I'm not a scholastic etymologist, but my understanding is that "OK" became shorthand for the phrase "all's correct". In that way, it was a bastardization from the very beginning, but never ever came from "okay" -- quite the other way around.
Hmmm. That's a really interesting point. I am a grammar troll (I get jollies by pointing out grammar mistakes in forums, less so on/. than other places), but there are a handful of modern grammatical and spelling changes that I like and use. The two most notable are "thru" which I prefer to "through", and "nite" which I prefer to "night".
Why? I don't know, I guess it's arbitrary. I don't insist on modernizing other similarly spelled words, but those two I like.
It's fine for you to curse my writing all thru the nite, if you want.
Seriously. Look up the text of her conversational speaking; it's completely incoherent. In her defense, even though hers is worse than average, normal conversational speaking doesn't usually translate very well to the written word.
You blame Kid Rock? Not me. I blame Richard Nixon and the Southern Strategy. For fifty years (two full generations) we have had a coordinated top-down campaign from national leaders to convince people that being smart is bad (cf. "East-coast intellectuals", etc.)
So in my opinion, Kid Rock is the symptom, but Republicans are the disease.
Yeah, the lack of USB port makes me laugh and cringe. So, uh, Apple put some kind of port on the thing, but it's a port that only works with their magical keyboard? (Do I understand that correctly?) This, after it was Apple that got the market to accept USB in the first place? It's been a long decade for Apple, I guess.
But hey, I'm no longer in Apple's target market, so my biatching isn't really important.
To be fair, the geeks aren't saying it won't sell well, they're saying it sucks, or something like that. The latter is an opinion which good sales does not contradict.
Word. The touchpad is the worst thing about my AspireOne. The second worse is the wireless card, which from time to time dies, and requires not only a reboot, but I have to unplug it and pull the battery. (For a while, I had Linux/Windows dual boot, and the wireless card would still be dead even if I booted into a different OS, so it was definitely the hardware.) Still, dollar-for-dollar this AspireOne is definitely the best-value computer hardware I've ever bought, by far. (I paid $300 at Costco for the ZG5 model.)
Mitigating circumstance. That's exactly what I'm talking about. How the hell are we still disagreeing on this? You get a lower sentence (sometimes) based on the circumstances of the crime, and one relevant circumstance is the character of the victim. That's my only point, and it's not controversial, and everyone keeps saying the same thing. We're all on the same page, everyone agrees with my original point: yes, it's a less serious offense to kill a mob boss than a regular joe. We all agree. We all agree. We all agree.
You know what, I apologize for what I just said. You are right, because you agreed with me: as you correctly say, the context of the crime does in fact sometimes include the lifestyle (or other characteristics) of the victim. You are right, as I was. Thank you for agreeing with me. Peace out.
Word up. I'm with you. These devices are fine if people want to buy them, but I'm not willing to deal with the shenanigans. (Actually, my honest opinion is that it's not fine, people making those choices are making bad choices in my eyes, and their bad decisions have market effects on the rest of us.)
It's a better world when free and proprietary software compete.
This is a philosophical argument, not a practical one, but I'd say that it's EVEN BETTER when free software competes with other free software. Similarly, having China to compete with the US is okay, but having a free China (say, like, an India or something) compete with the US would be even better. I guess I'm just a freedom lover. It's an ideology really.
What I agreed to was that criminal sentencing should (as it does) take into account the context of the crime, including mitigating circumstances. If you murder a mob boss, that is a lesser crime than if you murder a nice little old lady. I'm not sure how you get from there to what you said. I can't even figure out what kind of notion, taken to an unreasonable extreme, would result in what you said. Your reply is non-sequitur and nonsensical, making it exceedingly difficult to respond to, because my response is limited by reason.
I totally agree. To make your point more clear, if the organization's holy texts are supported by evidence, then it isn't a religion, it's SCIENCE. Evidence is the essential difference between scientific beliefs and non-scientific beliefs.
No, you sound jealous because you spend so much time caring about something that doesn't affect you. Some other guy out there is doing something, and he thinks he's doing it well, and his peers think he's doing it well, and he's making money.
You don't think he's doing it well, which is fine, but at that point you got all worked up over it. Where does the energy come from, to get all worked up? Why would you even bother to care?
Incidentally, I completely agree, I think much or most of the 'art' in question is horrendous, really horrendous. But I don't give a crap, which is why I (literally) can't be bothered to care.
So, I'm postulating that the reason you care is that you are actually jealous of the guy doing the thing getting the respect you wish you had and the money you wish you had. That's my point.
But hey, I got modded Troll for that, so what the hell do I know.
China at once has a leg up and a leg down on the rest of the world. On the one hand, because religion is suppressed, science is the remaining world view available to Chinese citizens. On the other hand, science thrives with open exchange of ideas, and while China might (more or less) have that for scientific topics, it certainly doesn't have it for all topics.
I, for one, do not welcome our new Chinese overlords. If I had to choose between science and freedom, it would be difficult, but I'd go for freedom.
Slashdot Mirror
I'm not a scholastic etymologist, but my understanding is that "OK" became shorthand for the phrase "all's correct". In that way, it was a bastardization from the very beginning, but never ever came from "okay" -- quite the other way around.
Hmmm. That's a really interesting point. I am a grammar troll (I get jollies by pointing out grammar mistakes in forums, less so on /. than other places), but there are a handful of modern grammatical and spelling changes that I like and use. The two most notable are "thru" which I prefer to "through", and "nite" which I prefer to "night".
Why? I don't know, I guess it's arbitrary. I don't insist on modernizing other similarly spelled words, but those two I like.
It's fine for you to curse my writing all thru the nite, if you want.
Sarah Palin, anyone?
Seriously. Look up the text of her conversational speaking; it's completely incoherent. In her defense, even though hers is worse than average, normal conversational speaking doesn't usually translate very well to the written word.
You blame Kid Rock? Not me. I blame Richard Nixon and the Southern Strategy. For fifty years (two full generations) we have had a coordinated top-down campaign from national leaders to convince people that being smart is bad (cf. "East-coast intellectuals", etc.)
So in my opinion, Kid Rock is the symptom, but Republicans are the disease.
I proffer "far too complex to blame on any single identifiable cause, or perhaps any well-known causes at all". How about you?
Yeah, the lack of USB port makes me laugh and cringe. So, uh, Apple put some kind of port on the thing, but it's a port that only works with their magical keyboard? (Do I understand that correctly?) This, after it was Apple that got the market to accept USB in the first place? It's been a long decade for Apple, I guess.
But hey, I'm no longer in Apple's target market, so my biatching isn't really important.
Uh huh. Well it doesn't mean that, so I guess that's that.
To be fair, the geeks aren't saying it won't sell well, they're saying it sucks, or something like that. The latter is an opinion which good sales does not contradict.
Get one for your wife. She'll like it.
Word. The touchpad is the worst thing about my AspireOne. The second worse is the wireless card, which from time to time dies, and requires not only a reboot, but I have to unplug it and pull the battery. (For a while, I had Linux/Windows dual boot, and the wireless card would still be dead even if I booted into a different OS, so it was definitely the hardware.) Still, dollar-for-dollar this AspireOne is definitely the best-value computer hardware I've ever bought, by far. (I paid $300 at Costco for the ZG5 model.)
Mitigating circumstance. That's exactly what I'm talking about. How the hell are we still disagreeing on this? You get a lower sentence (sometimes) based on the circumstances of the crime, and one relevant circumstance is the character of the victim. That's my only point, and it's not controversial, and everyone keeps saying the same thing. We're all on the same page, everyone agrees with my original point: yes, it's a less serious offense to kill a mob boss than a regular joe. We all agree. We all agree. We all agree.
You know what, I apologize for what I just said. You are right, because you agreed with me: as you correctly say, the context of the crime does in fact sometimes include the lifestyle (or other characteristics) of the victim. You are right, as I was. Thank you for agreeing with me. Peace out.
You are obviously well versed in criminal law. Which law school did you graduate from?
By the way, you're wrong. I'll leave it at that.
Word up. I'm with you. These devices are fine if people want to buy them, but I'm not willing to deal with the shenanigans. (Actually, my honest opinion is that it's not fine, people making those choices are making bad choices in my eyes, and their bad decisions have market effects on the rest of us.)
It's a better world when free and proprietary software compete.
This is a philosophical argument, not a practical one, but I'd say that it's EVEN BETTER when free software competes with other free software. Similarly, having China to compete with the US is okay, but having a free China (say, like, an India or something) compete with the US would be even better. I guess I'm just a freedom lover. It's an ideology really.
Do you conflate the Kindle with a tablet computer?
I don't. Anybody else?
What I agreed to was that criminal sentencing should (as it does) take into account the context of the crime, including mitigating circumstances. If you murder a mob boss, that is a lesser crime than if you murder a nice little old lady. I'm not sure how you get from there to what you said. I can't even figure out what kind of notion, taken to an unreasonable extreme, would result in what you said. Your reply is non-sequitur and nonsensical, making it exceedingly difficult to respond to, because my response is limited by reason.
Are you saying that you have a netbook that can install third-party apps AND can get apps from the App Store? Wow, what netbook is that?
Hah! You are hilarious. Well played old chap.
Uh, no. If you start a cult and force members to kill people, then you go to jail (if we can catch you).
The one's we can tell our children about.
The good guys not the bad guys.
They are victims and Scientology is and always will be a cult
Oops you made a mistake, here let me correct it for you.
The one's we can tell our children about.
The good guy's not the bad guy's.
They are victim's and S'cientology is and alway's will be a cul't
I totally agree. To make your point more clear, if the organization's holy texts are supported by evidence, then it isn't a religion, it's SCIENCE. Evidence is the essential difference between scientific beliefs and non-scientific beliefs.
Fight the good fight.
Fuck Scientology.
Seriously... *of course* yes.
(I wasn't the AC who responded before.)
No, you sound jealous because you spend so much time caring about something that doesn't affect you. Some other guy out there is doing something, and he thinks he's doing it well, and his peers think he's doing it well, and he's making money.
You don't think he's doing it well, which is fine, but at that point you got all worked up over it. Where does the energy come from, to get all worked up? Why would you even bother to care?
Incidentally, I completely agree, I think much or most of the 'art' in question is horrendous, really horrendous. But I don't give a crap, which is why I (literally) can't be bothered to care.
So, I'm postulating that the reason you care is that you are actually jealous of the guy doing the thing getting the respect you wish you had and the money you wish you had. That's my point.
But hey, I got modded Troll for that, so what the hell do I know.
China at once has a leg up and a leg down on the rest of the world. On the one hand, because religion is suppressed, science is the remaining world view available to Chinese citizens. On the other hand, science thrives with open exchange of ideas, and while China might (more or less) have that for scientific topics, it certainly doesn't have it for all topics.
I, for one, do not welcome our new Chinese overlords. If I had to choose between science and freedom, it would be difficult, but I'd go for freedom.
Mmm hmm. Jealous much?