If only Republicans and Democrats are electors for the EC, you are NEVER going to get a 3rd party candidate to win! The deck is so heavily stacked against it. It is utterly ridiculous.
They are under zero obligation to vote for the popular candidate. As is common in the House and Senate, they will fall in line with the party, and vote thusly.
I don't see how you aren't making the connection here. I'm not trying to be insulting, I apologize if I'm coming off as such, I'm just trying to be realistic.
It's not gonna happen unless major changes in the election process happen.
You must have a lot of blind faith in the people you elect.
"If you haven't read the latest edition of my Blind Loyalty booklet, you need to do so and then you will fully understand that we really have no idea of who is getting elected in this country at any level. The facts speak for themselves. If these electoral college delegates, or electors as they are called, allegedly cast their vote for a candidate according to the popular vote which comes in electronically, then that vote is being manipulated by our rigged elections.
If an electoral college delegate is under no obligation or restriction, which they aren't, to cast their vote according to the popular vote results coming in, who do you think a Republican or Democrat electoral college delegate will vote for- a Reform Party candidate for President? In a pig's ear. "
The key is getting 3rd part electoral college delegates in there. Until then, a vote for a 3rd party candidate for President is a wasted vote.
I ask you this: Where did all those votes get Ross Perot, besides on a Trivial Pursuit question?
This isn't flamebait, but you all should know full well that a third-party candidate can NOT win in an electoral college system. It will never happen.
I support the idea that people will go out and vote for Nader, he's my first choice as well, but to me it's more important to keep someone like Bush out of office than it is to register my protest vote this time around. Bush is simply too stupid, and too dangerous to be in the White House.
Hemos said it right. A vote for Nader is a vote for Bush.
There's no nude pics of her, and I lost the url or the pics she does have.. some BSD zealot probably has them, and she actually reads Slashdot, so I'll leave it up to one of them to post a URL or something.:)
Does anyone remember the name of the game where you were this warrior, 2-d scroller, walked down the hallway with this shield, which you could turn into the SUPER MEGA SHIELD by slamming the joystick up and down repeatedly, and you fought other warriors at the end, knocking parts of their armor off until you hit a vital point?
I remember trying to stay on the level with the chick as the boss for as long as possible, and trying to remove all of her armor. I can't remember the name of the game for the life of me, but I would spend my entire allowance there, in an attempt to see mostly naked video game chicks.
The name of the link, "partners", seems pretty self-explanatory to me. It's for partners of the NYTimes, which I would be fairly confident Slashdot is not one. I assume this is so other news outlets or "partners" of the NYTimes can link to their articles without the registration info.
Is it a stupid way of doing it? Yeah, since there's no authentication check to see where they are coming from. Does that alone make the theft of their service right? That's where I disagree.
Just because a car is unlocked and has the keys in it doesn't give you the right to drive off with it.
I don't know.. I see both sides of this, and it all comes down to morals, which are in serious decline in this society anyway. They provide a service, and in return for that service, they ask for some information. Not even $, just information. I don't see the big deal.
As a webmaster myself, I would be ticked off if I offered services requiring registration, and people got around it, viewing my content for essentially nothing. But then again, I'd probably be smart enough to have some kind of check in there at the very least.
Reminds me all of the Dilbert comic:
"What do our customers want?"
"High quality products for free."
What makes you think you have a right to view that content for free? You know full well that link is not intended for you, or most likely anyone else reading this board.
Typical Slashdot.. I shouldn't be surprised, but everytime I see this it just strikes a nerve. If you want that information, be courteous enough to give them the registration info for it. But far be it from anyone on Slashdot to do that..
.. go ahead, mod it down now, that's what happened last time.:\
I -want- Nader elected.
It's not going to happen, period, due to the system.
So I'll vote for Gore, who I'm kinda eh about, but I certainly don't want Bush in office. My voting for Gore does more to keep Bush out of office than my vote for Nader would do to get him IN office (which would be, zero).
Hell, when I was at GMU 3 years ago, their usenet feed carried alt.sex.stories (and a slew of binary porn newsgroups as well). I believe it still does, as I went back for a class 6 months ago, and to my delight it was still there.:)
For tech workers, according to a new study by the CDI Corporation and MIT's Sloan School of Management, new kinds of companies and new technologies like the Net are sparking a reinvention of work, a flexible kind of workplace that the study's authors call "me-commerce."
me-commerce?
this industry has the most fucking ANNOYING acronyms.
e-this, e-that, i-this, i-that, me-commerce, information superhighway, dot in dot com, jesus christ, THEY ALL SUCK.
It's AOL's R&D dollars that went into it.
It's AOL's servers.
It's THEIR GODDAMN APPLICATION.
So what makes you think that they should just open up and give MS (or anyone else) access to it? Why should other companies reap the benefits of AOL's R&D? Just because they were successful?
That's -bullshit-.
No one has a god-given right to be able to talk to it with any client they decide to build.
Still, the penalty is too high. A lot of cases are vandalism. Kids wanting to show that they can hack a server, or get some sort of message out. But in the end, it's just vandalism, but it's being treated like it's something waaaay more serious.. spending years in jail for defacing a website is ludicrous, when vandalism is simply a fine.
Say I am looking to buy a Coke somewhere.. if I see 2 stores, one with graffiti all over it, and one clean and nice-looking, I'll probably head to the latter to get my coke.
All communications over the internet intended for the general public should be free and open standards even if the exact source code of a given program isn't free. This goes for RealPlayer and Winblows Media Player as well as AIM and their ilk.
I'm sorry, but my hot chats with my girlfriend are not meant for the general public. I believe they have sex sites for that, if that's your thing.
Slashdot Mirror
YES IT DOES.
If only Republicans and Democrats are electors for the EC, you are NEVER going to get a 3rd party candidate to win! The deck is so heavily stacked against it. It is utterly ridiculous.
They are under zero obligation to vote for the popular candidate. As is common in the House and Senate, they will fall in line with the party, and vote thusly.
I don't see how you aren't making the connection here. I'm not trying to be insulting, I apologize if I'm coming off as such, I'm just trying to be realistic.
It's not gonna happen unless major changes in the election process happen.
It's hardly a conspiracy.
You must have a lot of blind faith in the people you elect.
"If you haven't read the latest edition of my Blind Loyalty booklet, you need to do so and then you will fully understand that we really have no idea of who is getting elected in this country at any level. The facts speak for themselves. If these electoral college delegates, or electors as they are called, allegedly cast their vote for a candidate according to the popular vote which comes in electronically, then that vote is being manipulated by our rigged elections.
If an electoral college delegate is under no obligation or restriction, which they aren't, to cast their vote according to the popular vote results coming in, who do you think a Republican or Democrat electoral college delegate will vote for- a Reform Party candidate for President? In a pig's ear. "
The key is getting 3rd part electoral college delegates in there. Until then, a vote for a 3rd party candidate for President is a wasted vote.
I ask you this: Where did all those votes get Ross Perot, besides on a Trivial Pursuit question?
Read that link I posted, it's explained pretty well there.
I'm not a history buff, so I can't really comment on those.
I do recommend you read this however:
http://www.devvy.com/thrdprty_200003 03. html
There's a fundamental difference.
Your election in Minnesota was not an electoral college voting system. This is why a third party candidate has no chance of winning.
Why are you bothering.
This isn't flamebait, but you all should know full well that a third-party candidate can NOT win in an electoral college system. It will never happen.
I support the idea that people will go out and vote for Nader, he's my first choice as well, but to me it's more important to keep someone like Bush out of office than it is to register my protest vote this time around. Bush is simply too stupid, and too dangerous to be in the White House.
Hemos said it right. A vote for Nader is a vote for Bush.
Here we go.. only found 1 pic searching on google..
link
Kinda blurry, but any chick dressing up in a devil costume that's a geek to boot has my vote.
There's no nude pics of her, and I lost the url or the pics she does have.. some BSD zealot probably has them, and she actually reads Slashdot, so I'll leave it up to one of them to post a URL or something. :)
I think we should go for the naked BSD chick, myself.
Does anyone remember the name of the game where you were this warrior, 2-d scroller, walked down the hallway with this shield, which you could turn into the SUPER MEGA SHIELD by slamming the joystick up and down repeatedly, and you fought other warriors at the end, knocking parts of their armor off until you hit a vital point?
I remember trying to stay on the level with the chick as the boss for as long as possible, and trying to remove all of her armor. I can't remember the name of the game for the life of me, but I would spend my entire allowance there, in an attempt to see mostly naked video game chicks.
I blame my parents.
The name of the link, "partners", seems pretty self-explanatory to me. It's for partners of the NYTimes, which I would be fairly confident Slashdot is not one. I assume this is so other news outlets or "partners" of the NYTimes can link to their articles without the registration info.
:(
Is it a stupid way of doing it? Yeah, since there's no authentication check to see where they are coming from. Does that alone make the theft of their service right? That's where I disagree.
Just because a car is unlocked and has the keys in it doesn't give you the right to drive off with it.
I don't know.. I see both sides of this, and it all comes down to morals, which are in serious decline in this society anyway. They provide a service, and in return for that service, they ask for some information. Not even $, just information. I don't see the big deal.
As a webmaster myself, I would be ticked off if I offered services requiring registration, and people got around it, viewing my content for essentially nothing. But then again, I'd probably be smart enough to have some kind of check in there at the very least.
Reminds me all of the Dilbert comic:
"What do our customers want?"
"High quality products for free."
Such is the way of the Internet.
Does this piss anyone else off?
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What makes you think you have a right to view that content for free? You know full well that link is not intended for you, or most likely anyone else reading this board.
Typical Slashdot.. I shouldn't be surprised, but everytime I see this it just strikes a nerve. If you want that information, be courteous enough to give them the registration info for it. But far be it from anyone on Slashdot to do that..
.. go ahead, mod it down now, that's what happened last time.
Why would Macromedia sue Adobe over it's car made out of clay, anyway?
When Minnesota starts holding elections in a electoral college format, you let me know.
You are incorrect.
I -want- Nader elected.
It's not going to happen, period, due to the system.
So I'll vote for Gore, who I'm kinda eh about, but I certainly don't want Bush in office. My voting for Gore does more to keep Bush out of office than my vote for Nader would do to get him IN office (which would be, zero).
Yeah, you could vote for Nader.
You could also throw your vote into a black hole. End result is the same.
He won't win in an electorial college system.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Perot had about 20% of the popular vote back in 1992. From what I'm reading right now, he got zippy electorial votes.
Read this for some more information.
Don't get me wrong. I love Nader, and would be happy to see him in office. I also realize that's not going to happen, and will vote for the less evil.
Hell, when I was at GMU 3 years ago, their usenet feed carried alt.sex.stories (and a slew of binary porn newsgroups as well). I believe it still does, as I went back for a class 6 months ago, and to my delight it was still there. :)
Shh!
LUNIX LUNIX LUNIX!!
http://www.somethingawful.com /features/usarfreindley/
Yeah, seriously. If my friends or myself ever used those terms, it's in a sarcastic joking manner.
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e! e! e!
my last name is Day, so my so-called-friends now call me eDay. I think one of them even made a logo in the ebay style.
They will be first against the wall when the revolution comes.
ok it's not an acronym. my bad. but whatever the hell it is, i hate it.
For tech workers, according to a new study by the CDI Corporation and MIT's Sloan School of Management, new kinds of companies and new technologies like the Net are sparking a reinvention of work, a flexible kind of workplace that the study's authors call "me-commerce."
me-commerce?
this industry has the most fucking ANNOYING acronyms.
e-this, e-that, i-this, i-that, me-commerce, information superhighway, dot in dot com, jesus christ, THEY ALL SUCK.
:\
Whatever.
The facts are:
It's AOL's R&D dollars that went into it.
It's AOL's servers.
It's THEIR GODDAMN APPLICATION.
So what makes you think that they should just open up and give MS (or anyone else) access to it? Why should other companies reap the benefits of AOL's R&D? Just because they were successful?
That's -bullshit-.
No one has a god-given right to be able to talk to it with any client they decide to build.
Jesus H. Christ. Use some common sense.
Still, the penalty is too high. A lot of cases are vandalism. Kids wanting to show that they can hack a server, or get some sort of message out. But in the end, it's just vandalism, but it's being treated like it's something waaaay more serious.. spending years in jail for defacing a website is ludicrous, when vandalism is simply a fine.
Say I am looking to buy a Coke somewhere.. if I see 2 stores, one with graffiti all over it, and one clean and nice-looking, I'll probably head to the latter to get my coke.
All communications over the internet intended for the general public should be free and open standards even if the exact source code of a given program isn't free. This goes for RealPlayer and Winblows Media Player as well as AIM and their ilk.
I'm sorry, but my hot chats with my girlfriend are not meant for the general public. I believe they have sex sites for that, if that's your thing.
Please show me proof that they have gone and stifled Microsoft's messaging client, Yahoo's messaging client, or any other.