I think this is 'a bad thing'.
I don't think standards like this scale well.
What would happen if someone said
"Let's add 2 new data pins to RS232"?
I live in a country where we want 3 extra symbols to accomodate the language. They're all in Latin-1, of course. I don't even think that expanding to 8-bit Latin-1 is necessarily a good thing, let alone introducing an entirely new character encoding (16-bit) to the scheme of things.
I don't want to be
"f\0a\0t\0p\0h\0i\0l\0.\0o\0r\0g\0\0"
We don't let Russian trains into central Europe (the tracks are wider), why should be let Kanji into our character sets. (Yes, I know Russian trains do come to Europe, I live at the end of one of the lines, just not central europe!)
Anyway, here's to 3-bit serial lines...
(Could I patent that? I'd need to design an IC of flip-flap-flup-flipflop-catflap-flatcap-fatcat-flo ps first...)
I rarely if ever moderate, so I usually have them spare...
Thanks for backing me up, whoever you are.
You'd have got an upmod some time soon if you hadn't AC's:-)
The large empires were fairly economically advanced in biblical times. Payment of taxes to the emperor, being the most simple example of (exploitative) mechanisms that were in place.
However, the God at that time _was_ the emperor.
And the God in this day and age is simply an anachronistic metaphor.
So whatever biblical quotes you come up with can't change the fact that property is not a god given right.
From the SA page:
"
... and the weak nuclear force, which governs beta decay--a form of natural radioactivity--...
"
You know it's "popular science" when they come up with phrases like "natural radioactivity".
What's an unnatural radioactivity then?
Having said that I remember bugger all about Higgs fields, so thanks for the links, I'll put up with the "popular" nature in the interest of learning.
Has the canton Geneva is in given women the vote yet?
(It's a republic where the different Cantons have their own internal political systems, which includes deciding whether the female of the species can have the vote.)
So not everyone is lucky to live in Switzerland...
The Americans fall for this more than the Europeans do.
AMD sales in Europe have been increasing _hugely_ over tha last year or so. Intels have stayed nearly flat. And given that the whole market has grown, "flat" means "down"...
Two points
1) If the attack is coming from _within_ an ISP, all bets are off.
2) How many people/corperations are there who do have 45Mb/s access? The last 2 fortune 500 IT companies (one 100, one 100-200) I worked for had 2Mb/s.
Surely that must narrow the attacker down somewhat.
I can't believe that ISPs are happy to _carry_ the attack. Why can't the ISPs be made responsible for the DoSs that they carry, maybe then they'd help trace them to their source as they pointed the fickle finger of blame further up the pipe.
OK, but music is surrounded with RIAA restrictions, software might (I don't know) be completely different.
Is there anyone out there who knows whether it would be legal or not.
If it would be then the exercise, for those so inclined, simply remains to work out how to abuse this protocol, and carelessly implement it in order to get back to where we are now.
However, it would be nice for at least everyone to start with a legal sanction.
Yes. You are spot on.
Simply make sure that you bounce it with a 550 or whatever, and then any real human beings will see why they can't get things to you. And spammers end up with loads of 550s in their in-boxes. Tough doodoos for them.
The page says "If you can prove that you have the originals of the game but they no longer work, or you have lost the originals but have the package, or the receipt, them please request a backup from our library (which we legally own) from x@y.com".
Then the user e-mails proof to x, who promptly provides the backup?
You'll find it hard to find anyone who doesn't reply to that question (best Linux for clustering) with their current flavour of the month home Linux. We're too damn partisan.
I've used 4 distributions in the last 2 years. I only use Linux, at the moment I however rank them by which is least sucky.
My intention is to have my N machines properly clustered, so I read this thread with excitement. However, if the conclusions are XxxXxx or XxXX, then I'll give up right away.
'
However, I can't think of a non-vulgar or non-pornographic instance of "cum guzzler" or "suck my dick" which would be fine to block in my opinion.
'
OK, it's obtuse, but I have to...
My youngest child loves milkshakes, when given one at MacDonalds she turns a veritable slurper cum guzzler, which invariably leads to those 'ice' headaches and typically quite a mess too.
Later in the paper I will be discussing the recent research by Professor Hassuck my Dickensian mentor during my early research.
I always read replies (even the -1 ACs which are simply swearing at me).
I will admit that I found all the +2s a bit perturbing. It's remarkable how many idiots have reached the automatic +2 level.
That's why I try to post at +1. It's not my job to moderate myself up. However, sometimes I get hasty and I forget to check the box.
And sometimes I get a bit hasty and I just post a rant. Hell, I take -ve moderation on the chin if I deserve it!
It's similar to the Napster philosophy - "sharing is good as long as I get more than I give" type thing.
I hobby-code in a fairly competative field. We're all cooperative, but I only like to distribute version x of my code after I've started using version x+1, which is faster/better of course. Share - but only so much.
Their solution is to say
"we do not directly support linux, and therefore will not supply drivers for it; however have out interface spec - feel free to write your own (modulo NDA)."
Personally I don't need the source code, and I don't care who compiled the executable. Only two things matter - does it seem to work and when it appears it doesn't is there someone interested in fixing it.
If I had to tweak the source code myself, I'd be prepared to sign an NDA. There's nothing immoral about NDAs you know.
Don't be fooled, it's the feather and the stone...
In space, it matters little what your size is, as there's bugger all drag (which is proportional to area facing the flow).
However, the issue of how far they can wind forward a >2 body problem is pertinent.
I guess if they're giving probabilities, they must have worked out some kind of a bell-curve, a probability map of where it could be in space. We just have to assume that the perturbation theorists have given the prediction the thumbs up.
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I think this is 'a bad thing'.
o ps first...)
I don't think standards like this scale well.
What would happen if someone said
"Let's add 2 new data pins to RS232"?
I live in a country where we want 3 extra symbols to accomodate the language. They're all in Latin-1, of course. I don't even think that expanding to 8-bit Latin-1 is necessarily a good thing, let alone introducing an entirely new character encoding (16-bit) to the scheme of things.
I don't want to be
"f\0a\0t\0p\0h\0i\0l\0.\0o\0r\0g\0\0"
We don't let Russian trains into central Europe (the tracks are wider), why should be let Kanji into our character sets. (Yes, I know Russian trains do come to Europe, I live at the end of one of the lines, just not central europe!)
Anyway, here's to 3-bit serial lines...
(Could I patent that? I'd need to design an IC of flip-flap-flup-flipflop-catflap-flatcap-fatcat-fl
FatPhil
I rarely if ever moderate, so I usually have them spare... :-)
Thanks for backing me up, whoever you are.
You'd have got an upmod some time soon if you hadn't AC's
FatPhil
"An hoax"?
Please post a reference from the normative grammer of the English language to back up your claim.
I can wait...
FatPhil
Yet they failed to turn "Free Parking" into "Free
Surfing", or something equally net-oriented.
FatPhil
SUN = Stanford University Networks.
The large empires were fairly economically advanced in biblical times. Payment of taxes to the emperor, being the most simple example of (exploitative) mechanisms that were in place.
However, the God at that time _was_ the emperor.
And the God in this day and age is simply an anachronistic metaphor.
So whatever biblical quotes you come up with can't change the fact that property is not a god given right.
FatPhil
A rather English slant, but I found it quite fun!
http://hepwww.ph.qmw.ac.uk/epp/higgs3.html
(i.e. from High Energy Physics at the University of London, for those interested)
There are 5 descriptions, indexed at
http://hepwww.ph.qmw.ac.uk/epp/higgs.html
But I think that number 3 is the best!
FatPhil
I know this is OT, but how many sigmas did the Cold Fusion positives accumulate before they were all down-modded?
It's nice to compare relative "scientific" "certainties".
You'd never hear mathmos say "My theorem's truer than yours"...
Oh, sorry, actually you would!!!
FatPhil
From the SA page: ...
"
... and the weak nuclear force, which governs beta decay--a form of natural radioactivity--
"
You know it's "popular science" when they come up with phrases like "natural radioactivity".
What's an unnatural radioactivity then?
Having said that I remember bugger all about Higgs fields, so thanks for the links, I'll put up with the "popular" nature in the interest of learning.
FatPhil
Phil
Has the canton Geneva is in given women the vote yet?
(It's a republic where the different Cantons have their own internal political systems, which includes deciding whether the female of the species can have the vote.)
So not everyone is lucky to live in Switzerland...
FatPhil
The Americans fall for this more than the Europeans do.
AMD sales in Europe have been increasing _hugely_ over tha last year or so. Intels have stayed nearly flat. And given that the whole market has grown, "flat" means "down"...
FatPhil
(Last 4 processors bought, Ath800, Ath550, Axp21164, K6-3...)
Two points
1) If the attack is coming from _within_ an ISP, all bets are off.
2) How many people/corperations are there who do have 45Mb/s access? The last 2 fortune 500 IT companies (one 100, one 100-200) I worked for had 2Mb/s.
Surely that must narrow the attacker down somewhat.
I can't believe that ISPs are happy to _carry_ the attack. Why can't the ISPs be made responsible for the DoSs that they carry, maybe then they'd help trace them to their source as they pointed the fickle finger of blame further up the pipe.
FatPhil
OK, but music is surrounded with RIAA restrictions, software might (I don't know) be completely different.
Is there anyone out there who knows whether it would be legal or not.
If it would be then the exercise, for those so inclined, simply remains to work out how to abuse this protocol, and carelessly implement it in order to get back to where we are now.
However, it would be nice for at least everyone to start with a legal sanction.
FatPhil
I love you too, lets meet up for a glass of wine and a chit-chat.
Yes. You are spot on.
Simply make sure that you bounce it with a 550 or whatever, and then any real human beings will see why they can't get things to you. And spammers end up with loads of 550s in their in-boxes. Tough doodoos for them.
FatPhil
What happened to the blacklist of 'spammer' domains that was constantly kept up to date.
(With its oh so memorable FLA name!)
My "ISP" has the following 550 messages waiting for you if you connect to its SMTP port from the wrong location
550 We do not accpet mail from Yahoo.com a known spammer domain.
Anyone with their own SMTP port can implement this.
FatPhil
The page says "If you can prove that you have the originals of the game but they no longer work, or you have lost the originals but have the package, or the receipt, them please request a backup from our library (which we legally own) from x@y.com".
Then the user e-mails proof to x, who promptly provides the backup?
Would that be legal?
Phil
You'll find it hard to find anyone who doesn't reply to that question (best Linux for clustering) with their current flavour of the month home Linux. We're too damn partisan.
I've used 4 distributions in the last 2 years. I only use Linux, at the moment I however rank them by which is least sucky.
My intention is to have my N machines properly clustered, so I read this thread with excitement. However, if the conclusions are XxxXxx or XxXX, then I'll give up right away.
FatPhil
(Xxxxxx is least sucky presently)
'
However, I can't think of a non-vulgar or non-pornographic instance of "cum guzzler" or "suck my dick" which would be fine to block in my opinion.
'
OK, it's obtuse, but I have to...
My youngest child loves milkshakes, when given one at MacDonalds she turns a veritable slurper cum guzzler, which invariably leads to those 'ice' headaches and typically quite a mess too.
Later in the paper I will be discussing the recent research by Professor Hassuck my Dickensian mentor during my early research.
Lick my love pump.
FatPhil
(with all due respect)
I always read replies (even the -1 ACs which are simply swearing at me).
I will admit that I found all the +2s a bit perturbing. It's remarkable how many idiots have reached the automatic +2 level.
That's why I try to post at +1. It's not my job to moderate myself up. However, sometimes I get hasty and I forget to check the box.
And sometimes I get a bit hasty and I just post a rant. Hell, I take -ve moderation on the chin if I deserve it!
Now we really are off-topic!
FatPhil
Hox Dox. Never seen it. It's taken the mystery away now, but I think I'm better off for the knowledge...
FatPhil
Slink, Potato, Woody, ...
In the IQ test of "which word comes next" I'd fail.
My guess would be "plectrum" or "orifice", can't decide which.
FatPhil
(again with all due respect)
It's similar to the Napster philosophy - "sharing is good as long as I get more than I give" type thing.
I hobby-code in a fairly competative field. We're all cooperative, but I only like to distribute version x of my code after I've started using version x+1, which is faster/better of course. Share - but only so much.
Donc je m'accuse.
Sue me.
FatPhil
Their solution is to say
"we do not directly support linux, and therefore will not supply drivers for it; however have out interface spec - feel free to write your own (modulo NDA)."
Personally I don't need the source code, and I don't care who compiled the executable. Only two things matter - does it seem to work and when it appears it doesn't is there someone interested in fixing it.
If I had to tweak the source code myself, I'd be prepared to sign an NDA. There's nothing immoral about NDAs you know.
Phil
Don't be fooled, it's the feather and the stone...
In space, it matters little what your size is, as there's bugger all drag (which is proportional to area facing the flow).
However, the issue of how far they can wind forward a >2 body problem is pertinent.
I guess if they're giving probabilities, they must have worked out some kind of a bell-curve, a probability map of where it could be in space. We just have to assume that the perturbation theorists have given the prediction the thumbs up.
FatPhil