound like good things to do.
FP.
--
If that were only the case. I know in many of the more backward (and they think they're more advanced) countries in Europe, the "paraphenalia" is illegal. A clean glass bong is illegal, even if it's obviously unused. Sad but true.
Similarly, as we speak, the US is trying to make all hemp rope plants illegal (with 10^-5 THC yield, i.e. nothing), because it will make their war on drugs easier to police.
It happens everywhere, it's far easier to use a broader brush...
FP.
--
"
2. Most schools, obviously, are run and owned by the government, and thus government is allowed to circumvent many laws with regard to access and
search. It's probably Unconstitutional, but the courts have seemingly long since given up on demaning ANY substantive "probable cause" for issuing warrants.
"
You make it sound as if this took place in the USA. However, it didn't.
FP.
--
In the eyes of the generators of the music, they have broken the law. So they ought to be punished somehow. I suggest the fairest punishment is to make them pay for the albums that they have. However, as _no_ retailer, _no_ wholesaler, _no_ distributor, (and no marketing) was needed in order to get the album to the offender. That should keep the fine down to quite a reasonable level, don't you think...
FP.
--
Yup, now add a parameter to that - 'hardness'?
Hard realtime means if you don't get it done in time, you may as well kill yourself, you've failed.
Soft realtime means there's a time limit, but things will recover if you don't manage to make it.
Hard realtime includes things like the transmission of telemetrics from sensors near nuclear tests, which basically will only exist for a thousandth of a second.
If any type of QOS is an issue, then many comms apps are hard realtime too.
FatPhil
--
For embedded comms apps, I've often used the OSE kernel. However, it doesn't matter how stable these OSes are most of the time. If the applications that run on them run out of control _and_ there's no way to clean up after them, you're stuffed. And in nearly 10 years of embedded comms experience, with most of those OSes, and more, I've never come across a good way of cleaning up apart from the power cycle...
Name your (consumer) OS, and I'll name an app that can kill it. (Most of the time it will be Netscape, of course).
Asbestos underpants donned.
FP.
--
What morally clean internet?
Never was, never will be.
My first use of e-mail - exchanging porn
My first use of usenet - grabbing porn
My first use of the web - searching for porn (there wasn't as much back then as it wasn't commercial)
Amount of porn on my 20G disk? About 1G, because it's get's so _damn_ _boring_ after a while.
Having said that - pr0nomatic is excellent. Link anyone?
FP.
--
On a sensible note, they do use different domain names for other services, so I'm sure they can insulate and isolate.
FP.
(It was my gf's idea for the domain name, honest!)
--
Many countries in Europe are as hypocritical as the USA, we aren't one jurisdiction yet, you know.
For 'decency' freedoms, I'd put the Nordic countries and Holland at the top of the heap. Germany isn't far behind. Take a look at the old alt.sex.movies FAQ for some pointers in this regard.
However, for other freedoms some of them are right at the bottom of the heap. The 'sin taxes' in Scandinavia (alcohol/ciggies/soft drugs), show that some things are far from freedoms.
Hoorah for Holland, that's my conclusion. (The Netherlands as a whole, even, no offense meant.)
--
I'm not the owner of an internal combustion engine, so I've not put too much mind to this issue.
Can I repeat the story of the 'pro-rata' traffic fines in Finland? Basically you are fined X-days wages for an offence, so if you are a top ice-hockey player, and drive too quickly in your ferrari, you can get fined (the equiv. of) tens of thousands of dollars for a simple speeding offence! (and it has happened)
FP.
--
(this is not a reply to you, but to the scumbag to which you replied, I just wanted to continue your thread)
Hoorah for the so called proud Anglo-Saxons, whose heritage is erm, the Angles (not from Britain), and the Saxons (not from Britain).
Want to be 'more' native? Try winding the clock back 500-1000 years, and call associating yourself with Celts. Then watch us inform you about the fact that the Celts came from even further east than the Saxons.
In order to verify your racial purity I will need a blood sample - 8 pints should do...
FP.
--
How useful were the CCTVs in the prevention of Jamie Bolger's death? (famous UK CCTV-related story)
FP.
--
I'm not all that anti-CCTV myself (as I indicated in my first post), but I hang around on a mailing list of 'liberals' (US sense), and I know that there is quite a large (minority) anti-CCTV feeling in the UK.
Do you just 'feel safer', or do you have any statistics that indicate that the crime level has significantly dropped since the installation of the cameras?
I.e. would the money actually have been better spent on real coppers, who are able to do far much than just watch crime being committed, or even on roller-blades for coppers, so that they can get around quicker. CCTVs have certainly _not_ proved their worth yet in the UK.
Personally I'm in Finland, where when I travel on the train or underground if I wanted I could avoid paying, because one stamps ones own ticket. And (5 years ago at least) you don't lock your car door when parking to pick someone up from the airport - why would you lock your car doors?
--
It certainly has its place (I think that it's pretty much essential in car-parks), but on the whole the feeling seems to be that having coppers videoing you while you're cheering for Watford, is an invasion of privacy.
The Mark Thomas (Comedy Product) on Channel 4 last series did a big thing about the civil liberties issues behind CCTV.
FatPhil
--
The origins of the multicast principles come from the early eighties. Even what was cutting edge back then is old technology now. I rememeber the Germans had a project called 'dv' which I think just meant 'digital video' in about 1984, for example, which was multicast based.
Anything which worked back then on cutting edge 68K machines (I'm guessing a lot of it was done on Suns) can be done with bugger all of an Athlon.
FP.
--
Yup indeed. It's just that the "in black and white, THIS IS A SPOOF", seemed to be missed by most people. As it was missed I though't I'd make it even more obvious. It was not your intelligence I was insulting, you don't need to worry :-)
FP.
--
Yes, but that's the server-side technology.
You can use whatever server-side preparation you like to serve your client-side active pages, you know.
FatPhil
--
If you can't hack it together in vi, notepad and whatever the simple Mac text editor is called, then I think it's not so likely to catch on. It appears that they have this 'you must use our tools' attitude.
And talk about blinkered - you can't get the impression of what it looks like until you download a damn plugin. Which no doubt they'll count in a '5000000 users worldwide' counter...
The short description - to replace Java and JS sounded just what I'm after (I've dabbled with both, and they both have too many weaknesses for me to want to get seriously into) so I went there with not just an open mind, but a positive bias. And they've turned me into a (negative) critic already. That surely can't be considered as good.
FP.
--
It's a great spoof post - the last line gives it away though...
"
Also, I have submitted this to slashdot with the title "A Proposed Remedy Involving Lingering Fud and Organizational Objections to Linux Systems." Be on the lookout for it.
"
or more briefly
A. P. R. I. L. F. and O. O. to L. S.
geddit?
--
SGML?
You mean that's _not_ Silicon Graphic's Media Language?
FP.
(I bloody know, alright)
--
Length of code is no indication of complexity. The RSA Perl/dc script was only 4 lines long, and was _strong_ encryption (if you chose primes big enough). The 'discrete logarithm' problem can be described in 1 line, and is the root of much strong crypto.
FatPhil
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