I knew people who broke windows, went *hunting* for birds behind the school, and showed up late to class with Burger King shakes and a medium pizza. The most they ever got was 7 days.
My school district would have probably done the same. They can relate to hunting, vandelism, and truency, but not anything computer related.
The best way to prevent horrible things like this is to get involved in other people's lives and give them options.
Let's face it. When school districts see talented young programmers and sys admin types, they see the capability to program a destructive virus or "hack" into a school system. Their first impulse is to control and punish. That's why the "zero tolerence" policies -- I.E. reducing options and isolating.
To ameliorate situations like these, I suggest setting aside one day a week to mentor computer talented kids.
I definately want to get involved in my local school district after I finish my MS. I want to teach something that I love (C++/OOP principles and the GNU/Linux environment) to local JH/HS kids.
If they get it, then they get it. If not, then at least they have somebody to talk to and confide in. I think that tech talented outcasts would be more like to reach out to a former tech talented outcast then any teacher. We'll see though...
/* The purpose of this program is to underwrite VA Linux's IPO (front some money).
VA and Credit Suisse agree to not tell the SEC what they are doing. Credit Suisse
also agrees to help the IPO look really good by getting "major investors" to buy
big at ** inflated prices ** after the IPO. This will return inflated profits and
will inevitable result in frenzied Post-IPO buying. */
int main(){
char VA_Linux = "Linux" ;
unsigned long int Make_Client_Overpay_After_IPO = 999999999999;/* money in cents */
unsigned long int A_Shit_Load_Of_Money_To_VA_And_Credit_Suisse = ;/* Money from IPO */
unsigned long int shares_left = 4500000;/* Number of Shares Left */
/* Legal */
agreeToUnderwriteShares(VA_Linux);/* From standard_Bank_Procedure.h
I am psyched about XHTML, but especially the ability to MOD it for specific applications. That's what makes XHTML Basic so *VERY* cool. I also know that whatever "Basic" spec we come up with, there will always be at least one feature somebody can't do without.
The feature I can't do without is forms.
All I want to do is take 1980's technology and make it interact with the web. If I could put my entire address book on a calculator watch, why can't I use a similar watch to exchange addresses, phone #'s via the web? Back then, I was doing a lot with a little four line LCD screen.
I think the spec is missing a very important piece of functionality -- a little interactivity.
I know they aren't kidding when they say BASIC, but what do you want in markup that'll work on a wristwatch as well as my PC. I know there aren't even tables in the spec, but it'd be a great way to "page" your friends.
It seems to me that this will be a big hit for "Push" content (like PointCast -- remember PointCast?) I just wish it could have tables and forms for more interactivity. I guess if you're getting pages on your smart watch it's not an issue.
Still I'd like the ability to punch in my zip code to get some weather updates, or something.
I wonder if they will make XHTML Basic less basic when people start adding tables and forms with XHTML Modules. Interactive sells. Is XHTML Basic, too basic? (No forms, or tables -- can Mod it though)
the money will be there. Can you really blame a University for profiting from academic research any more than profiting from a good athletic program?
Columbia will bring in $144 million this year, but do you know what Michigan grossed in sales of athletic apparel two years ago? Try $2 Billion.
If you want to bitch about how schools disregard their responsibilities to society take a good, long, hard look at how student athletes are shuffled through classes to play for high-visibility teams.
Pure academic research has its place. So does taking royalties for one's work. My question is this: If Michigan, FSU, North Carolina, and Nebraska are allowed to profit greatly from their athletic programs, why should Columbia not be allowed to profit from their research programs?
It seems to me that the true test of the immediate value of one's research is the price somebody else is willing to pay for it. I have no problem at all with Columbia using my money (Fed grants) to solve corporate problems and profit from it.
Students get relevant experience, corporations get a solution, the University profits, and the country is a better place for me to live in. One hand helps the other, and I benefit from the new technology, and the corporations more efficient use of resources.
If creating a product tailored to big business is so offensive to the slashdot taxpayer, answer me this: Where did the money that built Columbia's school of business come from?
Now tell me what is wrong with creating a technology think-tank sponsored by both the taxpayer and private businesses? Now, how is that different from a private business think-tank sponsored by both the taxpayer and private business?
My personal computing experience has gotten way to PERSONAL. As of right now I have a 10 gig drive divided up between Win98, WinNT 4.0, Win2000, and Red Hat/Mandrake Linux (depending on my mood). I know what you are thinking: "Why in the Hell would anybody want to do this?"
The short answer is: there isn't another way yet. I need 98 for: Partition Magic, which has too many issues under NT; my games; and my misc. CD Burner Utilities (that wont run on anything else).
I need NT 4.0 to run all the apps 2000 wont including my copy of Visual Basic 6.0, Boot Magic, and my Adaptec CD burner/Creater program.
To be fair I should mention that 98 and 2000 used to run my burner, and could again, if I format their partitions and re-install.
Until that happens, I will burn under NT (works great, but only with SP6), and check them under 98 'cause 2000 wont even run Adaptec anymore (reinstalls wont work). Win2K does everything else that Linux doesn't already do better.;)
I would gladly give my 10 gig kingdom to run everything I need, in one place, w/0 shelling out more money. I just want all my stuff to work in one place as cheaply as possible. My preference would be LINUX.
Wine is more than a way to run your favorite Win game. It has the potential to allow me to get all my work done faster. Quad booting is BULLSHIT, and friggin' time CONSUMING. There just isn't a better way... yet.
I wasn't always this hard -- I had OS/2 with Win 16 support back before Win95. Stable, and everything I needed was in one place. I loved it!! I'm patient. It's worth waiting for... again.
I remember when, just four short years ago, I purhcased OS/2 Warp and my friends thought I was nuts. "It's half an Operating System they said" -- I knew that they were intimidated by a superior OS that ran the same Win 16 and DOS apps (albeit a little slower).
I enjoyed stability, and the joys of true multitasking (not Win95 multithreading). No geek ever knocked the technical merits of OS/2 in my dorm. They just said "I like it too, but it just doesn't have the applications I need." Too bad for them -- OS/2 never ate my term papers. I enjoyed having a MS compatable OS that ran Win 16 apps better than Windows 3.1.
My OS/2 days are long gone -- as well as the 486 DX-2 40 that I ran it on. I'll remember OS/2 as a testament to the engineering talent of IBM and the ineptness of their Marketing team (OS/2 sponsored the superbowl -- didn't remember that? I'm not suprised).
I wonder if Linux would be as huge today if Windows had some stiffer (OS/2) competition. Maybe if Windows hadn't sucked donkey ass in such a hurry since then maybe we wouldn't have all these developers and user jumping ship to this labor-of-love called Linux.
I'll always remember OS/2 as a window killing piece of engineering bliss that just never blossomed. IBM: you suck.
First let me say, MS is what happens when corporations endorse unethical behavior and reward it hansomely with great stock options. I looked into possible defenses for a summary judgement to save the comments posted on Andover-owned servers.
I'm so frustrated, MS might as well have written the law -- it's damn near airtight (even though its application here has to be unconstitutional). Stanford Law's archives were somewhat reassuring in this "fair use" of copyrighted materials quote.
"The framers of the constitution maintained that a free exchange of knowledge is essential for the good of society, and it is from this assertion that both copyright law and the fair use doctrine find their roots." *
Now here is the relevant excerpt MS can bury Andover with (notice, I said Andover):
"(2) No person shall manufacture, import, offer to the public, provide, or otherwise traffic in any technology, product, service, device, componenet, or part thereof, that --
"(A) is primarily designed or produced for the purpose of circumventing a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title;
"(B) has only limited commercially significant purpose or use other than to circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title;
note:"(A) to 'circumvent a technological measure' means to descramble a scrambled work, to decrypt an encrypted work, or otherwise to avoid, bypass, remove, deactivate, or impair a technological measure, without the authority of the copyright owner; and
(B) a technological measure 'effectively controls access to a work' if that measure, in ordinary course of its operation, requires the application of information, or a process or a treatment, with the authority of the copyright owner, to gain access to the work."
Does anybody see anything that would help here? Just making information to circumvent the liscence makes Andover guilty as hell of making information available to more-easily cirumvent the software liscence. A serious crime. * http://fairuse.stanford.edu/articles/ If anybody asks me, I'll say: "you mean there is a liscence on that.pdf? I open all my.exe files with Winzip -- Don't you!?!?"
The Metalica vs. Napster lawsuit is so pointless (esp. banning the 300,000+ users) the only real explanation for it is Marketing. Honestly, I haven't thought about Metalica for years. Now, I think about them every time I log into slashdot. Am I alone in wanting to pick up a Metalica CD? I understand Metalica wanting to bury Napster (pointless). I understand them getting their names plastered everywhere -- subsequently boosting sales. I really want a Metalica CD now. Damn. The new marketing -- sue somebody who pisses you off, alienate a small demographic and sell a ton of records. Kudos to Metalica Management. Great job!! I do think that 300,000+ number is a bit inflated (for marketing purposes).
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There are some problems that you have to pay money to have.
I knew people who broke windows, went *hunting* for birds behind the school, and showed up late to class with Burger King shakes and a medium pizza. The most they ever got was 7 days.
My school district would have probably done the same. They can relate to hunting, vandelism, and truency, but not anything computer related.
Let's face it. When school districts see talented young programmers and sys admin types, they see the capability to program a destructive virus or "hack" into a school system. Their first impulse is to control and punish. That's why the "zero tolerence" policies -- I.E. reducing options and isolating.
To ameliorate situations like these, I suggest setting aside one day a week to mentor computer talented kids.
I definately want to get involved in my local school district after I finish my MS. I want to teach something that I love (C++/OOP principles and the GNU/Linux environment) to local JH/HS kids.
If they get it, then they get it. If not, then at least they have somebody to talk to and confide in. I think that tech talented outcasts would be more like to reach out to a former tech talented outcast then any teacher. We'll see though...
I probably would have taken my life too when I was that old. I would have done anything not to embarass my parents.
I would like to see the IP agreement
/* The purpose of this program is to underwrite VA Linux's IPO (front some money).
/* money in cents */
/* Money from IPO */
/* Number of Shares Left */
/* From standard_Bank_Procedure.h
/* From pretty_underhanded.h */
VA and Credit Suisse agree to not tell the SEC what they are doing. Credit Suisse
also agrees to help the IPO look really good by getting "major investors" to buy
big at ** inflated prices ** after the IPO. This will return inflated profits and
will inevitable result in frenzied Post-IPO buying. */
#include <standard_Bank_Procedure.h>
#include <pretty_underhanded.h>
int main(){
char VA_Linux = "Linux" ;
unsigned long int Make_Client_Overpay_After_IPO = 999999999999;
unsigned long int A_Shit_Load_Of_Money_To_VA_And_Credit_Suisse = ;
unsigned long int shares_left = 4500000;
/* Legal */
agreeToUnderwriteShares(VA_Linux);
do{
/* Illegal */
sell_Extra_Shares_Really_Cheap(excessive_fees);
sell_Shares_Cheap(Make_Client_Overpay_After_IPO);
sell_Shares_To_Anybody();
} while(VA_Does_Not_Disclose_To_SEC || shares_left == 0)
return A_Shit_Load_Of_Money_To_VA_And_Credit_Suisse;
}
I am psyched about XHTML, but especially the ability to MOD it for specific applications. That's what makes XHTML Basic so *VERY* cool. I also know that whatever "Basic" spec we come up with, there will always be at least one feature somebody can't do without.
The feature I can't do without is forms.
All I want to do is take 1980's technology and make it interact with the web. If I could put my entire address book on a calculator watch, why can't I use a similar watch to exchange addresses, phone #'s via the web? Back then, I was doing a lot with a little four line LCD screen.
I think the spec is missing a very important piece of functionality -- a little interactivity.
I know they aren't kidding when they say BASIC, but what do you want in markup that'll work on a wristwatch as well as my PC. I know there aren't even tables in the spec, but it'd be a great way to "page" your friends.
It seems to me that this will be a big hit for "Push" content (like PointCast -- remember PointCast?) I just wish it could have tables and forms for more interactivity. I guess if you're getting pages on your smart watch it's not an issue.
Still I'd like the ability to punch in my zip code to get some weather updates, or something.
I wonder if they will make XHTML Basic less basic when people start adding tables and forms with XHTML Modules. Interactive sells. Is XHTML Basic, too basic? (No forms, or tables -- can Mod it though)
the money will be there. Can you really blame a University for profiting from academic research any more than profiting from a good athletic program?
Columbia will bring in $144 million this year, but do you know what Michigan grossed in sales of athletic apparel two years ago? Try $2 Billion.
If you want to bitch about how schools disregard their responsibilities to society take a good, long, hard look at how student athletes are shuffled through classes to play for high-visibility teams.
Pure academic research has its place. So does taking royalties for one's work. My question is this: If Michigan, FSU, North Carolina, and Nebraska are allowed to profit greatly from their athletic programs, why should Columbia not be allowed to profit from their research programs?
It seems to me that the true test of the immediate value of one's research is the price somebody else is willing to pay for it. I have no problem at all with Columbia using my money (Fed grants) to solve corporate problems and profit from it.
Students get relevant experience, corporations get a solution, the University profits, and the country is a better place for me to live in. One hand helps the other, and I benefit from the new technology, and the corporations more efficient use of resources.
If creating a product tailored to big business is so offensive to the slashdot taxpayer, answer me this: Where did the money that built Columbia's school of business come from?
Now tell me what is wrong with creating a technology think-tank sponsored by both the taxpayer and private businesses? Now, how is that different from a private business think-tank sponsored by both the taxpayer and private business?
My personal computing experience has gotten way to PERSONAL. As of right now I have a 10 gig drive divided up between Win98, WinNT 4.0, Win2000, and Red Hat/Mandrake Linux (depending on my mood). I know what you are thinking: "Why in the Hell would anybody want to do this?"
;)
The short answer is: there isn't another way yet. I need 98 for: Partition Magic, which has too many issues under NT; my games; and my misc. CD Burner Utilities (that wont run on anything else).
I need NT 4.0 to run all the apps 2000 wont including my copy of Visual Basic 6.0, Boot Magic, and my Adaptec CD burner/Creater program.
To be fair I should mention that 98 and 2000 used to run my burner, and could again, if I format their partitions and re-install.
Until that happens, I will burn under NT (works great, but only with SP6), and check them under 98 'cause 2000 wont even run Adaptec anymore (reinstalls wont work). Win2K does everything else that Linux doesn't already do better.
I would gladly give my 10 gig kingdom to run everything I need, in one place, w/0 shelling out more money. I just want all my stuff to work in one place as cheaply as possible. My preference would be LINUX.
Wine is more than a way to run your favorite Win game. It has the potential to allow me to get all my work done faster. Quad booting is BULLSHIT, and friggin' time CONSUMING. There just isn't a better way... yet.
I wasn't always this hard -- I had OS/2 with Win 16 support back before Win95. Stable, and everything I needed was in one place. I loved it!! I'm patient. It's worth waiting for... again.
At least MS bundled more stuff. Yea, it sucked, but it's nice not to be nickled and dimed. I forgot how much that pissed me off.
I enjoyed stability, and the joys of true multitasking (not Win95 multithreading). No geek ever knocked the technical merits of OS/2 in my dorm. They just said "I like it too, but it just doesn't have the applications I need." Too bad for them -- OS/2 never ate my term papers. I enjoyed having a MS compatable OS that ran Win 16 apps better than Windows 3.1.
My OS/2 days are long gone -- as well as the 486 DX-2 40 that I ran it on. I'll remember OS/2 as a testament to the engineering talent of IBM and the ineptness of their Marketing team (OS/2 sponsored the superbowl -- didn't remember that? I'm not suprised).
I wonder if Linux would be as huge today if Windows had some stiffer (OS/2) competition. Maybe if Windows hadn't sucked donkey ass in such a hurry since then maybe we wouldn't have all these developers and user jumping ship to this labor-of-love called Linux.
I'll always remember OS/2 as a window killing piece of engineering bliss that just never blossomed. IBM: you suck.
I'm so frustrated, MS might as well have written the law -- it's damn near airtight (even though its application here has to be unconstitutional). Stanford Law's archives were somewhat reassuring in this "fair use" of copyrighted materials quote.
"The framers of the constitution maintained that a free exchange of knowledge is essential for the good of society, and it is from this assertion that both copyright law and the fair use doctrine find their roots." *
Now here is the relevant excerpt MS can bury Andover with (notice, I said Andover):
Does anybody see anything that would help here? Just making information to circumvent the liscence makes Andover guilty as hell of making information available to more-easily cirumvent the software liscence. A serious crime. .pdf? I open all my .exe files with Winzip -- Don't you!?!?"
* http://fairuse.stanford.edu/articles/
If anybody asks me, I'll say: "you mean there is a liscence on that
The Metalica vs. Napster lawsuit is so pointless (esp. banning the 300,000+ users) the only real explanation for it is Marketing. Honestly, I haven't thought about Metalica for years. Now, I think about them every time I log into slashdot. Am I alone in wanting to pick up a Metalica CD? I understand Metalica wanting to bury Napster (pointless). I understand them getting their names plastered everywhere -- subsequently boosting sales. I really want a Metalica CD now. Damn. The new marketing -- sue somebody who pisses you off, alienate a small demographic and sell a ton of records. Kudos to Metalica Management. Great job!! I do think that 300,000+ number is a bit inflated (for marketing purposes).