While I certainly do not disagree with you, you're simply arguing scale.
Uhh... of *course* he's arguing scale. We're talking about the difference between a stick of dynamite and a thermonuclear explosion, here. AIG is, quite simply, too big and intertwined with the American financial system to be allowed to fail. Period.
I think it's safe to say the same isn't true of CC.
Free example how AIG sets off falling dominos: our local metro mass-transit authority has its bonds insured by AIG. The bondholders are claiming that AIG's troubles means that the bonds are now in violation of covenant and must be redeemed immediately. Obviously, the authority doesn't have the cash to redeem bonds that aren't due for many years. It looks like it'll probably get cleaned up, but if AIG wasn't being bailed out, it could be getting a lot nastier.
Shhh! Don't interrupt his wild, anti-corporatist rantings with facts! All you'll do is confuse him. I mean, let's face it... this shit is complicated. It's far simpler to assume that it's just "corporate fatcats" or "the illuminati" or something like that, than to try and actually understand the issues.
So, as AIG gets its THIRD multi-billion dollar bailout in just a few months, I'm left wondering where Circuit City's bailout is.
Well, is Circuit City a vital lynchpin of the economy that is too big to fail thanks to the horrendously massive, completely unregulated CDS market that the government failed to reign in?
If you can point to a clause in the constitution and say "Nope, that's 1700s stuff, it doesn't count" you can do that to any aspect of the constitution.
Funny, I try to use the same argument when discussing another religious text: the bible. Yet few seem to agree.
I much rather use Visual mode for this, as I hate having to remember line numbers. Just hit 'V', highlight the region, and then type ':s/FROM/TO/g'. Vim does the rest.
Why would mention the comments if you weren't implying that the comments disproved the benchmarks?
Fair enough. I suppose I could've simply stuck to debunking the claims, not mentioning the Slashdot article at all, but I figured it would be useful to demonstrate that I wasn't the only one who found those tests to be, at best, poorly interpreted, and at worst, flat out misleading. IOW, I wasn't citing the aforementioned discussion as proof... I simply felt they added weight to my argument.
Interestingly, I note that you haven't attempted to counter my points. I'll take that as an admission that you consider them valid, despite your continued bitching.
You're mad that I called you out for relying on random Slashdot comments.
How's that overinflated sense of self-importance working out for you?
I never said they were disproved. I said the presumption that that benchmark demonstrates "bloat" makes no fucking sense given that CPU-intensive operations, which are unaffected by bloat as people tradititionally define it (ie, excessive memory use), was significantly impacted in the move from 7.10 to 8.04. As such, your "proof" isn't.
'course, if you can't understand this basic, logical thinking, then perhaps you should refrain from participating in this discussion, as it's clear you're not sufficiently educated in the topic.
Joe the Pedo cares a lot about getting free untraceable internet access. I care a lot about not getting my house raided because someone abused my network.
Some of my friends think I'm weird because I'm pulling cat5e around the house when everything I use is already working find with WPA2.
You are weird if you're doing that because of security concerns. Here's a hint: no one cares about your wireless network. No, really, they don't.
That said, given how flakey wireless can be, running cable is only sensible, particularly given it makes it easy to run additional telephones, etc, as well.
You mean the benchmarks that were discussed a while back here on Slashdot, where most people concluded that things like aggressive power saving features were most likely the cause for the performance degradation, and *not*, in fact, bloat?
I mean, FFS, how can you conclude that bloat is the issue when MP3 encoding, which is about as raw a CPU test as there is, became slower? Power saving features are *far* more likely the culprit.
Run the tests on a proper desktop machine, and get back to me. Until then, I declare their conclusions, at best, suspect.
Spoken like someone who doesn't understand the benefits of Postscript. PS gives you the ability to render, in a resolution-neutral format, precisely what should be written to the paper. You can then leave it to the printer to do this job correctly, and the computer need not even know about details such as DPI, etc.
At best, you might want to replace PS with some other, simpler (ie, not turing complete) vector-based format (eg, SVG)? But turning over rendering to the PC is precisely what you *don't* want to do.
I don't understand. We _do_ have filesystems (JFFS [wikipedia.org], JFFS2 [wikipedia.org], YAFFS [wikipedia.org] LogFS [logfs.org]) that are tailor-made for Flash devices.
Yeah, but they're pointless on USB flash devices because the block device layer, and in particular the mandatory wear leveling, means that the hardware gets in the way of implementing a proper flash filesystem, as you can't control what gets written where.
As a Canadian, I can only hope you're right. Our nation has had to take on a very large burden in the war in Afghanistan, and while I absolutely believe that we should be there, we need help. Lots of it. Here's hoping the US can begin pulling more weight, there.
linux failed on 2 of my laptops and i know plenty of people who have given up on wifi.
When was that? Things have changed a lot in the last year or two. Heck, just last year, my T61 barely worked out of the box. With Ubuntu 8.04, everything just worked (okay, with the exception of hibernation, which remains the bane of Linux on laptops, IME, and suspend, which works most of the time, but sometimes doesn't wake up). Wireless (both WEP and WPA), sound, 3D acceleration (after instructing Ubuntu to switch to the NVIDIA drivers)... all of it worked without a hitch (much to my surprise). And after some tweaking, it also exhibited lower power consumption than the Vista install that came with the machine, by a good 1.5 watts. Go figure.
And for anyone who *does* install things to/usr/local occasionally, may I introduce you to GNU Stow. Anyone installing directly to/usr/local is asking for trouble... stow (or any number of similar alternatives) makes it possible to manage software in/usr/local in a sensible way. I've been using it for many years, now, and I can't imagine my life without it.
Where did the idea that Democrats would have reacted differently to the September 11 attacks come from?
They probably wouldn't have reacted to the September 11th attacks differently. And good thing, too, as Afghanistan was/is clearly an issue, something the entire international communities agreed on, which is why everyone had America's back on that one.
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While I certainly do not disagree with you, you're simply arguing scale.
Uhh... of *course* he's arguing scale. We're talking about the difference between a stick of dynamite and a thermonuclear explosion, here. AIG is, quite simply, too big and intertwined with the American financial system to be allowed to fail. Period.
I think it's safe to say the same isn't true of CC.
Free example how AIG sets off falling dominos: our local metro mass-transit authority has its bonds insured by AIG. The bondholders are claiming that AIG's troubles means that the bonds are now in violation of covenant and must be redeemed immediately. Obviously, the authority doesn't have the cash to redeem bonds that aren't due for many years. It looks like it'll probably get cleaned up, but if AIG wasn't being bailed out, it could be getting a lot nastier.
Shhh! Don't interrupt his wild, anti-corporatist rantings with facts! All you'll do is confuse him. I mean, let's face it... this shit is complicated. It's far simpler to assume that it's just "corporate fatcats" or "the illuminati" or something like that, than to try and actually understand the issues.
So, as AIG gets its THIRD multi-billion dollar bailout in just a few months, I'm left wondering where Circuit City's bailout is.
Well, is Circuit City a vital lynchpin of the economy that is too big to fail thanks to the horrendously massive, completely unregulated CDS market that the government failed to reign in?
No?
Then fuck them.
We already have a programming language with a simple syntax and the strengths of Lisp and Ruby. It's called Lisp.
Actually, it's called Smalltalk.
Of course. How better to live in an echo-chamber than to build it yourself?
Well, you know what they say: when you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
Or: why all programmers should be required to take a class in formal languages.
If you can point to a clause in the constitution and say "Nope, that's 1700s stuff, it doesn't count" you can do that to any aspect of the constitution.
Funny, I try to use the same argument when discussing another religious text: the bible. Yet few seem to agree.
You could fund a few grad students to develop your program for beans
Yeah. Problem is, if a maintainable, well-design result is your goal, a grad student might not be the greatest idea... ;)
I much rather use Visual mode for this, as I hate having to remember line numbers. Just hit 'V', highlight the region, and then type ':s/FROM/TO/g'. Vim does the rest.
I take it the ceilings in your home aren't stippled to reduce echos?
Why would mention the comments if you weren't implying that the comments disproved the benchmarks?
Fair enough. I suppose I could've simply stuck to debunking the claims, not mentioning the Slashdot article at all, but I figured it would be useful to demonstrate that I wasn't the only one who found those tests to be, at best, poorly interpreted, and at worst, flat out misleading. IOW, I wasn't citing the aforementioned discussion as proof... I simply felt they added weight to my argument.
Interestingly, I note that you haven't attempted to counter my points. I'll take that as an admission that you consider them valid, despite your continued bitching.
You're mad that I called you out for relying on random Slashdot comments.
How's that overinflated sense of self-importance working out for you?
Older Linuxes are built on GCC 3.x or GCC 4.1.x. Since 4.2.x, GCC has produced absolute garbage code when the Gentoo flags are not enabled.
None of which has to do with "bloat" as most people define it.
But nice job arguing against a point I never made.
I never said they were disproved. I said the presumption that that benchmark demonstrates "bloat" makes no fucking sense given that CPU-intensive operations, which are unaffected by bloat as people tradititionally define it (ie, excessive memory use), was significantly impacted in the move from 7.10 to 8.04. As such, your "proof" isn't.
'course, if you can't understand this basic, logical thinking, then perhaps you should refrain from participating in this discussion, as it's clear you're not sufficiently educated in the topic.
Joe the Pedo cares a lot about getting free untraceable internet access. I care a lot about not getting my house raided because someone abused my network.
I know, that's happened so many times, right!
No, wait, it hasn't happened once, ever.
Paranoid much?
Some of my friends think I'm weird because I'm pulling cat5e around the house when everything I use is already working find with WPA2.
You are weird if you're doing that because of security concerns. Here's a hint: no one cares about your wireless network. No, really, they don't.
That said, given how flakey wireless can be, running cable is only sensible, particularly given it makes it easy to run additional telephones, etc, as well.
You mean the benchmarks that were discussed a while back here on Slashdot, where most people concluded that things like aggressive power saving features were most likely the cause for the performance degradation, and *not*, in fact, bloat?
I mean, FFS, how can you conclude that bloat is the issue when MP3 encoding, which is about as raw a CPU test as there is, became slower? Power saving features are *far* more likely the culprit.
Run the tests on a proper desktop machine, and get back to me. Until then, I declare their conclusions, at best, suspect.
Postscript just doesn't make sense.
Spoken like someone who doesn't understand the benefits of Postscript. PS gives you the ability to render, in a resolution-neutral format, precisely what should be written to the paper. You can then leave it to the printer to do this job correctly, and the computer need not even know about details such as DPI, etc.
At best, you might want to replace PS with some other, simpler (ie, not turing complete) vector-based format (eg, SVG)? But turning over rendering to the PC is precisely what you *don't* want to do.
I don't understand. We _do_ have filesystems (JFFS [wikipedia.org], JFFS2 [wikipedia.org], YAFFS [wikipedia.org] LogFS [logfs.org]) that are tailor-made for Flash devices.
Yeah, but they're pointless on USB flash devices because the block device layer, and in particular the mandatory wear leveling, means that the hardware gets in the way of implementing a proper flash filesystem, as you can't control what gets written where.
Based on what, exactly?
Oh, yeah, nothing but your own bias that Linux is experiencing "feature bloat".
perl -pi -e "s/searchme/replaceme/g" `find . -name \*.cpp -o -name \*.h`
Allow me to introduce you to xargs:
find . -name *.cpp -or -name *.h | xargs perl -pi -e "s/searchme/replaceme/g"
See, suddenly you don't have to escape things or rely on annoying bash-isms.
As a Canadian, I can only hope you're right. Our nation has had to take on a very large burden in the war in Afghanistan, and while I absolutely believe that we should be there, we need help. Lots of it. Here's hoping the US can begin pulling more weight, there.
linux failed on 2 of my laptops and i know plenty of people who have given up on wifi.
When was that? Things have changed a lot in the last year or two. Heck, just last year, my T61 barely worked out of the box. With Ubuntu 8.04, everything just worked (okay, with the exception of hibernation, which remains the bane of Linux on laptops, IME, and suspend, which works most of the time, but sometimes doesn't wake up). Wireless (both WEP and WPA), sound, 3D acceleration (after instructing Ubuntu to switch to the NVIDIA drivers)... all of it worked without a hitch (much to my surprise). And after some tweaking, it also exhibited lower power consumption than the Vista install that came with the machine, by a good 1.5 watts. Go figure.
And for anyone who *does* install things to /usr/local occasionally, may I introduce you to GNU Stow. Anyone installing directly to /usr/local is asking for trouble... stow (or any number of similar alternatives) makes it possible to manage software in /usr/local in a sensible way. I've been using it for many years, now, and I can't imagine my life without it.
If he dare challenge certain powerful interests, he will be ousted.
Loosen your tinfoil hat, it's clearly impeding the blood flow to your brain.
Where did the idea that Democrats would have reacted differently to the September 11 attacks come from?
They probably wouldn't have reacted to the September 11th attacks differently. And good thing, too, as Afghanistan was/is clearly an issue, something the entire international communities agreed on, which is why everyone had America's back on that one.
Iraq, on the other hand...