Baan company have changed their license policy four or five times the last three years. Every time the reason for the change was the same: Make more money. And every time the result was the same as well: They lost more money.
So changing to a GPL type of license could be the next logical step for Baan. They'll probably do it for the money, but they won't be able to make any money of it.
Uninteresting fact nr.5: Baan is the dutch word for job.
No, No! Someone spoke to him on the phone and said something to him which he thought should be written down. Unfortunatly his pc was just rebooting so he wrote it down. And what he wrote down was C++. A few days afterwards he came across that note again and there it was, the name he was looking for C#.
Granted, he did think about the Java, err C err Cpp err Cxx err ?
Strike 4: Not promising: "The new technology is seamless to the end-user because the compressed data can be uncompressed in nanoseconds when needed." Call me a pessimist, but memory right now is around 6ns for PC133. Now, assuming a very conservative 2ns to decode the data, that's 8ns, which is a 25% performance hit
What y'all seem to be missing is that the article mentions one other technique. It caches the most frequently asked words, uncompressed, at the front of the memory lane. Thus creating another level of caching. This would mean that those 2ns (if that really is the right number) would on average be much shorter.
Ofcourse, the OS implications could be quite considerable, but others have talked about that angle quite lenghty.
I know u posted an offtopic question, but IIRC the article mentions the doubling of 84GByte of ram. This is much more than the sum of all the memory in an average pc. So don't worry about a lame 64Mbyte ram on your videocard. It will be quite a while before ram-doubling will be economically interesting for those small amounts.
IBM has lots of experience with ram / dasd doubling on their mainframes. Keeping that in mind I have great confidence in them pulling this off.
And yes, if this ever comes to the desktop, then you could also have 4GBytes ram for the price of 2. 'Cause by the time it arrives, 2GByte of ram will be the feasible for the average PC.
... but the fact is a lot of people will get Slackware for their very first experience with Linux just because they see it on a store shelf somewhere and decide to try it out.
I noticed some posts in this story about that issue and I have to say AOL! AOL! (== me 2)
The reason I use slack is 'cause Suse 6.2 just wouldn't install. Even the naked installation of aaa_base failed on this particular PC. On other pc's everything went very smooth, but on this particular Kompack Pressario it just kept on producing segmentation error upon segmentation error.
So I got me 2 cd's from the net with slack and it worked. I can find everything, I get to know lots and lots about my hardware, etc...
Sorry for the Me2! amount in this post, but Slackware is the distribution for me!
Producing plastics is cheap - it's just fractional distillation and catalyzed reactions, neither of which take up much energy.
Please keep in mind that plastics are made from oil and thus decreasing our natural supply of oil. One way to compare fuel-consumption, ore-smelting and producing plastics is to use one common denominator. If oil is used for the ore-smelting, then TOE or Ton Oil Equivalent springs to mind.
Calculate how much oil is burned for energy and calculate how much oil is used to produce the plastics and you can compare them.
You're quit right. Slow computers are more user-friendly than fast computers. In an office environment, when you have to wait on your computer every now AND then, you won't have to work so hard, simply because you can't.
In the same way, MS Office products are very user friendly and avoid RSI by hanging every second hour or so. The required reboot takes about 10 minutes so of you go to the coffee machine for your required break.
Really Micros~1 is doing us a favour by BSOD'ing us every now and then.
Zaaf
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You might be more confident about Transmeta because of the technology. But think about it, when was the last time that technology mattered more than marketing when it comes to the big sells. There was the VHS vs BetaMax video thing as a famous example and ofcourse there was the OS/2 1.0 vs Windows 3.0 example. There are many cases when marketing matters and technology doesn't.
Even the Linux IPO's are more based on name-value and marketing than on technology. Why is it that the general public knows RedHat and doesn't know Slackware? It's Marketing.
Now answer the following simple question: Is the Intel marketing better or worse than the Transmeta Marketing?
Do not get me wrong, I like new technology, but it does need to sell.
You forgot the father language of all administrative processes, COBOL Here you can use both
COMPUTE x = x * 10 and MULTIPLY x BY 10 GIVING x [ON ERROR GO TO ]
Though I like COBOL I would not recommend it as a first language. It has the advantage of reading like English, but it lacks the visual environment for Windows / *nix. (This is not strictly true, but the graphical COBOLs are not common) ---
Since this comment is not about old Games it might be considerd OT. But, seeing that you are a/. poster and noting the/. sentiment towards Bill Gates, I feel inclined to mention the following:
Did you know that he wrote the basic interpreter for the C= 64? I learned a lot of 6510 assembly tricks from it, like how to re-re-re use code, fitting it in the least possible amount of memory.
I hate to disappoint you, but I remember having a Frogger[1] port for the C=64 that crashed all the time in the menu. Other programs were requiring the occasional hard reboot as well. Ofcourse the reboot only took up 2 seconds, but still it did hang.
I'm getting my upgrade (intel) in a couple of weeks. The main reason is that I'm getting into non-linear video editing and doing more and more in photoshop type products and they are getting very slow. I'm hoping a faster chip will remedy some of it. Granted, most of the time the CPU is doing nothing, but the times I have to wait for it to finish are getting more frequent and longer.
Hoping this will answer some of your questions regarding the world wide quest for speed.
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Baan company have changed their license policy four or five times the last three years. Every time the reason for the change was the same:
Make more money.
And every time the result was the same as well:
They lost more money.
So changing to a GPL type of license could be the next logical step for Baan. They'll probably do it for the money, but they won't be able to make any money of it.
Uninteresting fact nr.5: Baan is the dutch word for job.
Arjan Bos
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Gates thoughts...I'll call it Java, err C err C#!
No, No! Someone spoke to him on the phone and said something to him which he thought should be written down. Unfortunatly his pc was just rebooting so he wrote it down. And what he wrote down was C++. A few days afterwards he came across that note again and there it was, the name he was looking for C#.
Granted, he did think about the Java, err C err Cpp err Cxx err ?
Arjan Bos
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Strike 4: Not promising: "The new technology is seamless to the end-user because the compressed data can be uncompressed in nanoseconds when needed." Call me a pessimist, but memory right now is around 6ns for PC133. Now, assuming a very conservative 2ns to decode the data, that's 8ns, which is a 25% performance hit
What y'all seem to be missing is that the article mentions one other technique. It caches the most frequently asked words, uncompressed, at the front of the memory lane. Thus creating another level of caching.
This would mean that those 2ns (if that really is the right number) would on average be much shorter.
Ofcourse, the OS implications could be quite considerable, but others have talked about that angle quite lenghty.
Arjan Bos
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I know u posted an offtopic question, but IIRC the article mentions the doubling of 84GByte of ram. This is much more than the sum of all the memory in an average pc. So don't worry about a lame 64Mbyte ram on your videocard. It will be quite a while before ram-doubling will be economically interesting for those small amounts.
IBM has lots of experience with ram / dasd doubling on their mainframes. Keeping that in mind I have great confidence in them pulling this off.
And yes, if this ever comes to the desktop, then you could also have 4GBytes ram for the price of 2. 'Cause by the time it arrives, 2GByte of ram will be the feasible for the average PC.
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... but the fact is a lot of people will get Slackware for their very first experience with Linux just because they see it on a store shelf somewhere and decide to try it out.
I noticed some posts in this story about that issue and I have to say AOL! AOL! (== me 2)
The reason I use slack is 'cause Suse 6.2 just wouldn't install. Even the naked installation of aaa_base failed on this particular PC. On other pc's everything went very smooth, but on this particular Kompack Pressario it just kept on producing segmentation error upon segmentation error.
So I got me 2 cd's from the net with slack and it worked. I can find everything, I get to know lots and lots about my hardware, etc...
Sorry for the Me2! amount in this post, but Slackware is the distribution for me!
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Producing plastics is cheap - it's just fractional distillation and catalyzed reactions, neither of which take up much energy.
Please keep in mind that plastics are made from oil and thus decreasing our natural supply of oil. One way to compare fuel-consumption, ore-smelting and producing plastics is to use one common denominator. If oil is used for the ore-smelting, then TOE or Ton Oil Equivalent springs to mind.
Calculate how much oil is burned for energy and calculate how much oil is used to produce the plastics and you can compare them.
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For your 6502 linux you might want to take a look at Lunix
It is a development for the C=64. Maybe you could port it to the 6502?
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Of course, by that argument, my C64 is an IA too.
Well, it has a serial RS232 port you can use to connect a modem to. And IIRC there is a HTML-browser for it, so in theory you could call it an IA.
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You're quit right.
Slow computers are more user-friendly than fast computers. In an office environment, when you have to wait on your computer every now AND then, you won't have to work so hard, simply because you can't.
In the same way, MS Office products are very user friendly and avoid RSI by hanging every second hour or so. The required reboot takes about 10 minutes so of you go to the coffee machine for your required break.
Really Micros~1 is doing us a favour by BSOD'ing us every now and then.
Zaaf
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You might be more confident about Transmeta because of the technology. But think about it, when was the last time that technology mattered more than marketing when it comes to the big sells.
There was the VHS vs BetaMax video thing as a famous example and ofcourse there was the OS/2 1.0 vs Windows 3.0 example. There are many cases when marketing matters and technology doesn't.
Even the Linux IPO's are more based on name-value and marketing than on technology. Why is it that the general public knows RedHat and doesn't know Slackware?
It's Marketing.
Now answer the following simple question:
Is the Intel marketing better or worse than the Transmeta Marketing?
Do not get me wrong, I like new technology, but it does need to sell.
Zaaf
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You forgot the father language of all administrative processes, COBOL
Here you can use both
COMPUTE x = x * 10
and
MULTIPLY x BY 10 GIVING x [ON ERROR GO TO ]
Though I like COBOL I would not recommend it as a first language. It has the advantage of reading like English, but it lacks the visual environment for Windows / *nix.
(This is not strictly true, but the graphical COBOLs are not common)
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Since this comment is not about old Games it might be considerd OT. But, seeing that you are a /. poster and noting the /. sentiment towards Bill Gates, I feel inclined to mention the following:
Did you know that he wrote the basic interpreter for the C= 64? I learned a lot of 6510 assembly tricks from it, like how to re-re-re use code, fitting it in the least possible amount of memory.
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But when did programs crash? Never
I hate to disappoint you, but I remember having a Frogger[1] port for the C=64 that crashed all the time in the menu. Other programs were requiring the occasional hard reboot as well. Ofcourse the reboot only took up 2 seconds, but still it did hang.
[1] SEGA(c)
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I'm getting my upgrade (intel) in a couple of weeks. The main reason is that I'm getting into non-linear video editing and doing more and more in photoshop type products and they are getting very slow.
I'm hoping a faster chip will remedy some of it.
Granted, most of the time the CPU is doing nothing, but the times I have to wait for it to finish are getting more frequent and longer.
Hoping this will answer some of your questions regarding the world wide quest for speed.
Arjan Bos
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