metallica's music is crap that any 12 year old playing guitar for a year and a half can (and does) reproduce. well, except for the guitar solos. you have to practice for quite a while to be able to bore audiences with that style of wanking.
check out www.peacefire.org . they have lots of info on the filtering software. i think you'd be suprised what these companies block. they clearly have a political agenda.
while i agree that a LABOR UNION for computer geeks isn't needed, i am also disturbed at the amount of union bashing going on around here. i did not come out of the womb with a resume with enough geek experience to get a geek job. i've worked both union and non-union jobs (doing manual labor), and the union jobs have always had better pay and more benefits. simple as that.
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If we, the Geeks of the world wanted to be less productive whiney arses, we would be end-users! The Idea of ANY Labor Union appalls me!
EXCUSE ME? are you calling union workers lazy? i'm sorry, but that accusation has no basis in fact.
if you've ever had to work a job outside the realm of the computer industry, you'd know that unions are not useless and union workers are not lazy.
I really can't think of any like the free flow of information that is quite so un-communist.
actually, the free flow of information is most decidely un-capitalist!
don't think of the state capitalist countries like the former soviet union and china as communist countries. that's like calling hitler a socialist because his party was actually named the national socialist party.
you have obviously never worked a job where you deal with "average user". an average user does not pop a disk into a floppy drive and then proceeds to follow the on-screen directions. they won't bother installing a new printer. they'll have someone do it for them.
linux is obviously not the perfect enviroment for average joe user. i think that the "user friendly" factor of windows is way overstated. it's not as obvious as you think to some folks. work tech support at an isp for a week and then comment on how easy windows is for joe user.
for anyone other than joe user, saying linux is impossible is just the kneejerk reaction of a gui snob. most, if not all, of your settings are in/etc and its subdirectories. in windows, you just have to check or uncheck something. it's not too much more difficult for the knoledgeable person (the only one who would be messing with the darn settings anyway) to open a.conf file in their favorite editor and uncomment a line.
bottom line. joe user has a learning curve no matter if he has windoze, a mac(k) , or a unix. the only reason people are using windows today is because bill gates was a little better at the stealing game than the competition was. not because of any supposed great leaps of user-friendliness.
It is if they can't figure out why the hell some obscure flag set in/etc keeps them from doing something.
probably for the same reason they can't find the hidden registry key in windows that is making an incorrectly installed program that illegal ops and hangs the computer start at bootup. i really wish people would take this windows is simple shit and shove it up their asses sideways. windows is not simple. far from it. and to the guy who said that unix is the most user UNfriendly enviroment...you have obviously NEVER used OpenVMS.
1. parochial schools are expensive too. The high school i graduated from (a catholic school) now costs over 5000 dollars a year. it keeps going up too.
2. the same conditions exist in catholic school. they're even a little worse. you try to not be around people who pick on you when you're 8th grade class had 16 people in it. in high school, the situation there was just as bad as anywhere else. also since we were in an area where racial tensions were really high, we had a problem with neo-nazi skinheads. the only difference between a the private school i went to and a public school was that the school was SO short on funding and space that it lacked many of the things it needed for a top notch science program. our anatomy class was in the home-economics lab!
>> You're just as actively engaged in >>finger-pointing - and not at the perps >>themselves - as anyone else here. The parents >>didn't kill 13+ people any more than the media >>did.
umm, i don't know where you come from but where i come from parents are responsible to a degree for the well being of their children. sure the kids are responsible for the shootings. now everyone is trying to damn everyone from the people who make rpg's to musicians. why aren't they asking where the parents were when the perps were stockpiling weapons for a year?
let me just add one thing. the children are responsible too. i don't think i made that clear. ultimately the kids who pulled the triggers are responsible for their actions. maybe that's why all the blame is going around. the kids are dead, so someone must be blamed.
does anyone notice how no one in america is responsible for their actions anymore? instead it's the fault of the media, of the violent video games, of the dark role playing game, of the music and/or of the kids friends. a parent ignores all the warning signs that they have a troubled child. the child finally lashes out. whose fault is it? of course it can't be the parents! it has to be those violent video games, violent movies, or offensive music. bah! so since it was the video games fault etc... anyone who plays that game is a suspected killer. heck, them geeks in their trenchcoats are weird anyway. they gotta be up to something.
america today is ripe with hypocrites. we have politicians who make big deals over other peoples affairs, when they've done the same themselves. we have people who under no circumstance should be allowed to raise kids raising them (or letting tv do so). after they've made a mess of their kids and the kids do something stupid, it's the media's fault. i'm so sick of people blaiming the media. GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEADS. IT'S BAD PARENTING, NOT THE MEDIA THAT IS TURNING YOUR KIDS INTO KILLERS.
I want to know how 2 sets of parents didn't notice their sons stockpiling weapons for a year. that's a dilly for you america.
so now the counsellors and school officials want to pick up the slack. great. last group you want to do that. they deal with so many kids, they cannot possibly know them all. so now were dealing with the results of their knee-jerk reaction to this all. trying to find their own trenchcoat mafiosos.
i know if any of those things in the article happened to me in school, my parents would have been at the school in 5 minutes to give the school official the third degree. they might have even brought a lawyer. that's what you're kids from the article need to do. the officials at their schools need a whack with a clue-by-four. just bring the lawyer and make it legal.
yeah, microsoft doesn't want windows to become fragmented. forbid that someone comes along and makes a compatible product. hell, that might mean....competition! pinko.
hee hee hee monkeys hee hee hee that image makes me smile. something that microsoft's software doesn't do.
hey did anyone ever think of this? n't is how you usually shorten not in a contraction. leave out the apostrophe and you have nt! windows not. or better yet windows not server and windows not workstation. wow, what a descriptive name! joe
actually, since i live in nw indiana (lake county, as far north and west as you can get. specifically the "calumet region") i can tell you that we sure do spring forward and fall back.
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metallica's music is crap that any 12 year old playing guitar for a year and a half can (and does) reproduce. well, except for the guitar solos. you have to practice for quite a while to be able to bore audiences with that style of wanking.
the real problem is the whole ring thing. electrons are found in an area around the nucleus, not really a ring but more of a cloud around the nucleus.
maybe they'll hire david duke as a lobbyist next. they're the same in my book. they'll probably piss off as many people.
the "religious right" is the biggest (although not officially organized) hate group in the country.
yet another reason to hate microsoft.
check out www.peacefire.org . they have lots of info on the filtering software. i think you'd be suprised what these companies block. they clearly have a political agenda.
joe
while i agree that a LABOR UNION for computer geeks isn't needed, i am also disturbed at the amount of union bashing going on around here. i did not come out of the womb with a resume with enough geek experience to get a geek job. i've worked both union and non-union jobs (doing manual labor), and the union jobs have always had better pay and more benefits. simple as that.
If we, the Geeks of the world wanted to be less productive whiney arses, we would be end-users! The Idea of ANY Labor Union appalls me!
EXCUSE ME? are you calling union workers lazy? i'm sorry, but that accusation has no basis in fact.
if you've ever had to work a job outside the realm of the computer industry, you'd know that unions are not useless and union workers are not lazy.
I really can't think of any like the free flow of information that is quite so un-communist.
actually, the free flow of information is most decidely un-capitalist!
don't think of the state capitalist countries like the former soviet union and china as communist countries. that's like calling hitler a socialist because his party was actually named the national socialist party.
I agree with Metcalf for the most part. the CLI interface for unix is user-hostile, especially when compared to VMS.
what what what? at least unix doesn't let you change into directories that dont exist!
vms is the most hostile enviroment i've ever had the displeasure of working in.
you have obviously never worked a job where you deal with "average user". an average user does not pop a disk into a floppy drive and then proceeds to follow the on-screen directions. they won't bother installing a new printer. they'll have someone do it for them.
/etc and its subdirectories. in windows, you just have to check or uncheck something. it's not too much more difficult for the knoledgeable person (the only one who would be messing with the darn settings anyway) to open a .conf file in their favorite editor and uncomment a line.
linux is obviously not the perfect enviroment for average joe user. i think that the "user friendly" factor of windows is way overstated. it's not as obvious as you think to some folks. work tech support at an isp for a week and then comment on how easy windows is for joe user.
for anyone other than joe user, saying linux is impossible is just the kneejerk reaction of a gui snob. most, if not all, of your settings are in
bottom line. joe user has a learning curve no matter if he has windoze, a mac(k) , or a unix. the only reason people are using windows today is because bill gates was a little better at the stealing game than the competition was. not because of any supposed great leaps of user-friendliness.
errm...filthy liar. sorry.
filty liar. emacs is the one true editor.
It is if they can't figure out why the hell some obscure flag set in /etc keeps them from doing something.
probably for the same reason they can't find the hidden registry key in windows that is making an incorrectly installed program that illegal ops and hangs the computer start at bootup.
i really wish people would take this windows is simple shit and shove it up their asses sideways. windows is not simple. far from it.
and to the guy who said that unix is the most user UNfriendly enviroment...you have obviously NEVER used OpenVMS.
1. parochial schools are expensive too. The high school i graduated from (a catholic school) now costs over 5000 dollars a year. it keeps going up too.
2. the same conditions exist in catholic school. they're even a little worse. you try to not be around people who pick on you when you're 8th grade class had 16 people in it. in high school, the situation there was just as bad as anywhere else. also since we were in an area where racial tensions were really high, we had a problem with neo-nazi skinheads.
the only difference between a the private school i went to and a public school was that the school was SO short on funding and space that it lacked many of the things it needed for a top notch science program. our anatomy class was in the home-economics lab!
foreigners eh? unless you're an american indian, your a foreigner too, buddy.
>> Moron.
really mature response.
>> You're just as actively engaged in
>>finger-pointing - and not at the perps
>>themselves - as anyone else here. The parents
>>didn't kill 13+ people any more than the media >>did.
umm, i don't know where you come from but where i come from parents are responsible to a degree for the well being of their children. sure the kids are responsible for the shootings. now everyone is trying to damn everyone from the people who make rpg's to musicians. why aren't they asking where the parents were when the perps were stockpiling weapons for a year?
let me just add one thing. the children are responsible too. i don't think i made that clear. ultimately the kids who pulled the triggers are responsible for their actions. maybe that's why all the blame is going around. the kids are dead, so someone must be blamed.
does anyone notice how no one in america is responsible for their actions anymore? instead it's the fault of the media, of the violent video games, of the dark role playing game, of the music and/or of the kids friends. a parent ignores all the warning signs that they have a troubled child. the child finally lashes out. whose fault is it? of course it can't be the parents! it has to be those violent video games, violent movies, or offensive music. bah! so since it was the video games fault etc... anyone who plays that game is a suspected killer. heck, them geeks in their trenchcoats are weird anyway. they gotta be up to something.
america today is ripe with hypocrites. we have politicians who make big deals over other peoples affairs, when they've done the same themselves. we have people who under no circumstance should be allowed to raise kids raising them (or letting tv do so). after they've made a mess of their kids and the kids do something stupid, it's the media's fault. i'm so sick of people blaiming the media. GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEADS. IT'S BAD PARENTING, NOT THE MEDIA THAT IS TURNING YOUR KIDS INTO KILLERS.
I want to know how 2 sets of parents didn't notice their sons stockpiling weapons for a year. that's a dilly for you america.
so now the counsellors and school officials want to pick up the slack. great. last group you want to do that. they deal with so many kids, they cannot possibly know them all. so now were dealing with the results of their knee-jerk reaction to this all. trying to find their own trenchcoat mafiosos.
i know if any of those things in the article happened to me in school, my parents would have been at the school in 5 minutes to give the school official the third degree. they might have even brought a lawyer. that's what you're kids from the article need to do. the officials at their schools need a whack with a clue-by-four. just bring the lawyer and make it legal.
completely off topic, but at least as far as audio goes, i'd pick vacuum tubes (valves!) over transistors any day.
the guy who wrote the article was ignorant. the quote:
"The Internet was working swell on traditional Unix, Macintosh and Windows NT before Linux was much more than a glimmer in Linus' eye."
just proves he's an utter moron.
i am not a fan of handguns, but we started this trend by allowing shooting victims to sue gun makers. similar idea, just taken one step further.
joe
yeah, microsoft doesn't want windows to become fragmented. forbid that someone comes along and makes a compatible product. hell, that might mean....competition!
pinko.
hee hee hee monkeys hee hee hee
that image makes me smile.
something that microsoft's software doesn't do.
hey did anyone ever think of this? n't is how you usually shorten not in a contraction. leave out the apostrophe and you have nt! windows not. or better yet windows not server and windows not workstation. wow, what a descriptive name!
joe
i tried to email wsj with some facts. i used the email addy linked at the top of the article. it bounced back to me faster than a superball.
joe
poland is the country that gave you vodka and don't you forget it!
actually, since i live in nw indiana (lake county, as far north and west as you can get. specifically the "calumet region") i can tell you that we sure do spring forward and fall back.
it's the rest of indiana that's weird.
joe
most of indiana doesn't switch over either.