For example, DNS lookups and socket programming can be done simply by reading and writing files. the last time i looked at my middleware it was using file descriptors for socket connections. i wonder if their sockets only support "r" "r+" "w+".. options
i had to work on a pre-orbix corba compliant orb that came out of lucent/bell labs... it was pretty cool, but they really hyped it and it got squashed. it was designed for smart people with no care for the java-programmer-types... who knows, maybe they'll have more luck with inferno.
Often the Riemann Hypothesis is called Artin's conjecture. Personally I think Riemann's name is overused in mathematical circles. Emil Artin was a much better clavichord player after all...
so/. is into pre-hollywood release advertising.. they did make it big;)
Re:But how was my character?
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Hey Guy Montag,
I thought about you while I was rereading F451 last month. Unfortunatley my company has censored DC2600 as a crime/hacking site:(. You wouldn't happen to know of a mirror?
I personally spent some time scouring the internet for good songs that would keep me busy while my boss found more work for me. There were times that I realized I was doing something illegal, but the amount of time I spent doing it, and the quality of the mp3's I was able to get made it nothing more than a advertisement to go out and buy the CD. Not to mention the ILOVEYOU virus which would have destroyed all your mp3's if you were stupid enough to open the vbs attachment.
Re:We don't burn books, we delete them
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As the fireman's arguement was to protect the people fro the confusion that the books were causing. the distraught question that they would bring into their MUD minds, that was the reason for burning them.
but certainly I don't mind laughing at the 300,000+ Napster users named by Metallica...
Drudge reported sarcasticaly that all 300,000 Napster users proceeded to register new accounts as soon as they realized their's were deleted. I don't know how long it takes to register for a napster account and develop their form of karma, but in terms of lost man hours *nobody* should be laughing!
When people take the time to write a post, even if it may seem 'redundant' to one moderator, we should respect that and at least let it slide with a score of 1.
What about a democratic system in which all members can use there karma to give or take karma away from others' posts? This would be a democratic form of censorship, which may make us normal users who feel our power being stripped feel better. Would it be any better than censorship?
The book burning in F451 was more about a change in culture that allowed for censorship than censorship itself. The free speech afforded through the internet contributes (imho) to the sort of culture that would laugh off books as useless wastes of time. It does seem to be a lot more fun to r/w/. posts...:)
Re:We don't burn books, we delete them
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Who gets to decide what I can't read? Who is going to get that kind of power? "Who watches the watchers?"
The government decides you can't read child pornography. I guess the people are supposed to watch them.
Re:Why? [bradbury boring?]
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I agree that Bradbury's books tend to be easy to put down and never pick up again. I actually went through that after reading the first couple pages of F451. I'm glad that I did get to read the whole thing though. Maybe this has something to do with the fact that Bradbury has spent a lot of time writing short stories.
I don't think it is a good idea to compare books with other forms of media. A book must be taken as a whole, it is a work of art in itself, it should not be cut and spliced the way CNN clips are in order to keep you watching their show. In a sense the emergence of the internet/tv/multi-media streams of information are accomplishing exactly what Bradbury's future government wanted. Why read a book when you can see the movie? I agree that we still have *choice*, but I have noticed that the library hours are getting shorter and shorter. Are they even open on Sunday anymore?
Re:We don't burn books, we delete them
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Does anyone know where I can find the recipe to manufacture weapons grade plutonium? I bet the government wants to burn that book too!
There has to be a line drawn on what information should be available. My thoughts would lend themselves to a policy in which everything that is not a national security threat should be allowed, but then again I think posession of LSD is considered as intent to overthrow the government.
Books don't have a right not to burn when heated to 451 degrees farenheit?
What sort of society is this? What if instead of burning books the government replaced books with those that they deemed you should read. Would the moral of Bradbury's story still apply? Is this not exactly what internet censorship does?
Re:Check out the movie also
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one of the points of the book was that movie watching does not allow the user to forge his own opinions, to think for himself. i agree with the previous poster who stated that watching the movie is blasphemous...
read the book, read it again, and again.. i picked it up for the fifth time last month, it was as amazing as ever.
nuclear war and then the re-establishment of the spoken story by a band of intellectuals [and guy montag] embarking on a mission to re-resurrect rome, this time doing it the right way!
I disagree that the internet could not work on a large scale within the anarchic philosophy. What we are seeing now with the advent of "idiot usage" is a divergent paths that the internet must take in order to rise to it's potential. A policied system which would clean up the internet based on some internationally agreed standard while the old wires still support the free exchange of information that was allowed for in the original design should be set up. the current architecture is, and will remain a bastion of democracy and anarchy. This should not be replaced by beurocracy and facism. There should, however, be an internetworked place where the techno-idiots can feel safe {Internet 2 maybe?}
I was able to make a directory tree windows explorer type app on unix using netscape_tree source from the Microline Widget library over at mozilla. It looks good, but there are a couple bugs that i can now look into because they seemed to be occuring in the Motif library.
One of the biggest problems I have had with Motif is the report that Purify generates. It is full of memory mismangement. I hope that this development will lead to a cleaning up of Motif's memory usage!
At the company I work for we have the same sort of setup using Gear software. I am unable to view porn sites, and many sites determined to be "crime" sites. Has anyone heard of of a way around these systems. I know that http_port can get you over a firewall, but can it get you over Gear?
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For example, DNS lookups and socket programming can be done simply by reading and writing files. the last time i looked at my middleware it was using file descriptors for socket connections. i wonder if their sockets only support "r" "r+" "w+".. options
i had to work on a pre-orbix corba compliant orb that came out of lucent/bell labs... it was pretty cool, but they really hyped it and it got squashed. it was designed for smart people with no care for the java-programmer-types... who knows, maybe they'll have more luck with inferno.
yeah, leave it to the techies over at bell labs to ruin a great os by tying it to a ridiculous gui... how 'bout those smiley faces though :)
finally, an operating system that will work with my legos... this is a pivotal turning point in cad development
Often the Riemann Hypothesis is called Artin's conjecture. Personally I think Riemann's name is overused in mathematical circles. Emil Artin was a much better clavichord player after all...
so /. is into pre-hollywood release advertising.. they did make it big ;)
Hey Guy Montag,
:(. You wouldn't happen to know of a mirror?
I thought about you while I was rereading F451 last month. Unfortunatley my company has censored DC2600 as a crime/hacking site
I personally spent some time scouring the internet for good songs that would keep me busy while my boss found more work for me. There were times that I realized I was doing something illegal, but the amount of time I spent doing it, and the quality of the mp3's I was able to get made it nothing more than a advertisement to go out and buy the CD. Not to mention the ILOVEYOU virus which would have destroyed all your mp3's if you were stupid enough to open the vbs attachment.
As the fireman's arguement was to protect the people fro the confusion that the books were causing. the distraught question that they would bring into their MUD minds, that was the reason for burning them.
but certainly I don't mind laughing at the 300,000+ Napster users named by Metallica...
Drudge reported sarcasticaly that all 300,000 Napster users proceeded to register new accounts as soon as they realized their's were deleted. I don't know how long it takes to register for a napster account and develop their form of karma, but in terms of lost man hours *nobody* should be laughing!
When people take the time to write a post, even if it may seem 'redundant' to one moderator, we should respect that and at least let it slide with a score of 1.
What about a democratic system in which all members can use there karma to give or take karma away from others' posts? This would be a democratic form of censorship, which may make us normal users who feel our power being stripped feel better. Would it be any better than censorship?
Free speech rarely ever protects ``good'' speech.
/. posts... :)
The book burning in F451 was more about a change in culture that allowed for censorship than censorship itself. The free speech afforded through the internet contributes (imho) to the sort of culture that would laugh off books as useless wastes of time. It does seem to be a lot more fun to r/w
Who gets to decide what I can't read? Who is going to get that kind of power? "Who watches the watchers?"
The government decides you can't read child pornography. I guess the people are supposed to watch them.
I agree that Bradbury's books tend to be easy to put down and never pick up again. I actually went through that after reading the first couple pages of F451. I'm glad that I did get to read the whole thing though. Maybe this has something to do with the fact that Bradbury has spent a lot of time writing short stories.
I don't think it is a good idea to compare books with other forms of media. A book must be taken as a whole, it is a work of art in itself, it should not be cut and spliced the way CNN clips are in order to keep you watching their show. In a sense the emergence of the internet/tv/multi-media streams of information are accomplishing exactly what Bradbury's future government wanted. Why read a book when you can see the movie? I agree that we still have *choice*, but I have noticed that the library hours are getting shorter and shorter. Are they even open on Sunday anymore?
Does anyone know where I can find the recipe to manufacture weapons grade plutonium? I bet the government wants to burn that book too!
There has to be a line drawn on what information should be available. My thoughts would lend themselves to a policy in which everything that is not a national security threat should be allowed, but then again I think posession of LSD is considered as intent to overthrow the government.
Books don't have a right not to burn when heated to 451 degrees farenheit?
What sort of society is this? What if instead of burning books the government replaced books with those that they deemed you should read. Would the moral of Bradbury's story still apply? Is this not exactly what internet censorship does?
one of the points of the book was that movie watching does not allow the user to forge his own opinions, to think for himself. i agree with the previous poster who stated that watching the movie is blasphemous...
read the book, read it again, and again.. i picked it up for the fifth time last month, it was as amazing as ever.
nuclear war and then the re-establishment of the spoken story by a band of intellectuals [and guy montag] embarking on a mission to re-resurrect rome, this time doing it the right way!
"simplify, simplify, simplify" - thoreau RISC chips, OpenBSD, gnu compiler... now that's tight!
I disagree that the internet could not work on a large scale within the anarchic philosophy. What we are seeing now with the advent of "idiot usage" is a divergent paths that the internet must take in order to rise to it's potential. A policied system which would clean up the internet based on some internationally agreed standard while the old wires still support the free exchange of information that was allowed for in the original design should be set up. the current architecture is, and will remain a bastion of democracy and anarchy. This should not be replaced by beurocracy and facism. There should, however, be an internetworked place where the techno-idiots can feel safe {Internet 2 maybe?}
I was able to make a directory tree windows explorer type app on unix using netscape_tree source from the Microline Widget library over at mozilla. It looks good, but there are a couple bugs that i can now look into because they seemed to be occuring in the Motif library.
One of the biggest problems I have had with Motif is the report that Purify generates. It is full of memory mismangement. I hope that this development will lead to a cleaning up of Motif's memory usage!
At the company I work for we have the same sort of setup using Gear software. I am unable to view porn sites, and many sites determined to be "crime" sites. Has anyone heard of of a way around these systems. I know that http_port can get you over a firewall, but can it get you over Gear?