Thats an EXCELLENT point. I think that was my error.
I was using friends and enemies to boost or inhibit postings, but I found that it made all my postings be +5, and I knew they really weren't being modded up like that.
your comments and views are being thrown into the mix with 12 year olds, the janitor from Radio Shack, legit geeks, and bored out of work guys
As a legit geek, I'd rather spend my time talking to other legit geeks. I don't mind that they are in the minority if I'm allowed to speak. but when I'm getting modded down by 12 year olds, and there is no useful communication with other legit geeks, then it becomes something that is not worth my time.
I did get to moderate in the past, but now I've been banned from moderation, apparently, because my sig talks about moderation and I've talked about moderation in the forums. I used to moderate regularly, but for a couple months now, not at all.
Another way of putting my point is there are too many 12 year olds to wade thru to get to the legit geeks posts.
The assassination of Maclolm X was a terroristic act. It was done by the nation of islam.
Furthermore, numerous uses of force in the 60s and 70s, designed to put fear into people, were acts of terrorism. I believe this included pipe bombs, shooting people, etc.
Not terrorism on the scale of al queda, but still the use of force to scare people.
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I did read the article. You have provided no facts for me to ignore.
YOU lamented that you'd still have to be working when you were 85. And with the foolish and risky investment strategy that you now claim to have made (why the switch? I suspect you're making it up now.) you're going to do poorer and have higher risk than following this "guru" who has never written a book.
Sheesh you're such a fucking idiot- you think buffett is a guru leading people astray when he's never written a book, never lead anyone-- he's just invested and answered peoples questions about what he invested in begrudgingly.
You have provided no facts for me to ignroe-- just an article claiming that a music major can't find work and somehow I'm supposed to be concerned?
I actually thought you were someone who was redeemable that you were just ignorant of the ways of the world. Stupid me for trying to help you.
When a post like the above one gets moderated down to 0, "Overrated" and "troll" when clearly it isn't a troll (And the actual troll in this thread- who calls mac users the worst kind of zeolots gets modded up to 5) then there is no incentive to not post AC.
The purpose of moderation is to enhance good posts-- not to punish people who think differently from you.
Of course, I should have expected it, after all, I was pointing out how bigots mistreat mac fans, and what do I get? mistreatement at the hands of bigots.
As far as I'm concerned, slashdot has outlived its usefulness. I think I will keep reading the headlines, but I will stop participating in the forums. The system is broken, and the level of discourse is not high enough often enough to make it worth my while. This latter bit being BECAUSE the moderation system is a popularity contest.
Since you have rated this post (And other long detailed technical posts I've made) at zero because you didn't like what they said-- and not been caught in metamoderation-- then there is no reason whatsoever not to post as an AC.
but the thing that strikes me is how much outright hatred there is out there.
ITs not about preference-- its actually persecution (in the same way gay people are persecuted-- not burned at the stake, but harassed and denied opportunity.)
Just look at the blatantly biased way my post has been modded.
Yes, amiga users suffer the same fate, and Linux users too, but its worth noting that at least in these parts its the linux users running around calling us "macfags" and getting modded up for it!
By the way, my post has been modded down twice: Once "overrated" when it was at 1, and then "troll" to bring it down to zero.
Just looking at the balance of flames in this discussion topic show that my point is well made-- there are a dozen posts that make the statements I claim people make.
What's so threatening about this supposed %5 of the marketplace that has people making up new laws of physics to explain how the pentium is faster, and outright lying about financial performance to claim apple is going under, etc?
Could it be that deep down, they know that we're right.
It must be annoying to have to deal with people who actually like their computers.
Its not enough that Microsoft has the vast majority of the desktop.
Its not enough that the macintosh has been derided for the past 20 years as a toy, as inferior, and as the machine that is more style than substance.
Its not enough that we had a good solid ten years of the tech media announcing that apple was going out of business- never mind that when they first started making that claim, apple had more sales revenue than Microsoft!
Its not enough that most half educated self-styled geeks think macs are slow.
Or that theirs a cult of mac hatred, mac bashing, and downright viciousness directed at anyone who dares to buy the computer that is not the one ordained by the powers that be as the be all, end all, "how dare you want something else".
Its not enough that despite better economics of mac software, we've had 20 years of idiot marketing types canceling mac products to focus on windows (And then losing to microsoft in the end.)
Its not enough that bigotry and hatred towards mac users is wide spread among computer enthusiasts- and is not only tolerated but encouraged.
No, none of these are enough.
Now we need to start comparing mac users to terrorists?
Its continually amazing how threatened so many people are that some segment of the population buys the computer that works best for them.
How can you be so threatened at people thinking for themselves? Oh yeah, that's right, this is a nation that worships conformity.
This is a sad state of affairs. And some of you should be ashamed of yourselves.
I find it interesting that you point to communes as "making communities work" when they have, by and large, been failures. The largest experiment in this way of "living" is the soviet union and we saw how they made it work-- brutal oppression.
In a free society such as the US (which, by the way, itself a far better example of a working community) such communes cannot impose brutal oppression on their members, and so when their delusions are exposed, they leave the commune, and eventually they fail.
Notice that the ones that still survive do so by embracing capitalism. If their members want to give up individuality and personal achievement for this lifestyle that they think is somehow better, more power too them.
But it certainly isn't an example of making "communities" work.
"Think globally, act locally" is another slogan along with "From each according to his ability to each according to his needs."
Invariably, those with ability leave. How long does anyone want to support someone who doesn't produce themselves, but claims rights to your product under the guise of some ideology?
I was responding specifically to the claim that altivec is wasted because its starved for data. Since you (or whoever it was that made that claim) didn't specify what usage altivec was being put to where it was starved for data, I provided examples of the scenarios I know of where altivec is used.
With them memory busses in question, the altivec unit is not starved for data when ripping a CD or encoding DV into MP4 video.
In fact, in these cases the bottleneck is actually the device the raw data is being read off of.
So the claim that the altivec unit is wasted because of memory bottlenecks is silly-- the limiting factor when encoding DV video to MP4 is the hard drive, not the altivec unit.
Slashdot quoting Ars Technica, as if it were a source, is like third graders quoting comic book heros.
Except that third graders are expected to be at that level of maturity, while slashdot purports to be a society of engineers.
The average slashdot reader who's job is watching over a bunch of linux boxes to make sure they are doing their job, and who has no design responsibilities, can only program with scripting languages and doesn't understand basic processor architecture is not who we should turn to for analysis of the new IBM chip.
But that person would STILL Be more qualified than the average Ars Technica writer.
Ars Technica- The technical education of a 13 year old girl, the attitude of a 16 year old boy and the FUD orientation of Microsoft.
I'll be sure to remind you of that when you're here lamenting how tough it is living on welfare.
Do you even have reasonable expectations (and not pure hope) that things will in fact turn to your favor?
Of course you do. Like buying Bonds, you should always know what you're return is going to be BEFORE you buy. And you can know this. \
Its a simple matter of math and rational investing.
The fact that many idiots think its gambling, only makes it easier to make money by being rational.
Warren Buffett turned his paper route money into 40 billion or so, making him the second richest man in the world-- just by investing his odd job money from when he was a kid.
You think Warren Buffett is a gambler? Then you're either an idiot or ignorant.
It is not BS. Yes, you can pick a local high and then pick a local low (in the beginning of WWII no less!) but hwen you look at 10 year peariods (Rather than picking specific dates) the trend does hold.
Most of the time, you end up much better off.
Most of the original dow stocks are not worthless. That's a stupid thing to say-- after all, when a company is past its prime it gets bought.
They live in on current dow members.
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Sheesh. You lamented that you didn't think you'd be able to retire before 85.
I pointed out that this is a silly worry-- that it is really quite easy to retire early.
And it is. A bunch of whiners complaining about how things are tough now are just idiots, and of course I'm ignoring them.
Its really quite simple: Either you are wasting money and won't be able to retire before you're 85 as you claim, or you are being prudent and you can retire 10-15 years from now.
You set up the strawman by claiming you couldn't retire.
Its garbage- if you have an income, you can retire early, its simply mathematics.
And if you're in Generation X, , even if you got started late, you should still already have 5 years toward retirement.
I can understand not getting started on your retirement when you're 22, but by the time you're in your late 20s, you should be saving.
I do know enough about you-- you claim to be in Generation X, and you post to slashdot. Therefore you have at least some technical skills and are old enough to know better.
Stop whining and start investing.
Read the books I suggested.
Its really within your power-- the thing that determines whether you will be traveling the world, carefree or destitute at 85 is YOU.
Don't let a forbes article that managed to find some stupid slackers convince you that its not your responsibility and fault whether you retire early or never.
In fact the article supports my position- these people who got training in worthless careers, didn't bother to save any money while the economy was hot, are now whining because things are tough when the economy is cooled off? What pathetic losers! The economy cooling off has hurt me, but I've been able to coast thru because I was prepared for it. I didn't know it was coming, but I had already spent a couple years getting my cost of living down so that in any situation I can live cheaply- and save more when I'm employed, or have the freedom to develop my own business when I'm not.
I understand-- it too me about 8 years of denial before I took financial responbility of my own life, and it was quite amazing how quickly things turned once I did that.
Like I said before, the only things that will keep your from retiring early are laziness, attitude and ignorance. All of which are in your control.
Whatever the state of the economy or generation you were born into.
Be a man (or woman) and take responsibility for your own life, for gods sake.
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Thats an EXCELLENT point. I think that was my error.
I was using friends and enemies to boost or inhibit postings, but I found that it made all my postings be +5, and I knew they really weren't being modded up like that.
I thought that comment was really funny! Thanks.
your comments and views are being thrown into the mix with 12 year olds, the janitor from Radio Shack, legit geeks, and bored out of work guys
As a legit geek, I'd rather spend my time talking to other legit geeks. I don't mind that they are in the minority if I'm allowed to speak. but when I'm getting modded down by 12 year olds, and there is no useful communication with other legit geeks, then it becomes something that is not worth my time.
I did get to moderate in the past, but now I've been banned from moderation, apparently, because my sig talks about moderation and I've talked about moderation in the forums. I used to moderate regularly, but for a couple months now, not at all.
Another way of putting my point is there are too many 12 year olds to wade thru to get to the legit geeks posts.
New moderation total for the parent post:
Moderation Totals: Flamebait=1, Troll=2, Insightful=6, Interesting=2, Overrated=3, Underrated=1, Total=15.
Thankfully people have stepped in and modded the post more appropriately. I don't think it deserves a 5, but at least a 2 or 3. 0 is just unfair.
The assassination of Maclolm X was a terroristic act. It was done by the nation of islam.
Furthermore, numerous uses of force in the 60s and 70s, designed to put fear into people, were acts of terrorism. I believe this included pipe bombs, shooting people, etc.
Not terrorism on the scale of al queda, but still the use of force to scare people.
I did read the article. You have provided no facts for me to ignore.
YOU lamented that you'd still have to be working when you were 85. And with the foolish and risky investment strategy that you now claim to have made (why the switch? I suspect you're making it up now.) you're going to do poorer and have higher risk than following this "guru" who has never written a book.
Sheesh you're such a fucking idiot- you think buffett is a guru leading people astray when he's never written a book, never lead anyone-- he's just invested and answered peoples questions about what he invested in begrudgingly.
You have provided no facts for me to ignroe-- just an article claiming that a music major can't find work and somehow I'm supposed to be concerned?
I actually thought you were someone who was redeemable that you were just ignorant of the ways of the world. Stupid me for trying to help you.
It's been my experience that Mac zealots are the worst zealots
Maybe its because you're a hateful fuck and they treat you with the same derision that you treat them.
Warmest regards,
bitgeek
When a post like the above one gets moderated down to 0, "Overrated" and "troll" when clearly it isn't a troll (And the actual troll in this thread- who calls mac users the worst kind of zeolots gets modded up to 5) then there is no incentive to not post AC.
The purpose of moderation is to enhance good posts-- not to punish people who think differently from you.
Of course, I should have expected it, after all, I was pointing out how bigots mistreat mac fans, and what do I get? mistreatement at the hands of bigots.
As far as I'm concerned, slashdot has outlived its usefulness. I think I will keep reading the headlines, but I will stop participating in the forums. The system is broken, and the level of discourse is not high enough often enough to make it worth my while. This latter bit being BECAUSE the moderation system is a popularity contest.
Since you have rated this post (And other long detailed technical posts I've made) at zero because you didn't like what they said-- and not been caught in metamoderation-- then there is no reason whatsoever not to post as an AC.
And thus, I leave slashdot.
RMS has advocated the forcing (and that means, with guns) of all software to be "free"-- whether it was GPLed or not.
While he's a wimp and there's no chance of it happening, from a moral standpoint he is guilty of demanding the end to this form of property.
And it aint freedom he's advocating-- its the elimination of programmer as a job title, and the elimination of any ownership of ones work product.
I still haven't forgotten the day that the Wall Street Journal announced that Sun had bought Apple.
They never retracted that story, btw.
Sure, the mac is not alone in this. I agree.
but the thing that strikes me is how much outright hatred there is out there.
ITs not about preference-- its actually persecution (in the same way gay people are persecuted-- not burned at the stake, but harassed and denied opportunity.)
Just look at the blatantly biased way my post has been modded.
Yes, amiga users suffer the same fate, and Linux users too, but its worth noting that at least in these parts its the linux users running around calling us "macfags" and getting modded up for it!
By the way, my post has been modded down twice: Once "overrated" when it was at 1, and then "troll" to bring it down to zero.
Just looking at the balance of flames in this discussion topic show that my point is well made-- there are a dozen posts that make the statements I claim people make.
What's so threatening about this supposed %5 of the marketplace that has people making up new laws of physics to explain how the pentium is faster, and outright lying about financial performance to claim apple is going under, etc?
Could it be that deep down, they know that we're right.
It must be annoying to have to deal with people who actually like their computers.
You gonna back up that slander about steve jobs?
Or is this just more anti-apple bigotry?
Its not enough that Microsoft has the vast majority of the desktop.
Its not enough that the macintosh has been derided for the past 20 years as a toy, as inferior, and as the machine that is more style than substance.
Its not enough that we had a good solid ten years of the tech media announcing that apple was going out of business- never mind that when they first started making that claim, apple had more sales revenue than Microsoft!
Its not enough that most half educated self-styled geeks think macs are slow.
Or that theirs a cult of mac hatred, mac bashing, and downright viciousness directed at anyone who dares to buy the computer that is not the one ordained by the powers that be as the be all, end all, "how dare you want something else".
Its not enough that despite better economics of mac software, we've had 20 years of idiot marketing types canceling mac products to focus on windows (And then losing to microsoft in the end.)
Its not enough that bigotry and hatred towards mac users is wide spread among computer enthusiasts- and is not only tolerated but encouraged.
No, none of these are enough.
Now we need to start comparing mac users to terrorists?
Its continually amazing how threatened so many people are that some segment of the population buys the computer that works best for them.
How can you be so threatened at people thinking for themselves? Oh yeah, that's right, this is a nation that worships conformity.
This is a sad state of affairs. And some of you should be ashamed of yourselves.
I find it interesting that you point to communes as "making communities work" when they have, by and large, been failures. The largest experiment in this way of "living" is the soviet union and we saw how they made it work-- brutal oppression.
In a free society such as the US (which, by the way, itself a far better example of a working community) such communes cannot impose brutal oppression on their members, and so when their delusions are exposed, they leave the commune, and eventually they fail.
Notice that the ones that still survive do so by embracing capitalism. If their members want to give up individuality and personal achievement for this lifestyle that they think is somehow better, more power too them.
But it certainly isn't an example of making "communities" work.
"Think globally, act locally" is another slogan along with "From each according to his ability to each according to his needs."
Invariably, those with ability leave. How long does anyone want to support someone who doesn't produce themselves, but claims rights to your product under the guise of some ideology?
because there's no way the CPU (Altivec or no Altivec) is going to crunch through the data fast enough.
Ha! That's funny. I'd like to see an example of a x86 encoding a DV stream to MP4 in real time.
This is commonplace on PowerPC machines, but I don't think its possible with any x86 on the market.
I was responding specifically to the claim that altivec is wasted because its starved for data. Since you (or whoever it was that made that claim) didn't specify what usage altivec was being put to where it was starved for data, I provided examples of the scenarios I know of where altivec is used.
With them memory busses in question, the altivec unit is not starved for data when ripping a CD or encoding DV into MP4 video.
In fact, in these cases the bottleneck is actually the device the raw data is being read off of.
So the claim that the altivec unit is wasted because of memory bottlenecks is silly-- the limiting factor when encoding DV video to MP4 is the hard drive, not the altivec unit.
Slashdot quoting Ars Technica, as if it were a source, is like third graders quoting comic book heros.
Except that third graders are expected to be at that level of maturity, while slashdot purports to be a society of engineers.
The average slashdot reader who's job is watching over a bunch of linux boxes to make sure they are doing their job, and who has no design responsibilities, can only program with scripting languages and doesn't understand basic processor architecture is not who we should turn to for analysis of the new IBM chip.
But that person would STILL Be more qualified than the average Ars Technica writer.
Ars Technica- The technical education of a 13 year old girl, the attitude of a 16 year old boy and the FUD orientation of Microsoft.
Let the FUD begin.
Can you provide some example of Apple using force to keep people from using GNUstep.
Is suspect that is a false statement.
(Remember, force has a specific meaning.)
Nice Dodge. Are you going to back up your assertion that the ALUs run at twice the clock speed, or not?
And are you going to reconcile this with your claim that there is only one clock on a CPU?
Naw, I figure you're ignore what you made obvious to all of us: You're an idiot.
But feel free to keep being patronizing. ITs amusing in a pathetic sort of way.
You contradict yourself, and then are patronizing about it!
You are a complete and total idiot.
As I have proven, clock speed means different things and different times.
And you keep repeating your stupid little myth that theres one clock on a CPU.
You're just an ignorant fuck who thinks he knows what he's talking about and that gives you the right to be insulting and patronizing.
Repeating the same falsehoods in bold letters doesn't make you look brilliant, fuckwad.
Go learn something, I'm done schooling you.
Stocks is gambling, pure and
simple.
I'll be sure to remind you of that when you're here lamenting how tough it is living on welfare.
Do you even have reasonable
expectations (and not pure hope) that things will
in fact turn to your favor?
Of course you do. Like buying Bonds, you should always know what you're return is going to be BEFORE you buy. And you can know this. \
Its a simple matter of math and rational investing.
The fact that many idiots think its gambling, only makes it easier to make money by being rational.
Warren Buffett turned his paper route money into 40 billion or so, making him the second richest man in the world-- just by investing his odd job money from when he was a kid.
You think Warren Buffett is a gambler? Then you're either an idiot or ignorant.
It is not BS. Yes, you can pick a local high and then pick a local low (in the beginning of WWII no less!) but hwen you look at 10 year peariods (Rather than picking specific dates) the trend does hold.
Most of the time, you end up much better off.
Most of the original dow stocks are not worthless. That's a stupid thing to say-- after all, when a company is past its prime it gets bought.
They live in on current dow members.
Sheesh. You lamented that you didn't think you'd be able to retire before 85.
I pointed out that this is a silly worry-- that it is really quite easy to retire early.
And it is. A bunch of whiners complaining about how things are tough now are just idiots, and of course I'm ignoring them.
Its really quite simple: Either you are wasting money and won't be able to retire before you're 85 as you claim, or you are being prudent and you can retire 10-15 years from now.
You set up the strawman by claiming you couldn't retire.
Its garbage- if you have an income, you can retire early, its simply mathematics.
And if you're in Generation X, , even if you got started late, you should still already have 5 years toward retirement.
I can understand not getting started on your retirement when you're 22, but by the time you're in your late 20s, you should be saving.
I do know enough about you-- you claim to be in Generation X, and you post to slashdot. Therefore you have at least some technical skills and are old enough to know better.
Stop whining and start investing.
Read the books I suggested.
Its really within your power-- the thing that determines whether you will be traveling the world, carefree or destitute at 85 is YOU.
Don't let a forbes article that managed to find some stupid slackers convince you that its not your responsibility and fault whether you retire early or never.
In fact the article supports my position- these people who got training in worthless careers, didn't bother to save any money while the economy was hot, are now whining because things are tough when the economy is cooled off? What pathetic losers! The economy cooling off has hurt me, but I've been able to coast thru because I was prepared for it. I didn't know it was coming, but I had already spent a couple years getting my cost of living down so that in any situation I can live cheaply- and save more when I'm employed, or have the freedom to develop my own business when I'm not.
I understand-- it too me about 8 years of denial before I took financial responbility of my own life, and it was quite amazing how quickly things turned once I did that.
Like I said before, the only things that will keep your from retiring early are laziness, attitude and ignorance. All of which are in your control.
Whatever the state of the economy or generation you were born into.
Be a man (or woman) and take responsibility for your own life, for gods sake.
Wow, thanks for pointing that out. I was joking, but I'm surprised to see that these things still go on.
That's so sad. I feel for the people being churned up and spit out by those organizations, and the decades of therapy they probably need afterwards.