Anybody gotten the mlx driver to compile? I spent a few unsuccessful hours with it the other night. There were problems in the header files some of which I fixed and others I have not the faintest idea how to (knowing 0 OpenGL)
I've seen emails from nVidia representatives too, and I have to agree with Brian - wait 2 weeks and read the web site - and just as a hint, it's not a good idea to base purchasing decisions upon pure speculation which is all we have right now.
From what I've read in those emails, nVidia are committed to decent Linux support, and in 2 weeks we'll be getting the full story.
Furthermore, stop quibbling over binary-only versus open source. Everybody _knows_ open source is better, but alienating a company that provides binary-only (like 3dfx currently do) is not going to persuade them to make their drivers open source - in fact, they may simply choose to just remove the binary-only support for the minority platforms and then everyone is screwed. Binary-only support is better than no support at all.
Of course, no support at all means nobody in our minority group will be purchasing their hardware which will make a minor dint in their pockets. But many companies can take that especially if it means less hassles.
Really? I actually run MacOS, so who is the person with the post full of inaccurate statements now? If you really think that my analysis of the article is that inaccurate, how come you do not point out any flaws in it? If it is that full, surely you can come up with at least one item that you believe is wrong, and present an argument as to why you believe so backed up with some hard data. All I, and everyone else, can see are two quite general statements with no solid foundations in anything.
I reply to this post because it scores above the threshold - I can only guess that the rest are BSD fanatics screaming blue murder at me for daring to point out flaws in their precious evangelical article. They then wonder why they don't get much press, when they treat critics with an IQ above their uptime, of the little press they do get with such scorn and the typical BSD fanatic's baseless condescending commentary.
If you are not interested in intelligent debate and discussion, then do not bother replying in the first place.
Back to the article, I was interested to read that the film "The Matrix" used BSD systems. It's great to see SFX companies doing wonderful stuff with Unix systems, breaking the traditional NT/Lightwave/3DS mindset that was becoming all too popular earlier this decade.
Looking at the small picture it's not so much an advancement in creation theory proofs, as much as a step or two backwards for the other theories. Looking at the big picture, when all others step back and one remains still, who's the volunteer in front?
Unfortunately for many scientists, there's one popular formation theory that is not invalidated by this discovery. But they won't be talking about that one as this is further proof that it may be more Law than theory.
I think that's an appropriate title for the article. Like typical *BSD fanatics, they are full of themselves and always use inaccurate stereotypes and heresay when talking about Linux.
For example, Linux kernel development is not quite as dissimilar as they would have you believe. There _is_ a core group of developers. The difference is, they don't go around sprouting how cool they are because they're core developers of some OS. They just quietly get on with the task at hand. Also, because the group is more informal, others not part of it feel more inclined to contribute as the test is the quality of the code, and not how much you wine & dine the core group.
When talking about flame wars, it's interesting to note that the *BSD crowd are inferring that it never happens to them. Wahahahahahahaha! Lets mention a few famous ones, shall we? NetBSD. OpenBSD - Theo de Raadt in particular. This is how far up themselves FreeBSD folks are, they "banish" people who helped make their OS what it is and refuse to acknowledge their existence like they are some form of lower-intelligence scum. The whole GNOME vs KDE saga has nothing on the flame fest that causes fractures in the BSD community!
They also say that *BSD users are older and more mature (where did they get those numbers from? Plucked from their tight arseholes again of course like all their other extremely general commentary) and try to infer that this somehow reflects on they quality of their operating system over that of "late teens and 20s". If you *BSD folks were any further up yourselves, you'd turn inside out! Age does not necessarily mean maturity, and quality depends a lot on skill. I'm not going to make the bold statement that Linux has more skilled programmers (like the BSD people would say in the reverse) - however applying basic statistics shows that due to the larger group of programmers working on Linux, there is a greater chance that there is more skilled input. Of course, people win lotteries so statistics is wrong sometimes;-)
Finally, there's the age old "BSD outperforms Linux by x times" debate, for which I won't say anything but the fact that the benchmarks speak for themselves. Oh, sure, FreeBSD might have a lower process switching latency on an 16Mhz 386, but who cares (apart from them)? Benchmarks of 15-year-old technology are useless in the real world today.
On a different note, however, I'd like to say that I would enjoy more BSD related stories because/. serves the open source community at large and not just one particular segment thereof. They might be selfish, pompous, stuck-up prats living in a kin-delusional fantasy world, but they're better than Microsoft.
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Anybody gotten the mlx driver to compile? I spent a few unsuccessful hours with it the other night. There were problems in the header files some of which I fixed and others I have not the faintest idea how to (knowing 0 OpenGL)
I've seen emails from nVidia representatives too, and I have to agree with Brian - wait 2 weeks and read the web site - and just as a hint, it's not a good idea to base purchasing decisions upon pure speculation which is all we have right now.
From what I've read in those emails, nVidia are committed to decent Linux support, and in 2 weeks we'll be getting the full story.
Furthermore, stop quibbling over binary-only versus open source. Everybody _knows_ open source is better, but alienating a company that provides binary-only (like 3dfx currently do) is not going to persuade them to make their drivers open source - in fact, they may simply choose to just remove the binary-only support for the minority platforms and then everyone is screwed. Binary-only support is better than no support at all.
Of course, no support at all means nobody in our minority group will be purchasing their hardware which will make a minor dint in their pockets. But many companies can take that especially if it means less hassles.
Really? I actually run MacOS, so who is the person with the post full of inaccurate statements now? If you really think that my analysis of the article is that inaccurate, how come you do not point out any flaws in it? If it is that full, surely you can come up with at least one item that you believe is wrong, and present an argument as to why you believe so backed up with some hard data. All I, and everyone else, can see are two quite general statements with no solid foundations in anything.
I reply to this post because it scores above the threshold - I can only guess that the rest are BSD fanatics screaming blue murder at me for daring to point out flaws in their precious evangelical article. They then wonder why they don't get much press, when they treat critics with an IQ above their uptime, of the little press they do get with such scorn and the typical BSD fanatic's baseless condescending commentary.
If you are not interested in intelligent debate and discussion, then do not bother replying in the first place.
Back to the article, I was interested to read that the film "The Matrix" used BSD systems. It's great to see SFX companies doing wonderful stuff with Unix systems, breaking the traditional NT/Lightwave/3DS mindset that was becoming all too popular earlier this decade.
I'll ignore your disrespect,
Looking at the small picture it's not so much an advancement in creation theory proofs, as much as a step or two backwards for the other theories.
Looking at the big picture, when all others step back and one remains still, who's the volunteer in front?
Cheers,
You did not remove
All the files from the internet
What a bunch of dorks
These lawyers suck cock
To think it is possible
Lets shoot them all now
Ass full of pork fat
Jiggles like a jello mould
Mouth is flapping too
Unfortunately for many scientists, there's one popular formation theory that is not invalidated by this discovery. But they won't be talking about that one as this is further proof that it may be more Law than theory.
Genesis 1:1
I think that's an appropriate title for the article. Like typical *BSD fanatics, they are full of themselves and always use inaccurate stereotypes and heresay when talking about Linux.
;-)
/. serves the open source community at large and not just one particular segment thereof. They might be selfish, pompous, stuck-up prats living in a kin-delusional fantasy world, but they're better than Microsoft.
For example, Linux kernel development is not quite as dissimilar as they would have you believe. There _is_ a core group of developers. The difference is, they don't go around sprouting how cool they are because they're core developers of some OS. They just quietly get on with the task at hand. Also, because the group is more informal, others not part of it feel more inclined to contribute as the test is the quality of the code, and not how much you wine & dine the core group.
When talking about flame wars, it's interesting to note that the *BSD crowd are inferring that it never happens to them. Wahahahahahahaha! Lets mention a few famous ones, shall we? NetBSD. OpenBSD - Theo de Raadt in particular. This is how far up themselves FreeBSD folks are, they "banish" people who helped make their OS what it is and refuse to acknowledge their existence like they are some form of lower-intelligence scum.
The whole GNOME vs KDE saga has nothing on the flame fest that causes fractures in the BSD community!
They also say that *BSD users are older and more mature (where did they get those numbers from? Plucked from their tight arseholes again of course like all their other extremely general commentary)
and try to infer that this somehow reflects on they quality of their operating system over that of "late teens and 20s". If you *BSD folks were any further up yourselves, you'd turn inside out!
Age does not necessarily mean maturity, and quality depends a lot on skill. I'm not going to make the bold statement that Linux has more skilled programmers (like the BSD people would say in the reverse) - however applying basic statistics shows that due to the larger group of programmers working on Linux, there is a greater chance that there is more skilled input. Of course, people win lotteries so statistics is wrong sometimes
Finally, there's the age old "BSD outperforms Linux by x times" debate, for which I won't say anything but the fact that the benchmarks speak for themselves. Oh, sure, FreeBSD might have a lower process switching latency on an 16Mhz 386, but who cares (apart from them)? Benchmarks of 15-year-old technology are useless in the real world today.
On a different note, however, I'd like to say that I would enjoy more BSD related stories because