In all fairness, there are some projects looking to provide some of HomeSite's uses, but there's nothing even coming close to Dreamweaver in the way of a GUI HTML editor.
There's always FrontPage for Linux...:)
Quanta isn't bad, but I guess that's more like HomeSite? I don't know, I don't use Windows HTML editors except for HoTMetal.
To my earlier point of what is missing, for admins I'm referring to good, solid GUI based apps for configuring the basic services. A small suite to deal with Apache, Sendmail, Inn, and other daemons. Today folks would rather tweak on the text files directly then use those few apps that are out there because they aren't nearly as good as they should be yet. Neither GUI environment today provides much for admins.
Well, Linuxconf and Webmin both look to take a shot at that, but these are not part of the GUI environment per se. Also, what about integration of the GUI with peripherals? PNP, while far from perfect on Windows, is something we need to strive for. I should be able to plug a printer into the parallel port and have the OS automagically detect that it is plugged in, and install/configure any software necessary to get that printer working.
Don't get me wrong...with CUPS it's *far* better than it has ever been...before that, you would need to edit scripts and configuration files and it was a mess... but if Linux is going to succeed on the desktop, it has to be easy enough so that Grandma can use it, but still be configurable enough that even the brightest Ubergeeks have a powerful enough system to tinker with.
It's a hard balance to strike, but Linux has the most potential to strike that balance than any other operating system I've seen.
Re:Information wants to be free - for the children
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It is time to let the companies off the leash, and have parents be responsible, not children.
What's that? Parents be responsible for their children? Shocking!!
That's exactly the problem, although you stated it somewhat incorrectly. People seem to want the GOVERNMENT to be responsible for raising their children, rather than they themselves be responsible.
Cases in point: the CDA, the V-Chip, government mandating that all cigarette lighters be childproof, the list goes on and on. While I think it's a good idea for parents to create a safe environment for their children, it is the PARENTS' responsibility to do so, not the government's. You can't expect to raise your kids in a bubble. It's a tough world out there, and you will at some point have to teach your kids that and you will have to teach them how to survive in that tough world. Otherwise, they will not be able to cope.
This is correct. I worked as a systems person in a telemarketing company once. This is very true in Michigan, because the management there was always paranoia about maintaining the DNC (Do Not Call) List. Backups of the DNC list were stored offsite, in fireproof, waterproof, etc. safe and in multiple locations. They weren't fooling around.
Re:Mozilla vs. Konq, development time...
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Konqueror, while a really cool web browser, has had just one goal: surf the web, on unix, on X, and on KDE2
While I agree with most of what you said, I have to take exception to this. Konqueror also has the goal of being a file manager and viewer, and an excellent one at that.
ALso, Mozilla is a lot more than a Web browser...it's also an e-mail client, HTML editor, news reader, chat client, instant messager, and so forth.
Basically, its like comparing vi with Emacs. Both are text editors, but they have vastly diffferent goals...same with Mozilla vs. Konqueror, but s/text editors/Web browsers.
It's the real deal. I read that very same column in 1984 where he said all those things about the Macintosh. I think he also said something about the Macintosh being a computer for dumb people in the same article, parodying Apple's ads about it being the computer "For the rest of us." I laughed my ass off then, and still laugh my ass off whenever I read drivel like that.
Re:a question for Jeremy Allison (or anybody)
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Use an automounter. Most modern distros (such as Mandrake 7.2, RedHat 6.x, etc.) include one.
Non root users can mount SMB shares all day long. The old smbmnt isn't needed...the new smbmount is called by the mount command... the automounter runs as root, so there is no need to give users a SUID binary.
RedHat Linux and all Linux distributions are free as in speech...read this page or this page to find out what the difference is... the developers of Linux (Linus Torvalds, Alan Cox, et al.) decided out of the goodness of their hearts to donate their software to the public. Companies like RedHat make money by selling things like technical support and services. Selling CDs is just to get into the door, really.
Now, I'm a full convert on the usefulness of Linux. I've got it running on two different platforms in my house right now. But, calling it an industry standard is probably taking that a bit too far.
Huh? Besides Linux being the most widely used Unix, it has the most market share of an Unix. Plus, all the commercial Unix vendors are adopting technology from the Linux community. Solaris, for instance, can run Linux binaries. HP, Sun, IBM, and other commercial Unix vendors have created the GNOME foundation and are adopting GNOME as their standard desktops.
Linux is NOT the standard desktop operating system, but it is THE standard Unix variant. And it is now #2 in server sales, next only to Windows NT/2000. Linux server sales, in fact, have eaten into Microsoft's server OS sales, making it a real challenger to Microsoft on the server platform. Get with it... Linux is becoming a powerhouse on the server!!
When I bought my new computer, I had
Windows, Internet Explorer, and Office pre-installed (for free)
Not quite. You paid for it, you just don't know you paid for it. Microsoft, whose biggest market is OEMs, like the company that made your computer, sold the software to your machine's manufacturer. The manufacturer's cost of the software, plus a small markup, is then built in to the cost of your machine. Had Windows and Office not been pre-installed on the machine, your machine would have been cheaper. By how much, I can't tell you, because Microsoft has a different deal with each OEM based on sales volume.
RedHat does not develop Linux. For the most part, Linux is developed by a worldwide team of volunteer programmers scattered across the continents and the 'Net. RedHat *does* provide some funding for open source projects and actually employs a few of those developers (including Alan Cox), but so does Corel (they have been funding wine development), Caldera (I forget what they fund), and other companies that don't even make a Linux distro like IBM, Compaq, and others. Nobody is "stealing" RedHat's work because all the work they and other companies do on Linux and other open source software is licensed under an open source license like the GPL. See the Open Source Initiative's website for more information on the open source licenses like the GPL. There is a difference between free as in speech vs. free as in beer. Linux is free as in speech.
By your own analogy with the painting, I *could* deduct the *cost* of developing the open source software if I dontated to FSF, for instance. If I bought hardware solely for that purpose, for instance, or if I purchased a commercial compiler, development tools, or whatever, I could deduct that.
As part of their training, DEA agents take courses in Constitutional Law and proper arrest, search, and seizure. They are well-acquainted with what constitutes probable cause or reasonable suspicion. Do you know the difference? Do you know what a "Terry" stop is? They do. If anyone is going to be careful not to run afoul of Supreme Court case precedent, it's the feds
Now I know why this post was moderated as "funny".
I sincerely hope you're kidding. Because this is ridiculous. Sure, the feds probably do receive this training, I wouldn't doubt it. But I'll bet the average DEA agent is certainly no lawyer. I don't doubt that will try not to run afoul of Supreme Court precedent, that's not the issue.
The issue is that there *is* no Supreme Court precedent regarding this. This doesn't at all sound Constitutional on the surface, but then again, privacy is not a guaranteed constitutional right, only protection from unwarranted searches and seizures.
The difference is that, thanks to your favourite buddies that used to be in the White House, what constitutes probable cause is a lot looser, and law enforcement officials don't need a warrant for lots of things anymore, they only need probably cause. This is all part of the attempt to appear "tough on crime." Unfortunately, they are being tough on your constitutional rights.
The thing is, the major energy and oil companies don't want any of this. A major car company figures out a way to have a car run at 150 miles per gallon. The U.S. Government says, No way, buddy!
I work for a major car company (GM) and I work in a position that is tightly coupled with the Vehicle Development Process (VDP). And I'm telling you now that GM will eventually have regular production gas/electric hybrids that get 150 miles per gallon! (The last prototype I saw gets around 90, so 150 is not far off)
Then there is the Toyota Prius, which currently gets 70 MPG, and a representative of Toyota claimed to me at the 2001 North American International Auto Show that next year, the vehicle will get 150 MPG.
Maybe your scenario was more on-mark 5 or so years ago, but with the rising fuel costs and OPEC's recent production cuts, believe me, the government is in our court on this one.
It used to be that they could call us and we'd setup everything (including handling work with the telco),
That's how it still is, at least with my ISP. I've had Telocity for about a year now and I'm in Michigan, so my telco is Ameritech. Just recently a friend of mine signed through the same service and his installation went the same way.
I don't know about other areas of the country, and IANAL, but it does sound like you've got yourself a nice big lawsuit given enough money to fight them. IMHO, there is definitely some breaking of the antitrust laws here...big time.
When it comes to running servers/services, I called and asked, and after I explained what they were to the lady, she told me they had NO policy regarding anything like that, so go ahead. She may not have had any idea what she was talking about, but she did tell me it was OK
Dude, if she doesn't even know what you're talking about, the likelihood that she actually knows what the policy is in the first place is pretty slim. I checked with MediaONE, Time Warner and ComCast, all have policies against running any sort of server.
The main problem with sharing bandwidth, though, is that everyone in your neighborhood is behind a router with you... There's no security. Services and protocols that are normally not accessible via the Internet because they aren't routeable (Netbios, for one) are available to everyone in your neighborhood. This is particularly a problem if you run Windows and do not use a firewall (90+% of all cablemodem subscribers run Windows and have no firewall)
I've also heard that with some cablemodem services, they put you behind NAT and don't give you a real IP. I don't know which ones do that, or really if they do that, but that's what a guy who used to install for Comcast told me they did.
Speakeasy, and other companies like it, like my service provider, Telocity, do not actually provide the DSL service. Speakeasy goes through Covad, Telocity through Rythms. Basically, all the DSL service is provided by only a handful of companies. We had NorthPoint until recently, now there's only Covad and Rythms, not counting the ILECs (Ameritech, Verizon, whatever)...
If Rythms and Covad fold, my only alternative would be to go through Ameritech. Cable modems just started being available in my area, by I don't like the idea of being behind a router with 30 of my closest neighbors.
That makes for 10,000,000,000 bytes
Quite possible to put all that in a database.
And serve it from where? Because, quite honestly, even with a T1 line, ~10 GB is going to take an AWFUL long time to download, not to mention, it would fill up one of my hard drives.:)
The problem is *serving* it. I like the guy who had the DNS idea. It's BEAUTIFUL. Just like the DeCSS code.:) AOL couldn't do a damn thing to stop it, either.:)
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Say screw it and write in Object Pascal?
Get Konqueror It rocks!
That's not coming until the NEXT version... :)
In all fairness, there are some projects looking to provide some of HomeSite's uses, but there's nothing even coming close to Dreamweaver in the way of a GUI HTML editor.
:)
There's always FrontPage for Linux...
Quanta isn't bad, but I guess that's more like HomeSite? I don't know, I don't use Windows HTML editors except for HoTMetal.
To my earlier point of what is missing, for admins I'm referring to good, solid GUI based apps for configuring the basic services. A small suite to deal with Apache, Sendmail, Inn, and other daemons. Today folks would rather tweak on the text files directly then use those few apps that are out there because they aren't nearly as good as they should be yet. Neither GUI environment today provides much for admins.
Well, Linuxconf and Webmin both look to take a shot at that, but these are not part of the GUI environment per se. Also, what about integration of the GUI with peripherals? PNP, while far from perfect on Windows, is something we need to strive for. I should be able to plug a printer into the parallel port and have the OS automagically detect that it is plugged in, and install/configure any software necessary to get that printer working.
Don't get me wrong...with CUPS it's *far* better than it has ever been...before that, you would need to edit scripts and configuration files and it was a mess... but if Linux is going to succeed on the desktop, it has to be easy enough so that Grandma can use it, but still be configurable enough that even the brightest Ubergeeks have a powerful enough system to tinker with.
It's a hard balance to strike, but Linux has the most potential to strike that balance than any other operating system I've seen.
It is time to let the companies off the leash, and have parents be responsible, not children.
What's that? Parents be responsible for their children? Shocking!!
That's exactly the problem, although you stated it somewhat incorrectly. People seem to want the GOVERNMENT to be responsible for raising their children, rather than they themselves be responsible.
Cases in point: the CDA, the V-Chip, government mandating that all cigarette lighters be childproof, the list goes on and on. While I think it's a good idea for parents to create a safe environment for their children, it is the PARENTS' responsibility to do so, not the government's. You can't expect to raise your kids in a bubble. It's a tough world out there, and you will at some point have to teach your kids that and you will have to teach them how to survive in that tough world. Otherwise, they will not be able to cope.
Very nice, if it works, doesn't cost some ludicrous amount to manufacture, and doesn't explode when you drop it
:)
:) (Shut up all you body builders! :)
Yeah...that federal building in Oklahoma City wasn't an ANFOS...it was a guy who dropped an early fuel cell PDA!
Actually, the other limitation would be SIZE...nobody wants a PDA that weighs 300 pounds, etiher.
This is correct. I worked as a systems person in a telemarketing company once. This is very true in Michigan, because the management there was always paranoia about maintaining the DNC (Do Not Call) List. Backups of the DNC list were stored offsite, in fireproof, waterproof, etc. safe and in multiple locations. They weren't fooling around.
Konqueror, while a really cool web browser, has had just one goal: surf the web, on unix, on X, and on KDE2
While I agree with most of what you said, I have to take exception to this. Konqueror also has the goal of being a file manager and viewer, and an excellent one at that.
ALso, Mozilla is a lot more than a Web browser...it's also an e-mail client, HTML editor, news reader, chat client, instant messager, and so forth.
Basically, its like comparing vi with Emacs. Both are text editors, but they have vastly diffferent goals...same with Mozilla vs. Konqueror, but s/text editors/Web browsers.
It's the real deal. I read that very same column in 1984 where he said all those things about the Macintosh. I think he also said something about the Macintosh being a computer for dumb people in the same article, parodying Apple's ads about it being the computer "For the rest of us." I laughed my ass off then, and still laugh my ass off whenever I read drivel like that.
Use an automounter. Most modern distros (such as Mandrake 7.2, RedHat 6.x, etc.) include one.
... the automounter runs as root, so there is no need to give users a SUID binary.
Non root users can mount SMB shares all day long. The old smbmnt isn't needed...the new smbmount is called by the mount command
RedHat Linux and all Linux distributions are free as in speech...read this page or this page to find out what the difference is... the developers of Linux (Linus Torvalds, Alan Cox, et al.) decided out of the goodness of their hearts to donate their software to the public. Companies like RedHat make money by selling things like technical support and services. Selling CDs is just to get into the door, really.
Now, I'm a full convert on the usefulness of Linux. I've got it running on two different platforms in my house right now. But, calling it an industry standard is probably taking that a bit too far.
... Linux is becoming a powerhouse on the server!!
Huh? Besides Linux being the most widely used Unix, it has the most market share of an Unix. Plus, all the commercial Unix vendors are adopting technology from the Linux community. Solaris, for instance, can run Linux binaries. HP, Sun, IBM, and other commercial Unix vendors have created the GNOME foundation and are adopting GNOME as their standard desktops.
Linux is NOT the standard desktop operating system, but it is THE standard Unix variant. And it is now #2 in server sales, next only to Windows NT/2000. Linux server sales, in fact, have eaten into Microsoft's server OS sales, making it a real challenger to Microsoft on the server platform. Get with it
Ok, I'll bite. (Yes, I know I'm a sucker)
When I bought my new computer, I had
Windows, Internet Explorer, and Office pre-installed (for free)
Not quite. You paid for it, you just don't know you paid for it. Microsoft, whose biggest market is OEMs, like the company that made your computer, sold the software to your machine's manufacturer. The manufacturer's cost of the software, plus a small markup, is then built in to the cost of your machine. Had Windows and Office not been pre-installed on the machine, your machine would have been cheaper. By how much, I can't tell you, because Microsoft has a different deal with each OEM based on sales volume.
RedHat does not develop Linux. For the most part, Linux is developed by a worldwide team of volunteer programmers scattered across the continents and the 'Net. RedHat *does* provide some funding for open source projects and actually employs a few of those developers (including Alan Cox), but so does Corel (they have been funding wine development), Caldera (I forget what they fund), and other companies that don't even make a Linux distro like IBM, Compaq, and others. Nobody is "stealing" RedHat's work because all the work they and other companies do on Linux and other open source software is licensed under an open source license like the GPL. See the Open Source Initiative's website for more information on the open source licenses like the GPL. There is a difference between free as in speech vs. free as in beer. Linux is free as in speech.
Ahhh...this is where all this started. Makes sense now. :)
By your own analogy with the painting, I *could* deduct the *cost* of developing the open source software if I dontated to FSF, for instance. If I bought hardware solely for that purpose, for instance, or if I purchased a commercial compiler, development tools, or whatever, I could deduct that.
Correct?
As part of their training, DEA agents take courses in Constitutional Law and proper arrest, search, and seizure. They are well-acquainted with what constitutes probable cause or reasonable suspicion. Do you know the difference? Do you know what a "Terry" stop is? They do. If anyone is going to be careful not to run afoul of Supreme Court case precedent, it's the feds
Now I know why this post was moderated as "funny".
I sincerely hope you're kidding. Because this is ridiculous. Sure, the feds probably do receive this training, I wouldn't doubt it. But I'll bet the average DEA agent is certainly no lawyer. I don't doubt that will try not to run afoul of Supreme Court precedent, that's not the issue.
The issue is that there *is* no Supreme Court precedent regarding this. This doesn't at all sound Constitutional on the surface, but then again, privacy is not a guaranteed constitutional right, only protection from unwarranted searches and seizures.
The difference is that, thanks to your favourite buddies that used to be in the White House, what constitutes probable cause is a lot looser, and law enforcement officials don't need a warrant for lots of things anymore, they only need probably cause. This is all part of the attempt to appear "tough on crime." Unfortunately, they are being tough on your constitutional rights.
The thing is, the major energy and oil companies don't want any of this. A major car company figures out a way to have a car run at 150 miles per gallon. The U.S. Government says, No way, buddy!
I work for a major car company (GM) and I work in a position that is tightly coupled with the Vehicle Development Process (VDP). And I'm telling you now that GM will eventually have regular production gas/electric hybrids that get 150 miles per gallon! (The last prototype I saw gets around 90, so 150 is not far off)
Then there is the Toyota Prius, which currently gets 70 MPG, and a representative of Toyota claimed to me at the 2001 North American International Auto Show that next year, the vehicle will get 150 MPG.
Maybe your scenario was more on-mark 5 or so years ago, but with the rising fuel costs and OPEC's recent production cuts, believe me, the government is in our court on this one.
There's a catch to those low prices. It's called customer service, or specifically, lack thereof.
:)
As the former Baby Bells have gotten larger, customer service has gone down the toilet. Just ask *any* long-time Ameritech customer.
It used to be that they could call us and we'd setup everything (including handling work with the telco),
That's how it still is, at least with my ISP. I've had Telocity for about a year now and I'm in Michigan, so my telco is Ameritech. Just recently a friend of mine signed through the same service and his installation went the same way.
I don't know about other areas of the country, and IANAL, but it does sound like you've got yourself a nice big lawsuit given enough money to fight them. IMHO, there is definitely some breaking of the antitrust laws here...big time.
When it comes to running servers/services, I called and asked, and after I explained what they were to the lady, she told me they had NO policy regarding anything like that, so go ahead. She may not have had any idea what she was talking about, but she did tell me it was OK
Dude, if she doesn't even know what you're talking about, the likelihood that she actually knows what the policy is in the first place is pretty slim. I checked with MediaONE, Time Warner and ComCast, all have policies against running any sort of server.
The main problem with sharing bandwidth, though, is that everyone in your neighborhood is behind a router with you... There's no security. Services and protocols that are normally not accessible via the Internet because they aren't routeable (Netbios, for one) are available to everyone in your neighborhood. This is particularly a problem if you run Windows and do not use a firewall (90+% of all cablemodem subscribers run Windows and have no firewall)
I've also heard that with some cablemodem services, they put you behind NAT and don't give you a real IP. I don't know which ones do that, or really if they do that, but that's what a guy who used to install for Comcast told me they did.
Speakeasy, and other companies like it, like my service provider, Telocity, do not actually provide the DSL service. Speakeasy goes through Covad, Telocity through Rythms. Basically, all the DSL service is provided by only a handful of companies. We had NorthPoint until recently, now there's only Covad and Rythms, not counting the ILECs (Ameritech, Verizon, whatever)...
If Rythms and Covad fold, my only alternative would be to go through Ameritech. Cable modems just started being available in my area, by I don't like the idea of being behind a router with 30 of my closest neighbors.
MS had plenty of warning. Obviously. Because it's fixed in IE5.01 SP2. Duh. :)
That makes for 10,000,000,000 bytes
:)
:) AOL couldn't do a damn thing to stop it, either. :)
Quite possible to put all that in a database.
And serve it from where? Because, quite honestly, even with a T1 line, ~10 GB is going to take an AWFUL long time to download, not to mention, it would fill up one of my hard drives.
The problem is *serving* it. I like the guy who had the DNS idea. It's BEAUTIFUL. Just like the DeCSS code.
You were posting threats? Isn't that illegal? :)
:) Can you trust *any* site on the open Internet?
:)
What's a trusted site? microsoft.net?
While perhaps all virus writers aren't that sophisticated, that doesn't mean that aren't any that *are*.