Except peopel have used exactly that same false logic to claim that Widnows owns the market for years here on slashdot. And not a peep of complaint, either.
No. If you cared about software you'd notice that the software you want runs on the Mac as well... and usually better versions of it run faster.
And yes, as the other person pointed out, I was exaggerating. Duh. You just make yourself look stupid.
Anyway if you knew anything about computers, you'd realize that hte x86 platform, especially running windows is FAR more expensive and FAR lower performance than hardware from Apple.
You are a weenie-- you don't know shit about computers, apparenlty.
But hey, that makes you typical for slashdot, which long ago became the site of pseudo-intellectual pseud-geeks who jsut repeat, in abject ignorance, the party line.
Learn some physics, or computer engineering sometime.
By the way, you are failing to account for formfactor in your comparisons, 1.8 inch drives are more expensive than 2.5 inch drives.
You're neither a conservative nor a conservationaist.
If you were, you'd know that the soviet union's state controlled environemntal damage is what we have here. Not what I advocate.
The largest polluter in the country is the government, and the government is immune to regulation to prevetn it from polluting. IF you really were a conservationist or a conservative, you'd want to reduce the size of government and remove their ability to pollute with impunity.
When you talk about "Rock solid physics" you're just spouting socialist propaganda pseud-science like everyone else who has never bothered to actually look at the research or learn the physics.
And you're going against the science of economics.
I don't like people like you-- you spout pseudo scientific bullshit that lets people continue to not think and think they are thinking.
You and your socialist friends, are exactly why the environment is being damaged and people are poor in this country.
If you'd reject socialism and embrace human rights and capitalism, it would be better for everybody.
But fortunately, science and economics are on my side. Eventually the people will stop falling for your lies and excuses and rise up and throw your types out of power.
Please, go learn some physics and economics. If you REALLY wanted to preserve the environment, you'd see I'm right.
But that's not what you want-- you want control. You want tyranny. And you don't even have the basic integrity to be honest about it.
Jesus, its like you're channeling the little red book.
Please go learn some economics. Austrian economics is consistant with history, while socialist economists are always going around trying to justify why history doesn't fit their theories.
iTunes drives iPod Windows sales. iPods drive Mac Sales.
Mac sales drive revenue and software sales.
That's the deal. Though they do make good money on iPods and they get a lot of advertising for a break even business out of iTunes.
Once people who have been living in an unthinking monolithic windows world experience Apple technology, its only a matter of time before they get themselves a Mac.
But Apple knows its market. It knows that the initial purchasing crunch is the most expensive-- because they have to gear up lots of players to meet demand, and it comes when their component prices are highest.
So, what Apple does with all their products is introduce them at a "high" price and then lower the price later, or up the capabilities at the same price.
You saw this with the original iPods.
The $250 ipod is so close to the $299 ipod because they want to clear out the people who are super concerned with size first.
Eventually the mini-iPod will be $199. (Cause I don't think they can increase the capacity like they did with the originals.)
So there is no equivilent hardware on the x86 side.
Well, maybe a quad something or other would come close.
Everyone who buys x86 does so because they think clock speed is performance.
They see the G5 at 2GHz and think its slower than a 3GHz pentium.
This includes %99 of slashdot posters who will go on and on with rationalizations to try and "prove" that they don't think so-- they will even post benchmarks like spec (Which just measures clock rate) to try to prove it.
But at the end of the day, they are not educated in computer engineering, they don't know what they are talking about, and they will tell you BS.
Like the guys used to do in the 70s who tricked out their cars but never really knew the physics behind them, so they put in things that salespeople sold them that didn't really enhance performance-- but they told their friends they did because tehy wanted to seem cool. They told their friends about it in excruciating detail.
That is what its like having the performance argument with an x86 fan. By definition they are ignorant, and arguing with an idiot only makes an idiot of yourself.
And actually, you're right-- stupid people do pay more because they don't account for the time they waste trying to get something working that should just work out of the box.
For instance, Final Cut Express was $99 until recently...
And you can trade in a laptop to get a new one for a lot less....
The difference between Apple and others is that Apple doesn't build as much profit into the deal.
Apple makes their %10 at $299 and you think you're getting ripped off, when other companies sell you a $150 item for $250 and you think you're getting a killer deal. Oh, and you think you've done better than the apple product because you saved $50! Even though the margin was higher and the product you got was worth a lot less... your values are screwed up.
That's why its pointles to argue with PC weenies-- they will tell you with a straight face that some AMD system is as fast as a G5-- cause they're too ignorant ot know the guy who told them that was lying.
There is no solution. Things like Kyoto are just as foolish as Maos plan to have kids kill butterflies (or whatever it was).... incompetant ideas applied by people ignorant of basic science.
Reality is the environmental quality in an area is directly proportional to the economic development in an area. IT is only once people get beyond a certain standard of living that they start caring about the environment (cause tehy are no longer worrying about basic needs.)
Thus, the best way-- the only way-- to a cleaner environment is unregulated economic development.
A basic lack of understanding of economics is behind most environmental solutions (as well as the war on poverty, etc.) and thus they actually cause the problem to be worse, not better.
But then, they are never held accountable, and they always have someone to blame-- usually "corporations" which they only have to invoke, and never actualy articulate exactly how "corporations" are to blame. Cause in reality, corporations-- of their own accord-- have done far more to protect and enhance the environment than greenpeace has ever tried.
Yeah, the earth will never be protected until we get off of this oil based economy.
Thats why we need to move to nuclear power as soon as possible. All real environmentalists agree!
Well, except for those who think we should move to a coal based economy.
Ok, well, everyone agrees we need to get rid of this oil based economy! And hey, if we weren't on one, George Bush wouldn't be our president!
Oh, and power to the people! That means you don't get to make private agreements--- the government must regulate them all! ITs good for the poor, right! You wouldn't want someone working in a sweatshop for less than a Living Wage* (TM)!
Bitgeek
* Note: Living Wage is a registered trademark of the Stalin Again organization, its use here is not meant to imply that Stalin Again has certified the item in question as qualifying as a "Living Wage" and is used only for illustration. No endorsement of Stalin Again Inc. is implied.
Actually, those kids aren't slaves. They're happy to have the work.
Funny thing is, you'd rather they starve than get to work for a living.
And as to the "slave wages" they are paid, this shows serious ignorance-- when you ignore cost of living adjustments and currency adjustments, you make it look like they are getting paid less than they need to survive.
The reason sweatshops are popular is that they offer a BETTER DEAL than the employment alternatives.
But american liberals, determined to make everyone in the world starve, just can't stand the idea-- they'd rather those people be unemployed because minimum wage is $20,000 a year than have them chose for themselves whats best for them.
You should look into it further-- there were no automatic weapons (or otherwise illegal weapons) in the Dividian compound.
Furthermore, why would he shoot them to death when he had a few days previously offered to come to the ATF building to talk about the issue with them, but was told it wasn't necessary?
All indications are that Koresh had nothing to hide and had offered to cooperate with the ATF. And so you say he suddenly opened fire on them?
Inconsistent.
Furthermore, there are many incidents of the ATF opening fire on people who are not even armed, let alone returning fire.
The idea that the ATF must have been shooting in self defense is the delusion you tell yourself because you don't want to accept the reality that your government is evil.
Uh, no. There is no evideence at all the Dividians fired first...
By the way, how were they supposed to get out of there? The place was surrounded, the people who did get out were thrown in jail on trumped up charges.
The dividians paranoia turned out to be on the money!
Or adhereing to the laws of the land and not going in to murder people who happen to practice a religious view that is unpopular.
The Koresh people had no illegal weapons... all of them were perfectly legal to own. They broke no laws.
The ATF, on the other hand, broke many laws, and to date, nobody has been punished.
These people are out of control, and the ATF is a criminal enterprise.
By the way, there is no justification for "dynamic entry". EVER. Anyone who engages in it is a criminal, who has apparently never read the constitution.
Only because you are aparently incapable of thinking.
For 40 years airlines allowed passengers to carry guns on planes, and there were very few hijackings. Then the governmetn stepped in and forced them to disarm their passengers, and we got the rash of hijackings in the 70s.
Its interesting that you prefer the outcome where everyone on board dies, rather than just the criminals.
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Except peopel have used exactly that same false logic to claim that Widnows owns the market for years here on slashdot. And not a peep of complaint, either.
Now that the shoes on the other foot, though....
No. If you cared about software you'd notice that the software you want runs on the Mac as well... and usually better versions of it run faster.
And yes, as the other person pointed out, I was exaggerating. Duh. You just make yourself look stupid.
Anyway if you knew anything about computers, you'd realize that hte x86 platform, especially running windows is FAR more expensive and FAR lower performance than hardware from Apple.
You are a weenie-- you don't know shit about computers, apparenlty.
But hey, that makes you typical for slashdot, which long ago became the site of pseudo-intellectual pseud-geeks who jsut repeat, in abject ignorance, the party line.
Learn some physics, or computer engineering sometime.
By the way, you are failing to account for formfactor in your comparisons, 1.8 inch drives are more expensive than 2.5 inch drives.
You're neither a conservative nor a conservationaist.
If you were, you'd know that the soviet union's state controlled environemntal damage is what we have here. Not what I advocate.
The largest polluter in the country is the government, and the government is immune to regulation to prevetn it from polluting. IF you really were a conservationist or a conservative, you'd want to reduce the size of government and remove their ability to pollute with impunity.
When you talk about "Rock solid physics" you're just spouting socialist propaganda pseud-science like everyone else who has never bothered to actually look at the research or learn the physics.
And you're going against the science of economics.
I don't like people like you-- you spout pseudo scientific bullshit that lets people continue to not think and think they are thinking.
You and your socialist friends, are exactly why the environment is being damaged and people are poor in this country.
If you'd reject socialism and embrace human rights and capitalism, it would be better for everybody.
But fortunately, science and economics are on my side. Eventually the people will stop falling for your lies and excuses and rise up and throw your types out of power.
Please, go learn some physics and economics. If you REALLY wanted to preserve the environment, you'd see I'm right.
But that's not what you want-- you want control. You want tyranny. And you don't even have the basic integrity to be honest about it.
Jesus, its like you're channeling the little red book.
Please go learn some economics. Austrian economics is consistant with history, while socialist economists are always going around trying to justify why history doesn't fit their theories.
According to you, the USSR was a paradise!
Well, if you valued your time at more than $1 a day, you'd see you are buying a G5 for less than $600 when you account for time value.
All you people are unable to make value judgements and go based on price, thinking everythings the same.
Well, everything is the same monolithic crap when you're in PC land.
Come out and see reality sometime.
No. Apple targets cheapskates who like to get three times as much product quality and performance for %30 more money.
They specifically do not target people who cannot make a value judgement and just buy on price.
iTunes drives iPod Windows sales.
iPods drive Mac Sales.
Mac sales drive revenue and software sales.
That's the deal. Though they do make good money on iPods and they get a lot of advertising for a break even business out of iTunes.
Once people who have been living in an unthinking monolithic windows world experience Apple technology, its only a matter of time before they get themselves a Mac.
I think you're right.
But Apple knows its market. It knows that the initial purchasing crunch is the most expensive-- because they have to gear up lots of players to meet demand, and it comes when their component prices are highest.
So, what Apple does with all their products is introduce them at a "high" price and then lower the price later, or up the capabilities at the same price.
You saw this with the original iPods.
The $250 ipod is so close to the $299 ipod because they want to clear out the people who are super concerned with size first.
Eventually the mini-iPod will be $199. (Cause I don't think they can increase the capacity like they did with the originals.)
Opterons are MUCH slower than G5s.
So there is no equivilent hardware on the x86 side.
Well, maybe a quad something or other would come close.
Everyone who buys x86 does so because they think clock speed is performance.
They see the G5 at 2GHz and think its slower than a 3GHz pentium.
This includes %99 of slashdot posters who will go on and on with rationalizations to try and "prove" that they don't think so-- they will even post benchmarks like spec (Which just measures clock rate) to try to prove it.
But at the end of the day, they are not educated in computer engineering, they don't know what they are talking about, and they will tell you BS.
Like the guys used to do in the 70s who tricked out their cars but never really knew the physics behind them, so they put in things that salespeople sold them that didn't really enhance performance-- but they told their friends they did because tehy wanted to seem cool. They told their friends about it in excruciating detail.
That is what its like having the performance argument with an x86 fan. By definition they are ignorant, and arguing with an idiot only makes an idiot of yourself.
So don't do it, unless its for sport.
Ha!
Because your time is not worth much.
And actually, you're right-- stupid people do pay more because they don't account for the time they waste trying to get something working that should just work out of the box.
I love how someone pointing out that a product is poorly made makes them flamebait.
I guess to the mods there is no such thing as a poorly made product-- unless of course you're attacking Apple. Then you're "insightful".
Jumped the shark, whenever it was that the ignorant started out posting the actual engineers here.
For instance, why has nobody wondered what hard drive this iPod is using. Its not obvious.
Microdrives are too expensive, and the Cornice device is too small. (And I doubt they'd use two drives....)
Wrong.
Apple is always running deals, and discounts.
For instance, Final Cut Express was $99 until recently...
And you can trade in a laptop to get a new one for a lot less....
The difference between Apple and others is that Apple doesn't build as much profit into the deal.
Apple makes their %10 at $299 and you think you're getting ripped off, when other companies sell you a $150 item for $250 and you think you're getting a killer deal. Oh, and you think you've done better than the apple product because you saved $50! Even though the margin was higher and the product you got was worth a lot less... your values are screwed up.
That's why its pointles to argue with PC weenies-- they will tell you with a straight face that some AMD system is as fast as a G5-- cause they're too ignorant ot know the guy who told them that was lying.
There is no solution. Things like Kyoto are just as foolish as Maos plan to have kids kill butterflies (or whatever it was).... incompetant ideas applied by people ignorant of basic science.
Reality is the environmental quality in an area is directly proportional to the economic development in an area. IT is only once people get beyond a certain standard of living that they start caring about the environment (cause tehy are no longer worrying about basic needs.)
Thus, the best way-- the only way-- to a cleaner environment is unregulated economic development.
A basic lack of understanding of economics is behind most environmental solutions (as well as the war on poverty, etc.) and thus they actually cause the problem to be worse, not better.
But then, they are never held accountable, and they always have someone to blame-- usually "corporations" which they only have to invoke, and never actualy articulate exactly how "corporations" are to blame. Cause in reality, corporations-- of their own accord-- have done far more to protect and enhance the environment than greenpeace has ever tried.
Yeah, the earth will never be protected until we get off of this oil based economy.
Thats why we need to move to nuclear power as soon as possible. All real environmentalists agree!
Well, except for those who think we should move to a coal based economy.
Ok, well, everyone agrees we need to get rid of this oil based economy! And hey, if we weren't on one, George Bush wouldn't be our president!
Oh, and power to the people! That means you don't get to make private agreements--- the government must regulate them all! ITs good for the poor, right! You wouldn't want someone working in a sweatshop for less than a Living Wage* (TM)!
Bitgeek
* Note: Living Wage is a registered trademark of the Stalin Again organization, its use here is not meant to imply that Stalin Again has certified the item in question as qualifying as a "Living Wage" and is used only for illustration. No endorsement of Stalin Again Inc. is implied.
Actually, those kids aren't slaves. They're happy to have the work.
Funny thing is, you'd rather they starve than get to work for a living.
And as to the "slave wages" they are paid, this shows serious ignorance-- when you ignore cost of living adjustments and currency adjustments, you make it look like they are getting paid less than they need to survive.
The reason sweatshops are popular is that they offer a BETTER DEAL than the employment alternatives.
But american liberals, determined to make everyone in the world starve, just can't stand the idea-- they'd rather those people be unemployed because minimum wage is $20,000 a year than have them chose for themselves whats best for them.
Liberalism is anti-human rights.
Furthermore, Koresh CALLED the ATF and asked them if they wanted to talk.
They were in phone contact... and could have easily had him come down to talk, as he had stated he was willing to.
Koresh wasn't hiding anything.
You should look into it further-- there were no automatic weapons (or otherwise illegal weapons) in the Dividian compound.
Furthermore, why would he shoot them to death when he had a few days previously offered to come to the ATF building to talk about the issue with them, but was told it wasn't necessary?
All indications are that Koresh had nothing to hide and had offered to cooperate with the ATF. And so you say he suddenly opened fire on them?
Inconsistent.
Furthermore, there are many incidents of the ATF opening fire on people who are not even armed, let alone returning fire.
The idea that the ATF must have been shooting in self defense is the delusion you tell yourself because you don't want to accept the reality that your government is evil.
You believe this because you were told to believe this by the government.
Independant investigations show a different picture.
Koresh, for instance, offered to meet with the ATF at their offices, but was told that it wasn't necessary.
All of the Rifles in the Branch Dividian compound were semi-automatic. They were legal.
The "machine guns" statement was just another of the lies put out in the media to justify the raid.
Uh, no. There is no evideence at all the Dividians fired first...
By the way, how were they supposed to get out of there? The place was surrounded, the people who did get out were thrown in jail on trumped up charges.
The dividians paranoia turned out to be on the money!
There's nothing illegal or immoral or even questionable about buying and selling guns.
You might have well said they deserved to be murdered for buying and selling cars and expected us to think that somehoe justified it.
Koresh and the other BD committed no crimes. All the guns were legal underr the law (even though laws making guns illegal are themselves illegal.)
Koresh didn't have any machine guns. In the end, all the "illegal guns" turned out to be legal semi-automatics.
The only crimes committed in WACO were by the government, which is, conveniently, immune from prosecution.
Or adhereing to the laws of the land and not going in to murder people who happen to practice a religious view that is unpopular.
The Koresh people had no illegal weapons... all of them were perfectly legal to own. They broke no laws.
The ATF, on the other hand, broke many laws, and to date, nobody has been punished.
These people are out of control, and the ATF is a criminal enterprise.
By the way, there is no justification for "dynamic entry". EVER. Anyone who engages in it is a criminal, who has apparently never read the constitution.
Only because you are aparently incapable of thinking.
For 40 years airlines allowed passengers to carry guns on planes, and there were very few hijackings. Then the governmetn stepped in and forced them to disarm their passengers, and we got the rash of hijackings in the 70s.
Its interesting that you prefer the outcome where everyone on board dies, rather than just the criminals.