You are absolutely right, banks as a concept are evil, and the concept of money is unsustainable.
Jesus Fucking Christ. I really hope you are a angsty teen trying to rebel, because there is NO justification for an adult to have those views. If you really don't think that a banker creates more wealth than a farmer. . . then by all means, go back three thousand years to where everyone was substance farming and tell me that times were better.
I mean really, grow the fuck up, both mentally and (hopefully) physically.
Ahh, the standard "money is fiction, so any discussion about it i win" line.
I speak of money as wealth and wealth as property. Will you come back with some anti property rubbish?
No one goes hat in hand to a banker to beg for the means to make something of themselves. Please. They are there, like us, to create wealth, to better ourselves. They buy risk in order to create wealth, just like a farmer grows corn to create wealth.
Although it is refreshing to actually see you admit to believing in a system(communism) that historically fails time and time again.
So fuck along now, continue to think that banks are evil, continue to think that capitalism only works by military force, continue to think that there is a better system. I cannot argue with a person that refuses to accept reality, both in a historic and present sense.
So you think that America should pass out money along with the most freedoms in the world? Once we start doing that, you will just cry that some people have More money than other, then you will cry that there are limited resources in the world. America doesn't guarantee equal outcomes, it guarantees equal opportunity. you want it to guarantee equal outcomes as well. What economic system do you support? Its not capitalism. in capitalism there is no money given away for free.
in Regards to your baron comment. . . really, seriously, do you consider yourself to be a communist?
I believe that if you actively uphold the values that made it great, that is to say that you are actively participating in continuing what made it great in the past, you can be proud of what you are doing, and what you are doing it for. Like a good player playing on a Great team, he is proud of doing his part to Continue to make it great. Its not all that he is proud of what they are doing, a very real part is that is the history of the team. The commet that got a +5 failed to take that into account at all. I hear what you are saying, and i agree, just adding that individual people Do have a substantial responsibility to continue greatness every day. In how they vote, how they act, and how they live.
but amazon didnt boot them due to "i dont like you", thep kicked them due to hasting classified data that obviously wasnt theirs. This in their eyes wasnt a case of whistle blowing, it was a case of just sharing everything because they could. and i believe that that mentality is why wikileaks will fail, they arent a whistleblowing organization.
That is funny, you imply that the US is the criminal terrorist government here, yet the leaks show that Iran is much worse than even we thought. Its amazing the complete disregard for facts here.
A. They had warrants B. Amazon categorically denied this, but slashdot posters know more i guess. . . C. They are in NO way close to mandating that D. True. E. boogieman.
Seriously, this is turning into a typical slastdot USA is Bad rant with no regard for the facts.
this has not been proven, and amazon has expressly stated that it isn't true. Perhaps amazon / paypal respect the need for secrecy in governmental affairs.
Remember, these are not whistle-blowers, these are just leakers, the VAST majority are pointless and boring. Wikileaks is leaking for the sake of doing it, not whistle-blowing. they arent proving a point, they arent calling issue to a particular topic, they are simply grabbing up private data and shoveling it to the world, with no reason other than a general "information wants to be free" mantra.
I think he is implying that you have the most sustainable freedoms anywhere in the world here in the usa. You can bitch about paypal dropping a customer and somehow equate that to wikileaks losing a freedom, but that isnt the case, paypal has the freedom to choose whe they do business with, just like you do.
Paypal isnt limiting freedom by dropping wikileaks anymore than you are limiting paypals freedom by boycotting them.
The aspect of capitalism in this country that is so under-appreciated is that companies have rights just the same as people do. You can cry that things arent perfect all day long, but point to a better system, then move there. Since you cant do that, grow the fuck up and stop your illogical whining. The slaves could point to the masters as a sustainable example of people with more freedom than them. Can you? do you -really- think that corporations have more freedoms than people do?
Those are all well and true, but computer industry startups are known for Radical free thinking and turning things on their head. I was just saying that Apple did not do that this year. They arent acting like a startup, they are acting like a big company, incrementally upgrading products, homogenizing their image. . . these arent bad things, but they arent start up things either.
Lets be clear, we are not talking commercial success here, we are talking about if these products are "innovating like a startup". Are some of them good? yes. are they startup level innovations? NO.
the iPad is literally an iPhone minus hardware. The iPhone4 brings what to the table? a faster chip? and the AppleTV is so far behind others in the field it is laughable.
Someone tell iTunes this. iTunes is between malware and wasted space. It is the ONLY program to ever crash win7 in about a year. How do you even do that? How can a program that handles mp3s be more unresponsive than editing a hi def video in an adobe product? Literally. I mean, it is Shocking how bad iTunes is written.
I agree to a point. The average person doesn't know that you can open your screen one fingered. The average person doesn't know about the little feet. (to be fair, use a macbook pro on your lap for an hour, it gets HOT.)
On some level, people notice these things, but on another, laptops today have stepped it up finally, most look as good if not better than a macbook. People buy a brand. either they get a "new laptop" or a "mac".
For every clever thing Apple does (quick disconnect power) there are 3 software annoyances that are infuriating.(iTunes)(not being able to view the next picture in a folder)(fullscreen)
I want to like Apple products, I really do. I LOVE good design and elegant looks. But i live in the real world, and their software just. sucks.
Being able to save attachments, or have a slew of files organized does get work done. Browsing to network stares gets the work done. Having an Office suite out of the box gets work done. Free tethering and real multitasking, flash and huge file storage, Video chat and a camera, these get the work done.
being able to buy a million games does not get the work done.
I wasn't complaining that their products weren't brand new, I was saying that the last year Apple has NOT been "relentlessly innovating like a startup". What they have been doing is continuing to sell their product lines, and making small improvements therein. That is NOT operating like a startup.
Compared to Microsoft this year that released a radically different, brand new phone OS, or Adobe that released CS5. Not that I like these products per se, but I can not justify the line that this years profits are due to industry leading innovation.
IMHO Apple harvested profits this year on the crops planted years ago. This is not a negative comment.
The company that i like made more money than the company that you like? really? I like my products for their merits, not how much money I just gave to the company that made them. And yes, the droid tablet (galaxy) is nice, you can. . . gasp. . ..save files to . . . gasp. . . folders on the device. Try that on your iPad.
Predicting that there will be wars in the next 50-100 years? Bold move. Sure you dont want to play it a bit safer and say 100-200?
So what major company is doing better?
Jesus Fucking Christ. I really hope you are a angsty teen trying to rebel, because there is NO justification for an adult to have those views. If you really don't think that a banker creates more wealth than a farmer. . . then by all means, go back three thousand years to where everyone was substance farming and tell me that times were better.
I mean really, grow the fuck up, both mentally and (hopefully) physically.
I speak of money as wealth and wealth as property. Will you come back with some anti property rubbish?
No one goes hat in hand to a banker to beg for the means to make something of themselves. Please. They are there, like us, to create wealth, to better ourselves. They buy risk in order to create wealth, just like a farmer grows corn to create wealth.
Although it is refreshing to actually see you admit to believing in a system(communism) that historically fails time and time again.
So fuck along now, continue to think that banks are evil, continue to think that capitalism only works by military force, continue to think that there is a better system. I cannot argue with a person that refuses to accept reality, both in a historic and present sense.
and my logic disproves it. so i am a correct dick, while he is an incorrect one.
in Regards to your baron comment. . . really, seriously, do you consider yourself to be a communist?
I believe that if you actively uphold the values that made it great, that is to say that you are actively participating in continuing what made it great in the past, you can be proud of what you are doing, and what you are doing it for. Like a good player playing on a Great team, he is proud of doing his part to Continue to make it great. Its not all that he is proud of what they are doing, a very real part is that is the history of the team. The commet that got a +5 failed to take that into account at all. I hear what you are saying, and i agree, just adding that individual people Do have a substantial responsibility to continue greatness every day. In how they vote, how they act, and how they live.
but amazon didnt boot them due to "i dont like you", thep kicked them due to hasting classified data that obviously wasnt theirs. This in their eyes wasnt a case of whistle blowing, it was a case of just sharing everything because they could. and i believe that that mentality is why wikileaks will fail, they arent a whistleblowing organization.
You can say that America is a shitty country and stands for shitty things all you want, but some of us dont feel that way.
That is funny, you imply that the US is the criminal terrorist government here, yet the leaks show that Iran is much worse than even we thought. Its amazing the complete disregard for facts here.
Seriously, this is turning into a typical slastdot USA is Bad rant with no regard for the facts.
do you not see that that is a restriction on freedom?
http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ussr
Really dude, its called ad hominem, get a clue.
Remember, these are not whistle-blowers, these are just leakers, the VAST majority are pointless and boring. Wikileaks is leaking for the sake of doing it, not whistle-blowing. they arent proving a point, they arent calling issue to a particular topic, they are simply grabbing up private data and shoveling it to the world, with no reason other than a general "information wants to be free" mantra.
Paypal isnt limiting freedom by dropping wikileaks anymore than you are limiting paypals freedom by boycotting them.
The aspect of capitalism in this country that is so under-appreciated is that companies have rights just the same as people do. You can cry that things arent perfect all day long, but point to a better system, then move there. Since you cant do that, grow the fuck up and stop your illogical whining. The slaves could point to the masters as a sustainable example of people with more freedom than them. Can you? do you -really- think that corporations have more freedoms than people do?
Those are all well and true, but computer industry startups are known for Radical free thinking and turning things on their head. I was just saying that Apple did not do that this year. They arent acting like a startup, they are acting like a big company, incrementally upgrading products, homogenizing their image. . . these arent bad things, but they arent start up things either.
I understand you do not understand the need for national security, so lets just go with, "do you have any concern for anyones privacy at all?"
the iPad is literally an iPhone minus hardware. The iPhone4 brings what to the table? a faster chip? and the AppleTV is so far behind others in the field it is laughable.
Someone tell iTunes this. iTunes is between malware and wasted space. It is the ONLY program to ever crash win7 in about a year. How do you even do that? How can a program that handles mp3s be more unresponsive than editing a hi def video in an adobe product? Literally. I mean, it is Shocking how bad iTunes is written.
you are so so stupid.
On some level, people notice these things, but on another, laptops today have stepped it up finally, most look as good if not better than a macbook. People buy a brand. either they get a "new laptop" or a "mac".
For every clever thing Apple does (quick disconnect power) there are 3 software annoyances that are infuriating.(iTunes)(not being able to view the next picture in a folder)(fullscreen)
I want to like Apple products, I really do. I LOVE good design and elegant looks. But i live in the real world, and their software just. sucks.
Being able to save attachments, or have a slew of files organized does get work done. Browsing to network stares gets the work done. Having an Office suite out of the box gets work done. Free tethering and real multitasking, flash and huge file storage, Video chat and a camera, these get the work done. being able to buy a million games does not get the work done.
whoosh!
Compared to Microsoft this year that released a radically different, brand new phone OS, or Adobe that released CS5. Not that I like these products per se, but I can not justify the line that this years profits are due to industry leading innovation.
IMHO Apple harvested profits this year on the crops planted years ago. This is not a negative comment.
The company that i like made more money than the company that you like? really? I like my products for their merits, not how much money I just gave to the company that made them. And yes, the droid tablet (galaxy) is nice, you can. . . gasp. . . .save files to . . . gasp. . . folders on the device. Try that on your iPad.