Maybe I'm just stupid, but what in the hell does 'dumping' a browser and driving Netscape out of busines have to do with a monopoly in the OS market.
Netscape sucked, it always sucked, and IE was just plain better. Netscape was charging for something that wasn't considered as good as browser you could get for free.
But, bottom line, Netscape was a browser company. Everyone says that they scared MS by possibly becoming an OS threat, but what proof that is there?
Check the figures. Long Distance cost have sank, but local service has risen. Does anyone know why? Because when AT&T was one big company, they ran the local service at a loss, and kept it afloat with the money from the LD. When they split, LD went down (no longer supporting the Local Service, nor the copper infrastructure) and local service went up (nobody to support them anymore)
Costs remain the same, you are just paying in the same areas now. Think also when local phone company finds problem inside your house and changes you $50/half hour for finding it. That didn't used to happen.
Now, apply this to Splitting MS up, and think about what happens when Windows 2000 drops by $200/copy, and all of the apps go up. (And the start charging for IE, including the Linux port everyone wants)
Or would you? If the OS is the backbone monopoly of the company would the possible Apps Company had the cash-flow to put money into developing the Apps for the other OS's.
Especially since, no matter what you say, any OS version of any Apps isn't going to sell 1/10th of what the Windows Apps would sell.
Plus, they will be too busy writing Apps for the 27 different flavors of Windows now that the code has been relesed and forked over and over.
Welcome everyone, to the Good Thing(tm) that you all want to happen.
Not really. Interested fact, even thought Cisco is the 500 pound gorilla of the networking market, Microsofts network is mostly Fore Systems based (now a Marconi company). Big people in the ATM market (which Cisco has NOT been known to be a real winner in till the past few years. Bay Networks/Nortel was really struggling in this market till they were bought by Nortel)
Actually, I think he was thinking of CDP (Cisco Discovery Protocol) But, I can tell you that it makes Cisco routers FAR from plug-n-play. It simply allows Cisco routers to "see" each other across a working physical layer. If you plug two Cisco routers together acorss a corssover cable, and bring up the interfaces, they will see each other. At that point, everything still needs to be configured by hand. It simply allows you to see that everything is cool in the physical end.
Basicly, if you configure routers, and they don't talk, but they can see each other via CDP, you know its your configuration and not the equipment or the connection.
Exactly.. This isn't a case of deciding NOT to pay the fee, left the port in your room unactivated, and 'borrow' connection from someone elses room. This is a case of limited number of rooms having connections, and some dorms having no connections, except for computer labs.
They obviously have the right to use the connection, the article even said people would take thier computers down to the connection. They didn't steal anything.
If the university is haveing that much of a problem paying for wiring dorms, charge a little extra. My god, the 'normal' cost for a drop is $200 (industry norm). Bump up the dorm fee by $50 per semester, and you have it paying for itself in a couple years.. Some colleges just don't give a shit enough yet.
A university I am doing some work for up here in Michigan has the right idea. They worked out a deal with AT&T becuase they couldn't afford to wire the dorms. AT&T is putting in new cable system with Cable Modem availabilty. University get's access in the dorms without a cost. AT&T get's the higher fees of digital cable for some people, and Cable Modem fees (You got to figure they will have a 50% or higher rental rate in the dorms) and the kids get the high speed access, without having the university contolling what they have.
Please don't look at this a 'another artist struggling against MP3's for his hard-earned money'. Paul McCartney is work about $900Million currently, it's not becuase of music he's written. He's invested heavily in other people music catalogs (i.e. Buddy Holly) and makes money from the publishing of and distribution of those songs. To put this even more into the arena of businessman and not artist, he does NOT own the writes to most of the Beatles songs, so music that he's most known for, he doesn't make squat from anymore. (Micheal Jackson owns most of the Beatles music catalog, anothter example of someone who has more of a bussiness then artist interest in MP3's)
So don't view Paul as someone who is defending the inspiration and sweat of the songs he wrote, he's as bad as the MPAA itself, only worried about the money he makes, or might NOT make from lost sales from MP3's
Then again, if I only had $900Million, I'd be worried about making ends meet too..
I'm not sure if this has any bearing on this case or not, but it's a question that popped into my head.
From a legal standpoint, do we really "own" domains? After all, if you own something, you don't have to continue to pay for it. We pay for domains on a year to year basis, and therefore, I would see our relationship with domains to be more of a lease, with the lease length being how long we've paid for.
Does anyone have any knowledge of how the courts view this? I started to do a little research, but frankly, I have a cisco test tomarrow, and can't get too sidetracked with this..
Hypothetical device? That's strange, seeing I've worked with brouters before. Back when not all routers could bridge, there waa a clear destinction between routers and brouters. Now that all routers can bridge, nobody bothers with the labeling, and calls them all routers.
Thicknet? Seems like that's important, as there are still many sites using thicknet. The manufacturing industry still has a large installed base in plants.
And if you really knew your networking, you would know that the only difference between a bridge and a switch is the number of ports. But, this IS an OS certification, not a networking cert.
Before you go off spouting how much you know about networking, show a hardware networking cert. Comparing a bunch of networking questions with a bunch of OS relate questions doesn't quite gel.
Maybe YOU don't get it. This isn't a company web-site, or the newest e-commerence website. This is his PERSONAL website, and he doesn't have to do a damn thing he doesn't want to. He doesn't have to cater to anybody.
If people like you are going to start venting and blatting about how people write the HTML code in personal websites, and rant on and on in a public forum, then maybe this world has gotten just a little to anal about stuff, and people should learn the first rule of society.
Alrighty, I'm not doubting this, but I have one question:
How would your brain KNOW it's not seeing things upside down. The reversing of the projected retina image is built in. It's a programed function to the construction of the eye. But if you wear the glasses that 'pre-flips' the image, sure, it's not the upside down on the retina (according to the normal way) but how would the brain know this? It's just an image.
If I took a picture of a pencil laying on a table, shooting straight down at it, and gave you the picture upside down, how would you know. You don't.
Copters will alwasy be used for 'on the scene' reporting, but systems like permenant traffic monitoring systems, and these proposed cell systems, will be used to monitor the areas to know where to send traffic copters. They can't be everywhere at once, so they need some sort of system to alert them to problems.
Isn't it interesting that: A) Bob Metcalfe was one of the main figures behing the development of Ethernet @ Xerox/PARC. B) Metcalfe left Xerox to start 3Com. C) 3Com now owns the Palm product line. D)..and NOW, Xerox decides to sue 3Com over the handwriting patent.
Maybe there's nothing behind it, maybe there is, but it does seem a little bit.... strange..
From what I've read, the contract clearle stated that Cali and Or residents could cancel without repayment. This wasn't a 'loophole', this was a clearly stated, written out, clause.
You can only blame MS for thinking that people would want to stay with MSN. Let's face it people. $400 is $400, and only a fool would give pass up on a chance for $400 for free.
This will probably get moderated down, but who cares.
The whining around here has reached a level I have not found since I was last in 1st grade. Everybody has a better way of doing it, a bitch about this, a whine about that. It's really simple.
- Releasing source code. The software's #1 purpose is to run slashdot. This is a business, they are employed by a company, and the #1 goal is the keep slashdot running, and to tweak the code as needed. Everything else is secondary. There are good business reasons for not releasing it yet. Security being one. And everyone getting bent out of shape about the tech support comment. Everyones answer was A) We're smarter then that, and B) dont' do the mod_perl / apache support. He doesn't care about the 20% that don't need support, he cares about the 80% that do, and would ask. Not doing the support is easy, wading thru the stupid email is not.
Moderating suggestions. We have that already. The stories that get submitted more get higher posting ratios. Less submissions, less priority. Turning it over to the masses completely would ruin that whole thing. You came here for thier viewpoints, if you don't like that method anymore, theres the door. Run your own site.
It's real simple people. If you don't like it, do it yourself the way you think it should be done. Write your own software, open your own site, do it your way. But, remember, they built it, and they have a RIGHT, yes, a friggen RIGHT, to do it thier way.
So, Grow Up, quit yer whining, or get the hell out.
Now, let the killing of this post by this who it addresses begin.
A) You don't run/., so you don't get to decide what goes on/. If you want some sort of editorial control, put up your own page. And, if you have, worry about what is posted on there, not on here.
B)/. is for US, not for YOU. As long as some of US like it, and appricate the posting, everything is cool. Sometimes YOU are part of US, and sometimes you are part of THEM. If you are part of THEM that don't like a post, remember again, it was posted for US.
Remember, it is always easier to tell someone how they should run thier page then just to do it yourself.
That's a good point. For example, with Standard Oil, the gas stations purchase the oil and gas through Stand...wait, they purchased it direct from the Standard Oil. Because, even if the end user was a comsumer, so what the owners of the stations themselve, and if anything, they were the ones being hurt. Opps, that was a bad example.
Let's use AT&T. Comsumers purchase the services.. uhh..oh, they purchased the services directly from AT&T.
How do you defined purchased. SOMEONE has to purchase directly. They are consumers also. The potential monopoly affects all levels of the chain.
Give them a way out? Perhaps this a offshoot of the "sue 'em" way of thinking today, but anti-trust laws are not a way of providing conduits for class-action lawsuits. They may be protected from the money-hungry lawyers (yeah, those lawyers are ONLY concerned with the purchaing public, not lining thier own pockets),but they still aren't protected from any punishment that the courts themselves decided to lay upon them.
I'm not sure, maybe it's just me, but hear me out here.
Everyone is talking about splitting up Windows (various verions of Windows) and splitting up Microsoft themselves, but maybe I'm of the the few people who have been around this land of computers to realize where this could be heading.
There usedt to be a dozen different hardware platforms, and each was totally incompatible with the other. Life was hell. Sure, you may argue that 90% of us are on the Intel platform now, and to hell with the rest of them (just kidding.) but how about the TRS-80.. There was TRS-DOS, and NEWDOW, and SmartDOS, and they each had thier own little tricks, and still there were various versions of everything. It stunk.
Then the world mostly settled on the IBM, and mostly on MSDOS/Windows after a dozen years. As life gets simpler, and little apps become more easy to find becuase developers don't have to spread thier talent, life is easier.
I for one, don't want to see everything split again. Win2002 doesn't come with defrager again, because that's an app, and I have to purchase that seperate. Oh, that's a cool utility, but it don't work on my flavor of windows, it's for A-Windows, and I run B-Windows.
Talk all you want about standards, and about choice. We made the choice 15 years ago. Why do we have to make it again.
Fine the company, slap some restrictions on them, and let's get on with life.
That's a very good point. Creating problems like that, with the intent of breaking other software, would NOT drive people away from Notes to Exchange, but would drive people away from NT toward other OS's to run Notes on.
Come on people. Microsoft isn't anyone to defend, but everyone here is starting to appear as the typical anti-MS zelots. This type of stuff destroys our credibility, and does nothing but make us look like bigoted fools.
--knick
..my car blew a headgasket, and it has to be MS's fault, becuase the auto company uses NT to run the servers that the engine designers saved thier meeting minutes on. DAMN YOU MICROSOFT!!!!..
My GOD! How could be be so stupid!! I can't believe that we really thought that it was the Boy Scouts, and that we really didn't check out the link before posting such ill-researched drivel.
I'm sure that nobody on/. are the type of people to enjoy the distruction of life or property in Florida, and that was obviously not the intent of this webcam.
Simple facts:
- WE did not put this cam up, residents of florida did. They put it up in THIER house./. had no control over the installation of this webcam, they simply let everyone else know about it. The only way that we could know about it is if the people who installed it in THIER house told others about it.
- I respect what you are going to go thru. I would not wish it upon anybody. But the fact is that it's going to happen. And speaking for most of us (if I may be so bold) we have never experienced a hurricane, and hopfully, never will. But, I have to admit, I'm curious to watch this hit. I would be just has happy if it didn't hit, and no damage was done. But, we can't change the fate of nature, and if we can watch it and learn to respect something we will never experience, what's the harm. We are not going to make it worse. Hell, maybe this will help people respect what is happening down there and help with relief efforts.
- I'm also sure you have never watched a picture or a movie of twisters, earthquakes, fires, or other nature disasters. We, as a people, are more knowledgable of the world events around us, and have more compassion about those who go thru such this, then ever before in the history of the world. And a big part of this is becuase we have the ability to watch this happen now, make it real for us.
In other words, we don't wish this upon you, we hope the best for everyone who will be affect by this, and we hope to learn by being able to watch. But, I'm sure that if there was a person staying with this webcam, we would certainly feel totally different about his, and would not be watching this.
Good luck to all of you in Florida, we will be watching.
this is portable.. It's not a problem to build a system to be able to put into your card, but a system to be able to carry with you? With 10Sec buffering, it will easily playing while traveling.
For $300, you can move it from car to car, take it to the gym, and use it at home.
Burners are dropping in price, and the media is dirt cheap now. No longer an excuse.
Of course, you have to remember that there was ALOT more film shot then we saw. 3 people in the woods for 8 days, they probably shot a crap-load of footage, and then edited through to make the final film.
Also, the figure, as others have noted, was closer to $20,000, not $40,000, so you are looking at a figure of 50%.
I guess the real question comes down to this: You are a 16mm filmaker, but how many full-length released 16mm films have you made?
Slashdot Mirror
They've been doing this stuff LONG before Andover.net, and will be doing it long after this.
Some things never change, Thank God.
Maybe I'm just stupid, but what in the hell does 'dumping' a browser and driving Netscape out of busines have to do with a monopoly in the OS market.
Netscape sucked, it always sucked, and IE was just plain better. Netscape was charging for something that wasn't considered as good as browser you could get for free.
But, bottom line, Netscape was a browser company. Everyone says that they scared MS by possibly becoming an OS threat, but what proof that is there?
Linux is the OS threat, not Netscape.
Just a little note on the AT&T breakup.
Check the figures. Long Distance cost have sank, but local service has risen. Does anyone know why? Because when AT&T was one big company, they ran the local service at a loss, and kept it afloat with the money from the LD. When they split, LD went down (no longer supporting the Local Service, nor the copper infrastructure) and local service went up (nobody to support them anymore)
Costs remain the same, you are just paying in the same areas now. Think also when local phone company finds problem inside your house and changes you $50/half hour for finding it. That didn't used to happen.
Now, apply this to Splitting MS up, and think about what happens when Windows 2000 drops by $200/copy, and all of the apps go up. (And the start charging for IE, including the Linux port everyone wants)
Or would you? If the OS is the backbone monopoly of the company would the possible Apps Company had the cash-flow to put money into developing the Apps for the other OS's.
Especially since, no matter what you say, any OS version of any Apps isn't going to sell 1/10th of what the Windows Apps would sell.
Plus, they will be too busy writing Apps for the 27 different flavors of Windows now that the code has been relesed and forked over and over.
Welcome everyone, to the Good Thing(tm) that you all want to happen.
God forbide you remember the Netscape had a couple year head start.
Nah, that would be an Anti-Slashdot thing to say.
Not really. Interested fact, even thought Cisco is the 500 pound gorilla of the networking market, Microsofts network is mostly Fore Systems based (now a Marconi company). Big people in the ATM market (which Cisco has NOT been known to be a real winner in till the past few years. Bay Networks/Nortel was really struggling in this market till they were bought by Nortel)
Actually, I think he was thinking of CDP (Cisco Discovery Protocol) But, I can tell you that it makes Cisco routers FAR from plug-n-play. It simply allows Cisco routers to "see" each other across a working physical layer. If you plug two Cisco routers together acorss a corssover cable, and bring up the interfaces, they will see each other. At that point, everything still needs to be configured by hand. It simply allows you to see that everything is cool in the physical end.
Basicly, if you configure routers, and they don't talk, but they can see each other via CDP, you know its your configuration and not the equipment or the connection.
Plug-n-play, God, I wish.
--knick
Exactly.. This isn't a case of deciding NOT to pay the fee, left the port in your room unactivated, and 'borrow' connection from someone elses room. This is a case of limited number of rooms having connections, and some dorms having no connections, except for computer labs.
They obviously have the right to use the connection, the article even said people would take thier computers down to the connection. They didn't steal anything.
If the university is haveing that much of a problem paying for wiring dorms, charge a little extra. My god, the 'normal' cost for a drop is $200 (industry norm). Bump up the dorm fee by $50 per semester, and you have it paying for itself in a couple years.. Some colleges just don't give a shit enough yet.
A university I am doing some work for up here in Michigan has the right idea. They worked out a deal with AT&T becuase they couldn't afford to wire the dorms. AT&T is putting in new cable system with Cable Modem availabilty. University get's access in the dorms without a cost. AT&T get's the higher fees of digital cable for some people, and Cable Modem fees (You got to figure they will have a 50% or higher rental rate in the dorms) and the kids get the high speed access, without having the university contolling what they have.
Everyone wins.
--knick
Please don't look at this a 'another artist struggling against MP3's for his hard-earned money'. Paul McCartney is work about $900Million currently, it's not becuase of music he's written. He's invested heavily in other people music catalogs (i.e. Buddy Holly) and makes money from the publishing of and distribution of those songs. To put this even more into the arena of businessman and not artist, he does NOT own the writes to most of the Beatles songs, so music that he's most known for, he doesn't make squat from anymore. (Micheal Jackson owns most of the Beatles music catalog, anothter example of someone who has more of a bussiness then artist interest in MP3's)
So don't view Paul as someone who is defending the inspiration and sweat of the songs he wrote, he's as bad as the MPAA itself, only worried about the money he makes, or might NOT make from lost sales from MP3's
Then again, if I only had $900Million, I'd be worried about making ends meet too..
--knick
I'm not sure if this has any bearing on this case or not, but it's a question that popped into my head.
From a legal standpoint, do we really "own" domains? After all, if you own something, you don't have to continue to pay for it. We pay for domains on a year to year basis, and therefore, I would see our relationship with domains to be more of a lease, with the lease length being how long we've paid for.
Does anyone have any knowledge of how the courts view this? I started to do a little research, but frankly, I have a cisco test tomarrow, and can't get too sidetracked with this..
--knick
Couple of points...
Hypothetical device? That's strange, seeing I've worked with brouters before. Back when not all routers could bridge, there waa a clear destinction between routers and brouters. Now that all routers can bridge, nobody bothers with the labeling, and calls them all routers.
Thicknet? Seems like that's important, as there are still many sites using thicknet. The manufacturing industry still has a large installed base in plants.
And if you really knew your networking, you would know that the only difference between a bridge and a switch is the number of ports. But, this IS an OS certification, not a networking cert.
Before you go off spouting how much you know about networking, show a hardware networking cert. Comparing a bunch of networking questions with a bunch of OS relate questions doesn't quite gel.
Maybe YOU don't get it. This isn't a company web-site, or the newest e-commerence website. This is his PERSONAL website, and he doesn't have to do a damn thing he doesn't want to. He doesn't have to cater to anybody.
If people like you are going to start venting and blatting about how people write the HTML code in personal websites, and rant on and on in a public forum, then maybe this world has gotten just a little to anal about stuff, and people should learn the first rule of society.
MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!!!!!
Alrighty, I'm not doubting this, but I have one question:
How would your brain KNOW it's not seeing things upside down. The reversing of the projected retina image is built in. It's a programed function to the construction of the eye. But if you wear the glasses that 'pre-flips' the image, sure, it's not the upside down on the retina (according to the normal way) but how would the brain know this? It's just an image.
If I took a picture of a pencil laying on a table, shooting straight down at it, and gave you the picture upside down, how would you know. You don't.
I think this makes sense. (probably not)
--nick
Copters will alwasy be used for 'on the scene' reporting, but systems like permenant traffic monitoring systems, and these proposed cell systems, will be used to monitor the areas to know where to send traffic copters. They can't be everywhere at once, so they need some sort of system to alert them to problems.
Isn't it interesting that: ..and NOW, Xerox decides to sue 3Com over the handwriting patent.
A) Bob Metcalfe was one of the main figures behing the development of Ethernet @ Xerox/PARC.
B) Metcalfe left Xerox to start 3Com.
C) 3Com now owns the Palm product line.
D)
Maybe there's nothing behind it, maybe there is, but it does seem a little bit.... strange..
hummmm...
From what I've read, the contract clearle stated that Cali and Or residents could cancel without repayment. This wasn't a 'loophole', this was a clearly stated, written out, clause.
You can only blame MS for thinking that people would want to stay with MSN. Let's face it people. $400 is $400, and only a fool would give pass up on a chance for $400 for free.
This will probably get moderated down, but who cares.
The whining around here has reached a level I have not found since I was last in 1st grade. Everybody has a better way of doing it, a bitch about this, a whine about that. It's really simple.
- Releasing source code. The software's #1 purpose is to run slashdot. This is a business, they are employed by a company, and the #1 goal is the keep slashdot running, and to tweak the code as needed. Everything else is secondary. There are good business reasons for not releasing it yet. Security being one. And everyone getting bent out of shape about the tech support comment. Everyones answer was A) We're smarter then that, and B) dont' do the mod_perl / apache support. He doesn't care about the 20% that don't need support, he cares about the 80% that do, and would ask. Not doing the support is easy, wading thru the stupid email is not.
Moderating suggestions. We have that already. The stories that get submitted more get higher posting ratios. Less submissions, less priority. Turning it over to the masses completely would ruin that whole thing. You came here for thier viewpoints, if you don't like that method anymore, theres the door. Run your own site.
It's real simple people. If you don't like it, do it yourself the way you think it should be done. Write your own software, open your own site, do it your way. But, remember, they built it, and they have a RIGHT, yes, a friggen RIGHT, to do it thier way.
So, Grow Up, quit yer whining, or get the hell out.
Now, let the killing of this post by this who it addresses begin.
I guess you will just have to remember that:
/., so you don't get to decide what goes on /. If you want some sort of editorial control, put up your own page. And, if you have, worry about what is posted on there, not on here.
/. is for US, not for YOU. As long as some of US like it, and appricate the posting, everything is cool. Sometimes YOU are part of US, and sometimes you are part of THEM. If you are part of THEM that don't like a post, remember again, it was posted for US.
A) You don't run
B)
Remember, it is always easier to tell someone how they should run thier page then just to do it yourself.
--knick
That's a good point. For example, with Standard Oil, the gas stations purchase the oil and gas through Stand...wait, they purchased it direct from the Standard Oil. Because, even if the end user was a comsumer, so what the owners of the stations themselve, and if anything, they were the ones being hurt. Opps, that was a bad example.
Let's use AT&T. Comsumers purchase the services.. uhh..oh, they purchased the services directly from AT&T.
How do you defined purchased. SOMEONE has to purchase directly. They are consumers also. The potential monopoly affects all levels of the chain.
Give them a way out? Perhaps this a offshoot of the "sue 'em" way of thinking today, but anti-trust laws are not a way of providing conduits for class-action lawsuits. They may be protected from the money-hungry lawyers (yeah, those lawyers are ONLY concerned with the purchaing public, not lining thier own pockets),but they still aren't protected from any punishment that the courts themselves decided to lay upon them.
I think lawyers like this should be sued!!!
I'm not sure, maybe it's just me, but hear me out here.
Everyone is talking about splitting up Windows (various verions of Windows) and splitting up Microsoft themselves, but maybe I'm of the the few people who have been around this land of computers to realize where this could be heading.
There usedt to be a dozen different hardware platforms, and each was totally incompatible with the other. Life was hell. Sure, you may argue that 90% of us are on the Intel platform now, and to hell with the rest of them (just kidding.) but how about the TRS-80.. There was TRS-DOS, and NEWDOW, and SmartDOS, and they each had thier own little tricks, and still there were various versions of everything. It stunk.
Then the world mostly settled on the IBM, and mostly on MSDOS/Windows after a dozen years. As life gets simpler, and little apps become more easy to find becuase developers don't have to spread thier talent, life is easier.
I for one, don't want to see everything split again. Win2002 doesn't come with defrager again, because that's an app, and I have to purchase that seperate. Oh, that's a cool utility, but it don't work on my flavor of windows, it's for A-Windows, and I run B-Windows.
Talk all you want about standards, and about choice. We made the choice 15 years ago. Why do we have to make it again.
Fine the company, slap some restrictions on them, and let's get on with life.
--knick
..there is no evil empire, get over it..
That's a very good point. Creating problems like that, with the intent of breaking other software, would NOT drive people away from Notes to Exchange, but would drive people away from NT toward other OS's to run Notes on.
Come on people. Microsoft isn't anyone to defend, but everyone here is starting to appear as the typical anti-MS zelots. This type of stuff destroys our credibility, and does nothing but make us look like bigoted fools.
--knick
..my car blew a headgasket, and it has to be MS's fault, becuase the auto company uses NT to run the servers that the engine designers saved thier meeting minutes on. DAMN YOU MICROSOFT!!!!..
My GOD! How could be be so stupid!! I can't believe that we really thought that it was the Boy Scouts, and that we really didn't check out the link before posting such ill-researched drivel.
... here's $.25. go buy a sense of humor.
I'm sure that nobody on /. are the type of people to enjoy the distruction of life or property in Florida, and that was obviously not the intent of this webcam.
/. had no control over the installation of this webcam, they simply let everyone else know about it. The only way that we could know about it is if the people who installed it in THIER house told others about it.
Simple facts:
- WE did not put this cam up, residents of florida did. They put it up in THIER house.
- I respect what you are going to go thru. I would not wish it upon anybody. But the fact is that it's going to happen. And speaking for most of us (if I may be so bold) we have never experienced a hurricane, and hopfully, never will. But, I have to admit, I'm curious to watch this hit. I would be just has happy if it didn't hit, and no damage was done. But, we can't change the fate of nature, and if we can watch it and learn to respect something we will never experience, what's the harm. We are not going to make it worse. Hell, maybe this will help people respect what is happening down there and help with relief efforts.
- I'm also sure you have never watched a picture or a movie of twisters, earthquakes, fires, or other nature disasters. We, as a people, are more knowledgable of the world events around us, and have more compassion about those who go thru such this, then ever before in the history of the world. And a big part of this is becuase we have the ability to watch this happen now, make it real for us.
In other words, we don't wish this upon you, we hope the best for everyone who will be affect by this, and we hope to learn by being able to watch. But, I'm sure that if there was a person staying with this webcam, we would certainly feel totally different about his, and would not be watching this.
Good luck to all of you in Florida, we will be watching.
..except..
this is portable.. It's not a problem to build a system to be able to put into your card, but a system to be able to carry with you? With 10Sec buffering, it will easily playing while traveling.
For $300, you can move it from car to car, take it to the gym, and use it at home.
Burners are dropping in price, and the media is dirt cheap now. No longer an excuse.
..burn baby burn..
Of course, you have to remember that there was ALOT more film shot then we saw. 3 people in the woods for 8 days, they probably shot a crap-load of footage, and then edited through to make the final film.
Also, the figure, as others have noted, was closer to $20,000, not $40,000, so you are looking at a figure of 50%.
I guess the real question comes down to this: You are a 16mm filmaker, but how many full-length released 16mm films have you made?