I've found that compiling mozilla yourself, omitting all the debugging stuff, the speed increases tremendously.
So did Netscape forget to remove their debug code when they released Netscape 6.0? Mozilla is slower than IE5. Netscape is slower than IE5. The memory footprint of NETSCP60.EXE on Windows 2000 is 3x the footprint of IE5. I don't think you can blame "debug code" for all of Netscape's problems.
Does he want to sell the suits or not? His ebay page points to his photos on animeigo.com. He must expect it to stand up against ebay traffic to sell his suits.
Or as Stewart Brand says (in How Buildings Learn : What Happens After They're Built) "Function melts form". Real users will bend any "grand" design forced upon them when it intefers with simply getting their work done. If Eazel's UI proves too cumbersome, power users will create themes to detour around annoying Eazel "features".
Doesn't the use of loops and functions to quicken the job of programing actualy slow down the process? for example... for a = 1 to 100 print $getline(a) increase A next a would be slower than... print $getline(1) print $getline(2) print $getline(3)...etc I would think not having to process the extra increase, and the if would speed it up. but also increase the size of the end program.
Looping code can improves a program's use of CPU cache. In your second code example, huge loops would require many sequential code pages to be paged in from disk. Much more expensive than saving a i++ loop counter..
The first, of course, is simple capitalism. The poor, starving people of the world don't have the funds to pay for food. This is one that both individuals and countries can resolve, if they find it in their hearts to want to.
The second is distribution. Getting the food to those poor, starving people is actually more complex yet. It's not as easy as writing a check, or even sending a ship full of food to their closest city. Remember the scandal in the 80's over all the food sent to Ethiopia and how little of it actually reached the people who needed it most?
Don't forget that during Ethiopia's "famine", the country was actually exporting food grown in Ethiopida to other countries! World hunger is a problem of distribution and money, not food.
It starts when junkie parents first feed food to their children. In the beginning, the food is free, but as an adult I gotta pay big bucks to continue my food habit!
Seriously, though, the people will stop them. That is, if they haven't yet been properly brainwashed by the Microsoft-AOL-Time-Warner owned media.
You are forgetting the majority of Americans admire "the brilliant" Bill Gates and think the DOJ should back down against Microsoft. These same Americans also make AOL the largest ISP. "It's so easy to use, no wonder it's #1!"
Since you know someone is watching you code, you cannot fool yourself that some lame hack will be OK because the other person will (presumably) call you on it!;)
If Theo is so afraid that others will steal his code, why does OpenBSD use BSD license? I imagine he cannot "relicense" the original BSD code under GPL, but perhaps he can GPL his new code..?
This reminds of a joke one of my CS graduate profs told about the "endo-kernel" (a pun on MIT's exo-kernel). The exokernel is an extreme microkernel operating system the provides direct hardware access for each application. The endo-kernel, however, runs its OS in micro-kernel userspace processes for protection and runs user apps in the kernel space for performance!;-)
I should point out before you get to into it that it won't build out of the box with Microsoft Visual C++. This is a known issue with some of the headers and templates and is expected to be fixed in the near future.
Thanks for the heads up. I've been looking for a "hobby project" recently. Considering MSVC is my compiler of choice (or least the dev environment with which I have most experience), perhaps I will explore these particular problems..:-)
I'm intrigued by ZooLib. I even downloaded the source code and I'm browsing it now. As a Windows developer, cross-platform compatibility is not my highest priority. However, I'm always looking for a way to simplify my code, to insert a well-architected layer between my C++ code and the grungy Win32 APIs.
The ZooLib approach looks promising because it creates idealized API. Unfortunately, it is a lot of code and there are few examples and no API docs! Where should I begin?
Windows folks will have a high quality free X server available. From there it's a simple jump to Gnome and KDE applications on Windows. That's the migration path.
Why would a Windows user want an X Server? Why would a Windows user want to migrate to Gnome? IT departments support Windows applications and no "migration" would realistically aim to dump those. I don't see the benefit for Windows users. They don't care about the GPL. They care about their hard work and data.. which happen to be in Windows apps.
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They chose to give her the sysadmin job, that's their fault. But she will feel their wrath (surprise!) when things don't work out.
This md5 scheme will break when Microsoft updates their site's look and feel. The MD5 hash will change when they rearrange their HTML layout or change IMG filenames.
I admit that was a unique denial of service attack using goatse.cx popup windows. I had to power cycle my computer to regain control!:-( Then IE forgot my desktop settings..
I think 1010011010's point was that plugins are new code, but NOT a new PROJECT. A newbie can create something new without the huge investment of creating a new project (such as makefiles, docs, mailing lists). Someone writing a plugin (such as an Apache or Linux module) has lots of example code and an existing community with which to learn and share.
Open source projects like Apache and Linux have blossomed specifically because they have a plugin architecture. I like to call this a "Christmas tree" architecture because new features the original designers never dreamt of can be added to the project, like hanging ornaments on a Christmas tree.;-)
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CORRECTED: You're the man. I surrender....d'oh sorry!
I've found that compiling mozilla yourself, omitting all the debugging stuff, the speed increases tremendously.
So did Netscape forget to remove their debug code when they released Netscape 6.0? Mozilla is slower than IE5. Netscape is slower than IE5. The memory footprint of NETSCP60.EXE on Windows 2000 is 3x the footprint of IE5. I don't think you can blame "debug code" for all of Netscape's problems.
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Apache is the only real innovation that's happened with open source/free software.
How is Apache innovative? Is it not a recreation of NCSA httpd? nuf said.
oh yeah!
Does he want to sell the suits or not? His ebay page points to his photos on animeigo.com. He must expect it to stand up against ebay traffic to sell his suits.
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Or as Stewart Brand says (in How Buildings Learn : What Happens After They're Built ) "Function melts form". Real users will bend any "grand" design forced upon them when it intefers with simply getting their work done. If Eazel's UI proves too cumbersome, power users will create themes to detour around annoying Eazel "features".
Doesn't the use of loops and functions to quicken the job of programing actualy slow down the process? for example... for a = 1 to 100 print $getline(a) increase A next a would be slower than... print $getline(1) print $getline(2) print $getline(3)...etc I would think not having to process the extra increase, and the if would speed it up. but also increase the size of the end program.
Looping code can improves a program's use of CPU cache. In your second code example, huge loops would require many sequential code pages to be paged in from disk. Much more expensive than saving a i++ loop counter..
I agree with you mostly, but I think voluntary euthanasia is acceptable.
The first, of course, is simple capitalism. The poor, starving people of the world don't have the funds to pay for food. This is one that both individuals and countries can resolve, if they find it in their hearts to want to.
The second is distribution. Getting the food to those poor, starving people is actually more complex yet. It's not as easy as writing a check, or even sending a ship full of food to their closest city. Remember the scandal in the 80's over all the food sent to Ethiopia and how little of it actually reached the people who needed it most?
Don't forget that during Ethiopia's "famine", the country was actually exporting food grown in Ethiopida to other countries! World hunger is a problem of distribution and money, not food.
It starts when junkie parents first feed food to their children. In the beginning, the food is free, but as an adult I gotta pay big bucks to continue my food habit!
Seriously, though, the people will stop them. That is, if they haven't yet been properly brainwashed by the Microsoft-AOL-Time-Warner owned media.
You are forgetting the majority of Americans admire "the brilliant" Bill Gates and think the DOJ should back down against Microsoft. These same Americans also make AOL the largest ISP. "It's so easy to use, no wonder it's #1!"
Since you know someone is watching you code, you cannot fool yourself that some lame hack will be OK because the other person will (presumably) call you on it! ;)
I'm surprised you could POST IN ALL CAPS.
If Theo is so afraid that others will steal his code, why does OpenBSD use BSD license? I imagine he cannot "relicense" the original BSD code under GPL, but perhaps he can GPL his new code..?
This reminds of a joke one of my CS graduate profs told about the "endo-kernel" (a pun on MIT's exo-kernel). The exokernel is an extreme microkernel operating system the provides direct hardware access for each application. The endo-kernel, however, runs its OS in micro-kernel userspace processes for protection and runs user apps in the kernel space for performance! ;-)
I should point out before you get to into it that it won't build out of the box with Microsoft Visual C++. This is a known issue with some of the headers and templates and is expected to be fixed in the near future.
:-)
Thanks for the heads up. I've been looking for a "hobby project" recently. Considering MSVC is my compiler of choice (or least the dev environment with which I have most experience), perhaps I will explore these particular problems..
I'm intrigued by ZooLib. I even downloaded the source code and I'm browsing it now. As a Windows developer, cross-platform compatibility is not my highest priority. However, I'm always looking for a way to simplify my code, to insert a well-architected layer between my C++ code and the grungy Win32 APIs.
The ZooLib approach looks promising because it creates idealized API. Unfortunately, it is a lot of code and there are few examples and no API docs! Where should I begin?
Windows folks will have a high quality free X server available. From there it's a simple jump to Gnome and KDE applications on Windows. That's the migration path.
Why would a Windows user want an X Server? Why would a Windows user want to migrate to Gnome? IT departments support Windows applications and no "migration" would realistically aim to dump those. I don't see the benefit for Windows users. They don't care about the GPL. They care about their hard work and data.. which happen to be in Windows apps.
They chose to give her the sysadmin job, that's their fault. But she will feel their wrath (surprise!) when things don't work out.
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This md5 scheme will break when Microsoft updates their site's look and feel. The MD5 hash will change when they rearrange their HTML layout or change IMG filenames.
I admit that was a unique denial of service attack using goatse.cx popup windows. I had to power cycle my computer to regain control! :-( Then IE forgot my desktop settings..
Big middle fingers to the AC!!!
You can write something new.
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I think 1010011010's point was that plugins are new code, but NOT a new PROJECT. A newbie can create something new without the huge investment of creating a new project (such as makefiles, docs, mailing lists). Someone writing a plugin (such as an Apache or Linux module) has lots of example code and an existing community with which to learn and share.
Open source projects like Apache and Linux have blossomed specifically because they have a plugin architecture. I like to call this a "Christmas tree" architecture because new features the original designers never dreamt of can be added to the project, like hanging ornaments on a Christmas tree.
Everyone on Slashdot knows that..