Thats not the way to look at it. There was another post talking about the McDonalds case, same deal. Fight tooth and nail to keep your domain and even if you do loose, go to the papers and to the media, make a noise and jump up and down. The media coverage may be worth more to you than the domain is. Having the roll over attitude only makes these corporations think that they can violate john citizen even further.
Hear, hear... Not quite the terminology I would have used but a point well put across May all spammers be infected with the Ebola virus so they will crack and bleed out.
very good, i think that you have hit the nail on the head by saying that
"Napster essentially provides an online flea market, where anyone with a modem can trade in the violation of copyrights"
Napster only provides the arena it by no means distributes these Mp3's which are the source of nightmares for the "gaggers" out there.
Rather than loosing the rhetoric, lets loose the metaphors. It is hardly stealing bread from the plates of others.
The main argument put forward by your beloved metallica is that the only songs that are downloaded are popular ones, hence made by popular bands. In the music industry popularity = profit there is no grey area, so if I take something from someone that is needy then yes it is cause for concern, but if i replicate a product of a gluttonous corporate miasma whos only concern is fistfucking every last cent out of the naive marketplace then its not something that I will loose sleep over.
It's not a question of napster at all or using it "to exchange INFORMATION instead of MP3's"
Mp3's have been traded since the beginning of time (metaphorically speaking) its not a napster issue is a $money$ issue. All napster has done is provide a meeting place for those who wish to trade their mp3's and since there is no central point from which napster operates, the policing of what metallica asks will be an exercise in futility for it is quite easy to rename a file
The time has come or the profiteering to stop, We're going to obtain free music one way or another and the only ones that it will suffer from it will be the gluttons record exec's and the megalomaniac bands who are more interested is profit than riffs.
In closing i would like to pose a question to all slashdot users:
Who are the people that are getting upset the most about their inability to charge for the drivel the try to pass off as art?
And to the user who posted the above intellectual ooze:
Which metallica album roolz the best? (Gramatical error intended!)
That is a good idea in theory, but does it not go against that whole idea of mp3's and even the internet itself? We are now a community where sharing isn't looked upon as a sign of weakness, and profiteering is a thing that , in some circles, could be considered a four letter word
Greed has no place on the internet and if napster were to make a deal with the devil (ne:Metallica) then it would only cut its own throat by bowing to the greed that is common place outside our "blue lagoon" that is the internet.
Thank you for your insightful post, pls do us a favor and don't. Its easy to criticise without an explanation and unfortunately it is not slashdot that looks stupid rather just yourself. By the way, get an account!
I dont mean to attack you directly but do you have any idea of the questions that you get asked as an IT support person? Think of the senario of 1500 users and four support guys (one which i am familiar with). Now you would think that this would be hard enough, but management keep moving your KPI's (key performence indicators) to such a level that it impossible to achieve a fraction of what is being asked, therefore no commission. So your broke, stressed, tired, hungover (from the drinking disorder that you have developed) and beginning to get the flu. So you will ahve to excuse us if we get a little testy when you come up and ask us how to change to "landscape" in your print options (for the 87th time).
God bless capitalism! Were not talking about a starving artist in his basement thrashing out canvas and water colour to try and make ends meet. These are all multi millionaires that have probably never spent a hungry night in thier lives. My argument is not so much about copyright, its the fact that they still consider themselves "artists". Lets call a spade a spade. They are no more artists than the company that produces "cheese in a can". Maybe they should all jump in thier metalli-plane and crash into the andes, they thier "art" might be worth more to the public.
"And justice for who.......?" This is just what we need, more bloated millionaire fat cats wailing about the fact that their "art" is being traded other than sold. It ceases to become art when you change to suit the widest audience possible and the bucks become more important than the riffs. As an "EX" metallica fan I am saddened to say that I saw somthing like this coming, pride,lust greed,envy, need i go on? Just change your name to "the backstreet boys" toss off over your record sales, and leave us the fuck alone.
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Thats not the way to look at it. There was another post talking about the McDonalds case, same deal.
Fight tooth and nail to keep your domain and even if you do loose, go to the papers and to the media, make a noise and jump up and down. The media coverage may be worth more to you than the domain is.
Having the roll over attitude only makes these corporations think that they can violate john citizen even further.
hahahahahaha......
Can you imagine the hit count??
I now have a new home page
Hear, hear...
Not quite the terminology I would have used but a point well put across
May all spammers be infected with the Ebola virus so they will crack and bleed out.
very good,
i think that you have hit the nail on the head by saying that
"Napster essentially provides an online flea market, where anyone with a modem can trade in the violation of copyrights"
Napster only provides the arena it by no means distributes these Mp3's which are the source of nightmares for the "gaggers" out there.
Rather than loosing the rhetoric, lets loose the metaphors. It is hardly stealing bread from the plates of others.
The main argument put forward by your beloved metallica is that the only songs that are downloaded are popular ones, hence made by popular bands. In the music industry popularity = profit there is no grey area, so if I take something from someone that is needy then yes it is cause for concern, but if i replicate a product of a gluttonous corporate miasma whos only concern is fistfucking every last cent out of the naive marketplace then its not something that I will loose sleep over.
Mp3's have been traded since the beginning of time (metaphorically speaking) its not a napster issue is a $money$ issue.
All napster has done is provide a meeting place for those who wish to trade their mp3's and since there is no central point from which napster operates, the policing of what metallica asks will be an exercise in futility for it is quite easy to rename a file
The time has come or the profiteering to stop, We're going to obtain free music one way or another and the only ones that it will suffer from it will be the gluttons record exec's and the megalomaniac bands who are more interested is profit than riffs.
In closing i would like to pose a question to all slashdot users:
Who are the people that are getting upset the most about their inability to charge for the drivel the try to pass off as art?
And to the user who posted the above intellectual ooze:
Which metallica album roolz the best? (Gramatical error intended!)
That is a good idea in theory, but does it not go against that whole idea of mp3's and even the internet itself?
We are now a community where sharing isn't looked upon as a sign of weakness, and profiteering is a thing that , in some circles, could be considered a four letter word
Greed has no place on the internet and if napster were to make a deal with the devil (ne:Metallica) then it would only cut its own throat by bowing to the greed that is common place outside our "blue lagoon" that is the internet.
Thank you for your insightful post, pls do us a favor and don't. Its easy to criticise without an explanation and unfortunately it is not slashdot that looks stupid rather just yourself. By the way, get an account!
I dont mean to attack you directly but do you have any idea of the questions that you get asked as an IT support person? Think of the senario of 1500 users and four support guys (one which i am familiar with). Now you would think that this would be hard enough, but management keep moving your KPI's (key performence indicators) to such a level that it impossible to achieve a fraction of what is being asked, therefore no commission. So your broke, stressed, tired, hungover (from the drinking disorder that you have developed) and beginning to get the flu. So you will ahve to excuse us if we get a little testy when you come up and ask us how to change to "landscape" in your print options (for the 87th time).
God bless capitalism! Were not talking about a starving artist in his basement thrashing out canvas and water colour to try and make ends meet. These are all multi millionaires that have probably never spent a hungry night in thier lives. My argument is not so much about copyright, its the fact that they still consider themselves "artists". Lets call a spade a spade. They are no more artists than the company that produces "cheese in a can". Maybe they should all jump in thier metalli-plane and crash into the andes, they thier "art" might be worth more to the public.
"And justice for who.......?" This is just what we need, more bloated millionaire fat cats wailing about the fact that their "art" is being traded other than sold. It ceases to become art when you change to suit the widest audience possible and the bucks become more important than the riffs. As an "EX" metallica fan I am saddened to say that I saw somthing like this coming, pride,lust greed,envy, need i go on? Just change your name to "the backstreet boys" toss off over your record sales, and leave us the fuck alone.