I use OSX, and yeah the default browser (Internet Explorer) pretty much sucks balls. I've somehow "configured" it to crash every time I try to change my preferences.
Anyway, I use Omni Web. It lacks in the way of Java support, but it has a very slick GUI.
The only browser I can say I like better is Opera under Linux (I use that at work). Opera for windows and OSX isnt't so good...
Anyway with fink and XoX you can have Evolution for OSX, but using it requires you to start up XWindows. That's slightly annoying. The OSX mail client is pretty good anyway. For what little email reading I do at home I use it. From reading the Fink list it seems people are using Evolution successfully though.
I guess this is pretty off topic so I'll put in my 2 cents about Evolution. I've been following it since the pre 0.8 days and using it since the 0.9x days. I love it.
Before I read my email in Emacs.:) Well, you gotta love RMAIL, but the Evolution GUI sure does beat the snot out of it. I use the contact manager, and the calendar. Both are nice. It's been said before, but GPG works well with it, although RMAIL may be better there.
I've gotten all of the people who have Linux desktops at my office to start using it over other things like Netscape mail, pine, and mutt. If you have a Linux desktop there is no competition.
-craig
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Come on, what about a MUD!?!
The only difficulty I see there is that it's not peer-to-peer.
However, given the text interface for the mud and the lack of graphics on the hand helds/cell phones it could be viable.
All you'd need is some kind of input device. On the handhelds with the tiny keyboards this would work, but on cell phones I'm not sure.
Maybe a text->voice, voice->text translator for sending commands and then getting descriptions back. Can you imagine the conversations you'd be having in line.
Phone: "You're creeping thorough a deep dark forrest. Tall trees with vines curling up their sides surround you. The moisture in the air is making it hard for you to breath.
There is a large wolf here."
You: "Kill wolf" "cast magic missle" "cast cone of cold"
The looks you'd get standing in line would be worth standing in as many as possible!;)
Seriously thogh, I don't think MUD appeals to the populous.
Going to when I get enough money, which may never
happen. Plus I'm only 24, which makes me not quite old enough for Congress yet.
We should be educating the technically illiterate rather than snubbing them as we so often do. This does matter to Joe Sixpack, they just haven't the background to see how.
See the original message. When I hear about these kinds of things I always tell the people I know about them. Ultimately we should all be doing this.
Yeah, and then you cant legally vote or own a gun. The two things that the government would most like to take awy from you.
Yeah, but if you're going to jail for tax evasion, may as well go a second time for gun law violations, and tax evasion again too.
Seriously though, when have our votes actually mattered. All the candidates consistently suck. I don't even know why I continue to vote. I guess I still have some hope, but it's dwindling. When it's gone I'll stop paying taxes.
I wish there were a way to vote, but not vote for anyone, just to register the fact they are all basically worthless.
So when are we all just going to stop paying taxes? They can't lock us all away... Besides that I can think of alot of things I could be doing 24 hours a day in a jail cell. Wanna learn Gong Fu anyone?
The only problem with PS2 Linux is that it's
only available on the Japanese Model, and sadly they have no plans to make it available on the American or European versions of the PS2. See
PS2 Linux.Com for the sad news.
On a happier note I've noticed that a Russian Company called Runix has ported the Linux Kernel to PS One.
The port doesn't come with installation instructions or anything, but you can get the code.... I wasn't exactly sure what to do with it once I got it though. I don't even have a PSOne.. oh well.
We have to remember that we elect these people. When we see short-signed, hair-brained, back-ass-wards bills being proposed by them, we should realize that we made a mistake by electing them, and then try not to do it again. Moreover tell your parents, kids, friends, co-workers, and anyone else who will listen not to elect them again either. Of course, the competition come election time is usually pathetic, but that's a different story.
Another thing, it seems to me that a good proportion of our population is technically illiterate. In addition, as the sampling age goes up technological illiteracy does as well. If this stands, then I'd say our Congressmen are close to the bottom of the barrel when it comes to this kind of stuff. It's unfortunate because their mostly uninformed points-of-view can have potentially disasterous effects on the future.
---anonymous coward said--- It's no coincidence that the vast majority of the rabid "open source or bust" crowd is no older than their early twenties. ----------------------------
I guess I fall into this category and I know why I support open source. I do it because I like to look at source code and change it if I want to. I hate broken software. That's the practical reason.
On a more abstract level I think open source is a break away from the status quo. We don't have to buy everything, we don't need to rely on big business. I have a DIY (do it yourself) attitude and open source complements that. I've grown up being told (by our media) that I should buy, buy, buy, and I'm sick of it. Worse yet I'm sick of the people who keep telling me to buy. I'm sick of them buying the government. I'm sick of them trying to rule my life. I'm sick of them ruling other people's lives. I'm sick of their images of beauty and fun. I don't need our coporate media and I do my best to live without their products. Open source (Free Software I should say, we get those terms mixed alot), is just one way of getting away from their posion.
I use OSX, and yeah the default browser (Internet Explorer) pretty much sucks balls. I've somehow "configured" it to crash every time I try to change my preferences.
Anyway, I use Omni Web. It lacks in the way of Java support, but it has a very slick GUI.
The only browser I can say I like better is Opera under Linux (I use that at work). Opera for windows and OSX isnt't so good...
Anyway with fink and XoX you can have Evolution for OSX, but using it requires you to start up XWindows. That's slightly annoying. The OSX mail client is pretty good anyway. For what little email reading I do at home I use it. From reading the Fink list it seems people are using Evolution successfully though.
I guess this is pretty off topic so I'll put in my 2 cents about Evolution. I've been following it since the pre 0.8 days and using it since the 0.9x days. I love it.
Before I read my email in Emacs.
It's been said before, but GPG works well with it, although RMAIL may be better there.
I've gotten all of the people who have Linux desktops at my office to start using it over other things like Netscape mail, pine, and mutt. If you have a Linux desktop there is no competition.
-craig
Come on, what about a MUD!?!
The only difficulty I see there is that it's not peer-to-peer.
However, given the text interface for the mud and the lack of graphics on the hand helds/cell phones it could be viable.
All you'd need is some kind of input device. On the handhelds with the tiny keyboards this would work, but on cell phones I'm not sure.
Maybe a text->voice, voice->text translator for sending commands and then getting descriptions back. Can you imagine the conversations you'd be having in line.
Phone: "You're creeping thorough a deep dark forrest. Tall trees with vines curling up their sides surround you. The moisture in the air is making it hard for you to breath.
There is a large wolf here."
You:
"Kill wolf"
"cast magic missle"
"cast cone of cold"
The looks you'd get standing in line would be worth standing in as many as possible!
Seriously thogh, I don't think MUD appeals to the populous.
That's Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is it not. I'm not moderating, but I thought it was funny. :P
Yes, true. Run for office yourself.
Going to when I get enough money, which may never
happen. Plus I'm only 24, which makes me not quite old enough for Congress yet.
We should be educating the technically illiterate rather than snubbing them as we so often do. This does matter to Joe Sixpack, they just haven't the background to see how.
See the original message. When I hear about these kinds of things I always tell the people I know about them. Ultimately we should all be doing this.
Yeah, and then you cant legally vote or own a gun. The two things that the government would most like to take awy from you.
Yeah, but if you're going to jail for tax evasion, may as well go a second time for gun law violations, and tax evasion again too.
Seriously though, when have our votes actually mattered. All the candidates consistently suck. I don't even know why I continue to vote. I guess I still have some hope, but it's dwindling. When it's gone I'll stop paying taxes.
I wish there were a way to vote, but not vote for anyone, just to register the fact they are all basically worthless.
So when are we all just going to stop paying taxes? They can't lock us all away... Besides that I can think of alot of things I could be doing 24 hours a day in a jail cell. Wanna learn Gong Fu anyone?
The only problem with PS2 Linux is that it's only available on the Japanese Model, and sadly they have no plans to make it available on the American or European versions of the PS2. See PS2 Linux.Com for the sad news.
On a happier note I've noticed that a Russian Company called Runix has ported the Linux Kernel to PS One. The port doesn't come with installation instructions or anything, but you can get the code.... I wasn't exactly sure what to do with it once I got it though. I don't even have a PSOne.. oh well.
We have to remember that we elect these people. When we see short-signed, hair-brained, back-ass-wards bills being proposed by them, we should realize that we made a mistake by electing them, and then try not to do it again. Moreover tell your parents, kids, friends, co-workers, and anyone else who will listen not to elect them again either. Of course, the competition come election time is usually pathetic, but that's a different story.
Another thing, it seems to me that a good proportion of our population is technically illiterate. In addition, as the sampling age goes up technological illiteracy does as well. If this stands, then I'd say our Congressmen are close to the bottom of the barrel when it comes to this kind of stuff. It's unfortunate because their mostly uninformed points-of-view can have potentially disasterous effects on the future.
---anonymous coward said---
It's no coincidence that the vast majority of the rabid "open source or bust" crowd is no older than their early twenties.
----------------------------
I guess I fall into this category and I know why I support open source. I do it because I like to look at source code and change it if I want to. I hate broken software. That's the practical reason.
On a more abstract level I think open source is a break away from the status quo. We don't have to buy everything, we don't need to rely on big business. I have a DIY (do it yourself) attitude and open source complements that. I've grown up being told (by our media) that I should buy, buy, buy, and I'm sick of it. Worse yet I'm sick of the people who keep telling me to buy. I'm sick of them buying the government. I'm sick of them trying to rule my life. I'm sick of them ruling other people's lives. I'm sick of their images of beauty and fun. I don't need our coporate media and I do my best to live without their products. Open source (Free Software I should say, we get those terms mixed alot), is just one way of getting away from their posion.