ISPs generally don't have policemen and armies at their disposal; governments do.
In the physical realm, perhaps.
Enforcement methods of cyberspace "kingdoms" do exist - anything from "utility programs" to ACLs to Social Engineering (e.g. FUD) are just as effective.
e.g. Ever tried to connect to IRC using, say, an insecure WinGate or other insecure proxy? Or run a port scanner while doing so? You'll get k-lined, or worse...
I cannot see the difference between governments regulating data flow and, say, an ISP subscribing and actively employing some form of RBL type blacklist against spam.
All forms of filtering/censorship/whatever are ultimately done by a human (or a committee thereof). Could be from as simple as writing a killfile on your newsreader, applying a RBL for your mailservers, or writing access rules for that router, etc., to something complex (at least socially) like this EU legislation.
The point is, every person (or group) has their own agenda, some will not agree with it while others will, all in the name of self-interest.
What makes the self-serving agenda of a governmental body more or less acceptable than some sysadmin or some corporation, etc.?
Draconian from first glance, but it is indeed the best way to safeguard EU citizens' privacy (at least against entities outside the EU nations). Similar to the "ultimate form of security" - disconnecting the computer and bury it under meters of concrete (in terms of concept, effectiveness and amount of inconvenience caused.)
As for the U.S. diplomatic feathers being ruffled - it's about time somebody/something stood up to their schoolyard-bully style of foreign policy.
First the Kyoto accords, then the Spy Plane "accident"... all within three months!
I just don't see anybody entrusting a SQL database of any importance to any "filing system" that cannot be centrally administrated. Potential for data corruption and the inability to have reliable backups are nightmares for any DBA's...
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Federal Prison? Not everybody in the world lives in that country, you know...sheesh
"Piracy" is simply another cog in this capitalistic economic machine - a "grey" or "black" market...
All your ethnocentric are belong to U.S. (tm)
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Even if those copy protected hard drives become your staple diet, what stops people from developing mod-chips for them, a la the Playstation? Besides, the manufacturers know (or will know the hard way) that "piracy" actually fuels demand for bigger, faster and more powerful hardware...
...that my friend informed me about it through his shiny Hotmail account:)
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However if more people do this, then the increase of administrative costs and "settlement" money will increase the price of spam to such an extent as to make the practise unprofitable. Remembering that the main allure of spamming is its low marginal cost.
Litigation is not as effective as what it appears to be. After all, how long does it take until some spammer gets away on a technicality and set a bad legal precedent?
If the above technique is used widely enough, two bad things would happen IMO:
1. "Neutral", robots.txt abiding search engines would not be able to index those pages (which would probably work to the detriment of the webmaster concerned)
2. Gagware scan policies may change to simply ban by domain name alone, in effect, no scan, all ban:(
On the other hand, I think what Bidder's Edge does is really indefensible from an ethical standpoint and I am rooting for them to lose because they are in effect *competing* with eBay for advertising dollars by *using* eBay's content. If you view content from ebay through Bidder's Edge, that's advertising revenue eBay doosn't get which BE does. If "Advertising Revenue" means things like ad buttons and banners, what about the Joe User who uses an ad-blocking software like Junkbusters, interMute, etc.? But if "Bidder's Edge" inserts its own ads in lieu of eBay's, then I see your point.
If I read the article correctly, I can't see why CyberPatrol needs to set up a *server* on the firewall.
I thought all the gagware needs to do, is to send a request to a CyberPatrol ACL server with the URL in question and wait for a simple yay/nay reply...
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Enforcement methods of cyberspace "kingdoms" do exist - anything from "utility programs" to ACLs to Social Engineering (e.g. FUD) are just as effective.
e.g. Ever tried to connect to IRC using, say, an insecure WinGate or other insecure proxy? Or run a port scanner while doing so? You'll get k-lined, or worse...
I cannot see the difference between governments regulating data flow and, say, an ISP subscribing and actively employing some form of RBL type blacklist against spam.
All forms of filtering/censorship/whatever are ultimately done by a human (or a committee thereof). Could be from as simple as writing a killfile on your newsreader, applying a RBL for your mailservers, or writing access rules for that router, etc., to something complex (at least socially) like this EU legislation.
The point is, every person (or group) has their own agenda, some will not agree with it while others will, all in the name of self-interest.
What makes the self-serving agenda of a governmental body more or less acceptable than some sysadmin or some corporation, etc.?
Draconian from first glance, but it is indeed the best way to safeguard EU citizens' privacy (at least against entities outside the EU nations). Similar to the "ultimate form of security" - disconnecting the computer and bury it under meters of concrete (in terms of concept, effectiveness and amount of inconvenience caused.)
As for the U.S. diplomatic feathers being ruffled - it's about time somebody/something stood up to their schoolyard-bully style of foreign policy.
First the Kyoto accords, then the Spy Plane "accident"... all within three months!
I just don't see anybody entrusting a SQL database of any importance to any "filing system" that cannot be centrally administrated. Potential for data corruption and the inability to have reliable backups are nightmares for any DBA's...
Federal Prison? Not everybody in the world lives in that country, you know...sheesh
All your ethnocentricity are belong to U.S. (tm)
Launch all 'MP3'.
For great justice.
"Piracy" is simply another cog in this capitalistic economic machine - a "grey" or "black" market...
;-)
All your ethnocentric are belong to U.S. (tm)
Even if those copy protected hard drives become your staple diet, what stops people from developing mod-chips for them, a la the Playstation? Besides, the manufacturers know (or will know the hard way) that "piracy" actually fuels demand for bigger, faster and more powerful hardware...
...that my friend informed me about it through his shiny Hotmail account :)
However if more people do this, then the increase of administrative costs and "settlement" money will increase the price of spam to such an extent as to make the practise unprofitable. Remembering that the main allure of spamming is its low marginal cost. Litigation is not as effective as what it appears to be. After all, how long does it take until some spammer gets away on a technicality and set a bad legal precedent?
If the above technique is used widely enough, two bad things would happen IMO:
:(
1. "Neutral", robots.txt abiding search engines would not be able to index those pages (which would probably work to the detriment of the webmaster concerned)
2. Gagware scan policies may change to simply ban by domain name alone, in effect, no scan, all ban
On the other hand, I think what Bidder's Edge does is really indefensible from an ethical standpoint and I am rooting for them to lose because they are in effect *competing* with eBay for advertising dollars by *using* eBay's content. If you view content from ebay through Bidder's Edge, that's advertising revenue eBay doosn't get which BE does. If "Advertising Revenue" means things like ad buttons and banners, what about the Joe User who uses an ad-blocking software like Junkbusters, interMute, etc.? But if "Bidder's Edge" inserts its own ads in lieu of eBay's, then I see your point.
If I read the article correctly, I can't see why CyberPatrol needs to set up a *server* on the firewall.
I thought all the gagware needs to do, is to send a request to a CyberPatrol ACL server with the URL in question and wait for a simple yay/nay reply...
Yours confused, Mincemeat