Their whole point was to monetize Java. They want money from the "4 billion devices that run Java" which they aren't getting. It's not the branding they are concerned with, that is taken care of via trademark, this is all about the use of Java apis.
Same here, they tried to implement a finger printing scheme in my highschool in the early 90's. Did not go over well at all, not because of parental objection but because of student objection. We had so many kids refuse to use the system that they had to remove it. Which is something odd to me because the school district that did this iris scanning said that all kids were scanned including highschoolers. I find it hard to believe that all of them went through with this without objection and coercion.
Then it would be a method of tracking the entry and exiting of the school and would have nothing to do with the school buses. They included kids that walk, drive, bike, take public transportation and the ones that get dropped off and picked up everyday. If that was their plan, they failed spectacularly.
Until they have an evolving database of biometric data. So your kids gets their iris scanned once a year from the time they start school to the time they finish school. Presumably, this is a 12 year period being k-12. So now this company has the data going back 12 years. There are many many many things that can go wrong here. As a database developer myself, I can assure you that data gets corrupted, data gets entered incorrectly etc.
So one day, the police say, hey we have this big database of iris scans just waiting for us to tap. They get their warrant, they compare iris scans and behold there is a possible match to this suspected bank robber. But here is the problem, the iris scan, taken when the kid was 6 years old, was accidentally labelled as being their 12th grade scan. So now, the cops go arrest this guy based on decades old data that is actually incorrect. Biometric data can't lie, so he must have done it and his alibi is false because, hey we have evidence to prove it was him.
The other problem here is the indoctrination issue. Forcing things like this on kids is indoctrinating them to believe that their private information can be taken from them at any time "for the good of the people". So that, when they are grown, they are so used to it and so okay with it, that the government can essentially throw the 4th amendment out because hey, it's for the good of the people.
Your google glass is accessible to you and to those you personally give permission to, there is no difference between that and your cell phone. And not everyone gets a woody when talking about glass.
Whether you think the program is good or bad is irrelevant. The issue at hand is, they did this to minors without permission from the parents or notification to them.
But seriously though, why would you need iris scans of kids? Their reasoning is to track the students getting on and off the buses, replacing the identification cards that they students carry now. Oh wait, ALL of the kids had the scans done. What about the kids that do not ride the buses, the ones that walk or have parents/guardians pick them up and drop them off everyday. Not only are they invading the privacy by collecting personal information from a minor without consent, but they are removing a valuable lesson in responsibility, as well as collecting this data for people that will not or do not use the system at all.
What's more, the article says that all of the students went through the program, but you're telling me that there were no students at all that objected? I find it hard to believe that there were high school students involved and no one said "no".
How are you going to react when the police come door to door installing biometric scanners and requiring you to scan in/out each time you leave the house, walk into/out of a building, get into/out of your car?
The court is treating each issue separately. Failure to abide by the order may not cause the judge to toss out the extradition just the seized evidence used in the case. I'm more interested to see whether the US DoJ abides by the ruling or ignores it. This is what will set a major precedent.
I would rather not. Though this does focus around 2 sets of douches, the more important piece is the battle between the US DoJ and NZ. This easily falls into YRO. Depending on what gets decided here, a precedent will be set for future cases that can and will affect people who store files remotely, fileshare, run public storage services etc. Not to mention, the rights violations in regards to search and seizure that the US and NZ police executed.
well, the judge has also ruled that the US has to give back the data and destroy whatever copies they made of it if it is not relevant to the case at hand. Now, will they abide by the ruling? Probably not as that court has no jurisdiction in the US. Will the US appeal the decision? Possibly. I want to see the US as well as the NZ police who executed the warrants taken to task for this. If you are going to catch a criminal and prosecute, fine, but you better do it right and by the book else you are nothing more than a criminal.
But it's not 1.0e9 tons hitting you in the fragmented instance. You're reasoning is that you explode the roid but all of the chunks still hit you when in reality, you would explode the roid and X chunks miss you entirely while Y chunks actually impact the atmosphere.
If you break a roid of 1.0e9 MT into 1000 smaller chunks, changing the trajectory of even 20% of the chunks such that they miss you entirely, you are reducing your impact mass by 200 million MT. That's a fairly significant number. This represents only what misses us entirely, not what would "skip" off the upper atmosphere.
Additionally, small pockets of gas/dust would settle and dissipate much faster than 1 very large pocket.
Also, you are removing the effect of the large mass impacting a single area creating either a tidal wave on an oceanic impact, or a massive dust cloud on a land impact.
In your experience, is it easier to push 1 large and heavy object than it is to break that object into smaller pieces and push them individually? I know in my experience, it's easier to pack all of my books into small boxes and carry them than it is to try to move all of my bookshelves at once.
It's this thing called physics and specifically, astrophysics. You break these roids up into smaller pieces. The gravity of nearby planets and the sun would have a far more drastic effect on the smaller pieces as well as the energy from the explosion modifying the trajectory of the pieces.
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You're absolutely incorrect. Iris patterns DO change over time. It has been proven.
Their whole point was to monetize Java. They want money from the "4 billion devices that run Java" which they aren't getting. It's not the branding they are concerned with, that is taken care of via trademark, this is all about the use of Java apis.
Pretty sure that wasn't aimed at me as I am against this kind of police state bullshit.
Still, ALL students just went along with it, c'mon, these are kids, somewhere, someone had to be defiant and rebellious.
could have sworn there was a guy named Neo...
Same here, they tried to implement a finger printing scheme in my highschool in the early 90's. Did not go over well at all, not because of parental objection but because of student objection. We had so many kids refuse to use the system that they had to remove it. Which is something odd to me because the school district that did this iris scanning said that all kids were scanned including highschoolers. I find it hard to believe that all of them went through with this without objection and coercion.
Then it would be a method of tracking the entry and exiting of the school and would have nothing to do with the school buses. They included kids that walk, drive, bike, take public transportation and the ones that get dropped off and picked up everyday. If that was their plan, they failed spectacularly.
The initial problem there is paying a school for a kid's attendance based on how many attend each day.
Database thinks, yep, Harris and Klebold are on the bus.
I see what you did there, H&K thank you for the free ad.
has nothing to do with whether a kid is going to shoot up a bus, it is purely for tracking purposes so they can monitor the kid's movements.
Until they have an evolving database of biometric data. So your kids gets their iris scanned once a year from the time they start school to the time they finish school. Presumably, this is a 12 year period being k-12. So now this company has the data going back 12 years. There are many many many things that can go wrong here. As a database developer myself, I can assure you that data gets corrupted, data gets entered incorrectly etc.
So one day, the police say, hey we have this big database of iris scans just waiting for us to tap. They get their warrant, they compare iris scans and behold there is a possible match to this suspected bank robber. But here is the problem, the iris scan, taken when the kid was 6 years old, was accidentally labelled as being their 12th grade scan. So now, the cops go arrest this guy based on decades old data that is actually incorrect. Biometric data can't lie, so he must have done it and his alibi is false because, hey we have evidence to prove it was him.
The other problem here is the indoctrination issue. Forcing things like this on kids is indoctrinating them to believe that their private information can be taken from them at any time "for the good of the people". So that, when they are grown, they are so used to it and so okay with it, that the government can essentially throw the 4th amendment out because hey, it's for the good of the people.
you need some fuel efficiency in your life.
Your google glass is accessible to you and to those you personally give permission to, there is no difference between that and your cell phone. And not everyone gets a woody when talking about glass.
Whether you think the program is good or bad is irrelevant. The issue at hand is, they did this to minors without permission from the parents or notification to them.
But seriously though, why would you need iris scans of kids? Their reasoning is to track the students getting on and off the buses, replacing the identification cards that they students carry now. Oh wait, ALL of the kids had the scans done. What about the kids that do not ride the buses, the ones that walk or have parents/guardians pick them up and drop them off everyday. Not only are they invading the privacy by collecting personal information from a minor without consent, but they are removing a valuable lesson in responsibility, as well as collecting this data for people that will not or do not use the system at all.
What's more, the article says that all of the students went through the program, but you're telling me that there were no students at all that objected? I find it hard to believe that there were high school students involved and no one said "no".
How are you going to react when the police come door to door installing biometric scanners and requiring you to scan in/out each time you leave the house, walk into/out of a building, get into/out of your car?
The court is treating each issue separately. Failure to abide by the order may not cause the judge to toss out the extradition just the seized evidence used in the case. I'm more interested to see whether the US DoJ abides by the ruling or ignores it. This is what will set a major precedent.
well sure, you change it for short (relatively) periods of time not for 24/7.
I would rather not. Though this does focus around 2 sets of douches, the more important piece is the battle between the US DoJ and NZ. This easily falls into YRO. Depending on what gets decided here, a precedent will be set for future cases that can and will affect people who store files remotely, fileshare, run public storage services etc. Not to mention, the rights violations in regards to search and seizure that the US and NZ police executed.
well, the judge has also ruled that the US has to give back the data and destroy whatever copies they made of it if it is not relevant to the case at hand. Now, will they abide by the ruling? Probably not as that court has no jurisdiction in the US. Will the US appeal the decision? Possibly. I want to see the US as well as the NZ police who executed the warrants taken to task for this. If you are going to catch a criminal and prosecute, fine, but you better do it right and by the book else you are nothing more than a criminal.
Because nothing at all could go wrong with changing your body chemistry to turn you into a battery for the purpose of unlocking a phone....
that's what red lights are for.
didn't search your uName while reading from my phone while driving. I apologize for missing your previous statement.
But it's not 1.0e9 tons hitting you in the fragmented instance. You're reasoning is that you explode the roid but all of the chunks still hit you when in reality, you would explode the roid and X chunks miss you entirely while Y chunks actually impact the atmosphere.
If you break a roid of 1.0e9 MT into 1000 smaller chunks, changing the trajectory of even 20% of the chunks such that they miss you entirely, you are reducing your impact mass by 200 million MT. That's a fairly significant number. This represents only what misses us entirely, not what would "skip" off the upper atmosphere.
Additionally, small pockets of gas/dust would settle and dissipate much faster than 1 very large pocket.
Also, you are removing the effect of the large mass impacting a single area creating either a tidal wave on an oceanic impact, or a massive dust cloud on a land impact.
In your experience, is it easier to push 1 large and heavy object than it is to break that object into smaller pieces and push them individually? I know in my experience, it's easier to pack all of my books into small boxes and carry them than it is to try to move all of my bookshelves at once.
so that it starts annihilating our thousands of satellites.... RAMMING SPEED!
It's this thing called physics and specifically, astrophysics. You break these roids up into smaller pieces. The gravity of nearby planets and the sun would have a far more drastic effect on the smaller pieces as well as the energy from the explosion modifying the trajectory of the pieces.